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I did word my previous post poorly. I don't expect the launch on Lightning Rod to be an accelerated lift similar to Maverick's first launch or something with the speed of SkyRush's lift, but it still isn't a normal launch compared to something like Mr. Freeze. That is something I would like to see on an RMC coaster in the future and I'm sure that will come with time, whether it is a steel or wooden coaster.

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I think the lift-launch is more efficient at extracting energy from the lift motors. A horizontal launch results in more speed during the launch, but this is usually not maintained. L Rod is supposed to be the world's fastest wood coaster as it is. It's probably no accident that it is a more conventional wood coaster for RMC except for the launch, this makes it contrast maximally with other launched coasters.

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Also the newer B&Ms are far from "soft"

Really? Which ones? Of all the B&Ms I've been on in the last few years, the only one that really took me by surprise as being somewhat forceful was Banshee. And while that ride was REALLY good, it still was not as forceful as coasters B&M have done from 1992 - 2002.

 

True but we're not comparing to 1992-2002 - and going back to the full quote, they (B&M) only design what the park wants. That doesn't mean they are incapable of making "OMG FORCES11!!1" coasters.

 

True, but we're not comparing if they are incapable of making OMG FORCES.

 

Now, I realize why why so many people were perturbed with your attitude in the SDC thread.

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There's land being cleared in my neighborhood. It's a decent size, able to fit a T-Rex coaster. Next year is the 10th anniversary of my house being completed. My neighborhood hasn't received any coaster because other amusement parks keep stealing the new coaster. We were supposed to get an Intamin mega-lite back in 2007, but Cedar Point got Maverick instead.. All of these clues point to an RMC T-Rex.

 

EDIT: I see wood going up where the land was cleared. I guess we're getting an RMC woodie.

 

EDIT 2: It was just another house

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I just spent some valuable time cleaning up this thread. I haven't banned anyone--yet.

 

Please keep this conversation civil--no more childish insults (or egging others on).

 

Thank you.

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Definitely looking likely we are getting the first all-steel RMC.

 

That's a hell of a leap to make just because they demolished a mostly unused coaster station while they already had a crew in the park demolishing other unused and useless buildings.

 

 

I was thinking the same thing. Just because an unused building gets demolished doesn't instantly mean the park is getting a new coaster.

 

When has SF ever spent money to demo something in one of their parks just for the hell of it? Like um never!!! The RMC concept was shown in a SFGADv survey, RMC started the concept has be bought, RMC comes out with new coaster type and two parks SFGADv/SFMM starts quietly deconstruction of building that's been sitting around for years unused my bad if people around here can't add things up that's obvious

 

X/X2 and Revolution say hello from Magic Mountain. But I dont think random park construction means an RMC.

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I just spent some valuable time cleaning up this thread. I haven't banned anyone--yet.

 

Please keep this conversation civil--no more childish insults (or egging others on).

 

Thank you.

 

Chuck you beat me to it in this thread (as I was cleaning up posts in the SFMM thread), however I did ban issue a two week timeout.

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Sorry to break into the topic at hand, but Im just kind of curious about something... and I'm sure a few people might get their feelings hurt thinking I'm trashing the TREX track, but I'm not. I am VERY excited for the first TREX coaster for the fact that its by RMC, but can someone please answer me this: Why are so many people acting like this is a wild, new, never tried before style of track. Yes, the track is enclosed as a solid one piece track and spine, but its still technically using track/ rails like any other coaster that needs top, bottom, and side wheels... its just that instead of ties, its just using a larger spine with the track attached to it. For instance, someone asked if it would even be possible to do an inverted version with this style track... my question is, why wouldn't it!? I've also seen and heard people not only here but other sites as well saying and wondering if because this is a new style of track, would it be possible to see things never before seen on coasters... again, this is still the normal top, bottom, side wheel configuration, so it really isn't any different than any other style coaster....

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Sorry to break into the topic at hand, but Im just kind of curious about something... and I'm sure a few people might get their feelings hurt thinking I'm trashing the TREX track, but I'm not. I am VERY excited for the first TREX coaster for the fact that its by RMC, but can someone please answer me this: Why are so many people acting like this is a wild, new, never tried before style of track. Yes, the track is enclosed as a solid one piece track and spine, but its still technically using track/ rails like any other coaster that needs top, bottom, and side wheels... its just that instead of ties, its just using a larger spine with the track attached to it. For instance, someone asked if it would even be possible to do an inverted version with this style track... my question is, why wouldn't it!? I've also seen and heard people not only here but other sites as well saying and wondering if because this is a new style of track, would it be possible to see things never before seen on coasters... again, this is still the normal top, bottom, side wheel configuration, so it really isn't any different than any other style coaster....

 

The larger spine is spine is going to allow for less supports and allow RMC to probably do things that we don't typically see in hyper/giga coasters. I think the other thing that is going to differ it from other steel coasters is that the flat surface of the track is going to allow for the ride to remain smooth for a longer period of time. I don't have anything to back that last statement up other than it seems logical to me.

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^ I see where you're coming from on your logic about the smoothness... makes sense... only time will tell. But I still don't see how its going to affect it being easier to make never before seen elements... yes, you may see elements no one else has done before, but that just means no one has done it before but still could. Many other coaster companies developed elements no one had tried before, but then later the other companies did them too. IMO, its like taking any other coaster track that uses top, bottom, and outside side wheels and covering the ties with sheet metal between the tracks. Anyway, I'm not trying to start an argument, just trying to get some people to see that even though its a new style track, it really isn't at the same time. I think overall, its just more pleasant looking and that is all. Of course this is just my opinion and everyone else is entitled to theirs too.

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As you said parkjunkie, the T-REX track won't be able to do much more than a traditional coaster when it comes to a layout and its elements.

The benefits are real, however, when it comes to the construction process and especially the fact that you drop the pipe bending process, which is very tedious and tend to cause a significant fatigue in the material of the pipe. Source: Coaster 101 by Nick Weisenberger.

 

Basically, T-REX track equals:

- Greater support span -> reduced cost, as footers are expensive.

- Smoother ride -> Shaping a flat surface is easier than shaping a steel tube.

- Longer durability in time

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As you said parkjunkie, the T-REX track won't be able to do much more than a traditional coaster when it comes to a layout and its elements.

The benefits are real, however, when it comes to the construction process and especially the fact that you drop the pipe bending process, which is very tedious and tend to cause a significant fatigue in the material of the pipe. Source: Coaster 101 by Nick Weisenberger.

 

Basically, T-REX track equals:

- Greater support span -> reduced cost, as footers are expensive.

- Smoother ride -> Shaping a flat surface is easier than shaping a steel tube.

- Longer durability in time

 

No, i know that and get all that, Im just curious why so many people act like this coaster type is going to do things never seen or heard of before with elements

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^ People would have said "slow-down" if they knew the park was getting the world's tallest coaster and the best wooden coaster in the world in back to back years. Yes, I know they went bankrupt but the Joker isn't exactly an expensive coaster. Another coaster next year could happen.

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As you said parkjunkie, the T-REX track won't be able to do much more than a traditional coaster when it comes to a layout and its elements.

The benefits are real, however, when it comes to the construction process and especially the fact that you drop the pipe bending process, which is very tedious and tend to cause a significant fatigue in the material of the pipe. Source: Coaster 101 by Nick Weisenberger.

 

Basically, T-REX track equals:

- Greater support span -> reduced cost, as footers are expensive.

- Smoother ride -> Shaping a flat surface is easier than shaping a steel tube.

- Longer durability in time

 

No, i know that and get all that, Im just curious why so many people act like this coaster type is going to do things never seen or heard of before with elements

 

It's because RMC is building these rides rather than a different coaster company. We've seen what they can do with wooden coasters. They've already introduced the 180 degree stall and the 200 degree stall, among other never before seen elements, so because the T-REX track can withstand greater forces than their wooden designs, I'd expect to see some crazy stuff out of these coasters.

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