mike541x Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I really hope we'll see one at a park one day, that looks wicked! Oh yeah I also have that same "thrill seeker's guide" book. Great read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 This looks great. Personally I hate X2 but love the concept of X2 (if that makes any sense). It's too jerky to be enjoyable which is a shame because it's such a great idea. I've been hoping for a similar concept to X2 with better execution for a long time and I'm really excited to see that we might finally have it in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 This looks great. Personally I hate X2 but love the concept of X2 (if that makes any sense). It's too jerky to be enjoyable which is a shame because it's such a great idea. This is EXACTLY my thought as well. I really like the idea behind the ride, and honestly, when X or X2 first opened and it ran smooth, it was incredible! But over time as they got rougher, I liked them much less. I'm hoping the use of RMC I-Box track and the free spinning instead of the more jerky controlled spinning motion will make this ride much more enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoot12 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Nice get, Alveys! I have yet to ride a 4D of any kind. I'm glad to see they're still improving on the technology. I wonder if the B&M wing rider coasters had implemented such a feature they'd be more well received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I wonder if the B&M wing rider coasters had implemented such a feature You mean "fun?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'm looking forward to seeing what sort of extended layout they can use with these trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 With something like this, you wouldn't need something massive. A 2500' long version would still be incredible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singemfrc Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Imagine if Intamin or B&M ask you to come over to their factory..... Based on their IAAPA interviews, I doubt that B&M would dare, but I think this is great advertising for S&S and I wouldn't be surprised if other companies let Robb show off their prototype to help get the word out to parks about what they're pitching. I really hope it's successful for S&S, I would love to see these get built, or even another classic 4D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeFaller Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It looks absolutely amazing! Hopefully, many parks will build them! Would be really great! Do you guys know how much a coaster of that type would cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperShawn Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Great to see thorough coverage of all the great stuff S&S is working on. I really hope a park picks one of these up at some point. I'm one of the people that love X2, so an improved free spin 4D coaster just screams fun and ideal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scbt Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Wow, looks like a lot of fun. How does this compare to the intamin zacspins seeing as they are pretty much the same concept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCjunkie Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Wow, very cool to see a prototype in action like this. Thanks for sharing video footage and pictures of the ride and the S&S shop, TPR comes through again. But now that I have seen a coaster operate in 18 degrees with people having fun on it there is NO reason CF cannot open VF on weekends in the winter. Fire up Renegade, Steel Venom and Wild Thing pronto! We have jackets, hats, gloves and were hearty people who are used to the cold and could handle it. Dear Mr. Quimet...... I am writing you today about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisco Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Kristen is pretty awesome. I know a lot of adults who will not ride a coaster with inversions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Wow, looks like a lot of fun. How does this compare to the intamin zacspins seeing as they are pretty much the same concept? They are similar that the seats spin freely, but the use of those dampers to help give the car a "push" so to speak to help it spin more is quite unique. And also the seats, assuming they would use the same in the production model, were VERY comfortable. The spinning motion seemed much more fluid and smooth than the Zacspin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'm looking forward to seeing what sort of extended layout they can use with these trains. My money is on a European park purchasing 1 first. Looks like a great concept. Thanks for the video and report Robb/Elissa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piedude81 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It looks absolutely amazing! Hopefully, many parks will build them! Would be really great! Do you guys know how much a coaster of that type would cost? This was my first question upon seeing the post. I agree with Robb that this would be an AMAZING addition to any park, but if it's pricey, chains such as Cedar Fair and Six Flags might be weary of purchasing these for anything but their flagship parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatdan Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 ^ Because the spinning motion isn't as "jerky", it didn't seem to have any affect on your legs. I mean, watch the video and you can see how smooth it is on the body. I was watching the video for the question - the reason I asked was specifically with some of the spinning you see at :32 and just beyond that - Your legs in particular aren't moving, but it looks like the transitions between forward and backwards are still relatively sudden. Hearing that it doesn't feel like it's jerky, well, that sounds great. I always like the dramatic way the 4D coasters could position you, and while I think this is cool I don't think it will be quite as amazingly dramatic as how those control your exact movement. However, if it isn't soul-crushingly painful to ride, I think that until they figure out a way to perfect that system, this is the better overall ride. Very cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 ^I think it will be a much different experience and one that is MUCH cheaper to manufacture. This looks awesome. Thanks for sharing this, like everyone else I'm jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoot12 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I wonder if the B&M wing rider coasters had implemented such a feature You mean "fun?" I take it this short little proto provided more of a satisfying ride than the wing riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rctneil Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I love the fact they have taken the core idea of their current 4d's (rotating seats) and have totally simplified it. Removing all the clutter and by having free spinning seats rather than controlled rotating they provide a new experience. I doubt these will replace the current 4d's as I guess both rides will produce different experiences but if they can add partial control of the spinning via the dampers then they are onto a winner. If a future model is able to increase and decrease the intensity based on a group of riders preferences on a cycle by cycle basis then parks can have a ride that anyone can ride and it can provide totally different experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yay101 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I can see an indoor park getting one of these! That was the first thing I thought when I saw this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I wonder if the B&M wing rider coasters had implemented such a feature You mean "fun?" I take it this short little proto provided more of a satisfying ride than the wing riders. Being pulled up to the top platform was more thrilling than any wing rider I've been on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XtremeRollerCoasters Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Looks like a unique, fun ride, I hope a park near me gets one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singemfrc Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I can see an indoor park getting one of these! That was the first thing I thought when I saw this! Remember this was just a prototype, a small piece of track section used to show proof of concept, a production model would be huge. With those large cars and I-box track I would think this coaster would be massive in size. I love that this actually looks like more fun than a classic 4D coaster, yet will surely cost significantly less to build and maintain due to the simplified mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talonec Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 You had a coaster lover's dream day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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