GigaG Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 What are the worst "neuters" on rides? Mean Streak - Take an already somewhat boring (with just some potential) ride and trim it to death. That's Mean Streak for you. Green Lantern (SFMM) - Apparently, its Swedish cousin spins more or at least used to (Insane might have gotten neutered too). Its also loaded so it doesn't spin. Still a fairly fun ride, but also fairly painful. According to the ride op, the reason that the cars are loaded in a balanced way is that if the vehicle comes in upside down or sideways and can't be rotated, maintenance must be called. That reeks of bull feces to me. You're saying that Intamin's systems to right the car (it DOES have a system for that, right?) plus ride ops that can spin it can't work? Colossus (SFMM) - After what I believe was an ejection incident a long time ago ago, this ride got airtime hills replaced by a block brake. Not like that block brake is needed - since when does Colossus ever run 3 trains? I never saw it running more than 2 while I was there, and I am not sure if they even have 3 of the same colored train! I'd take a seatbelt on this for a more intense ride - its a fairly smooth woodie for its age, but it is just boring. Any others that you can think of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screaminkid2005 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 One off the top of my head is Batman & Robin: The Chiller getting its rolls taken away before getting taken down all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djboss302 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The trim brake on Raging Bull's first "airtime" hill. Never underestimate the power of the whiny GP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotanicalStig Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The trims on Magnum ruin the ending IMO. This one didn't ruin the ride, but the removal of this was a good "neuter" nonetheless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigaG Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 The trim brake on Raging Bull's first "airtime" hill. Never underestimate the power of the whiny GP. Do you have any evidence that whiny GP got the ride trimmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOGdude25 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Pretty much every Dinn/Summers woodie ever made haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I was trying to think of a coaster, but all I could think of was how slow most bumper cars are now. My "home" park used to have one's that ran like Skooters at Knoebels, but now Knoebels is the only place that I can think of that still runs them at a higher speed. I would also have to say almost any flat in the US when compared to the one's at the German fairs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singemfrc Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 What are the worst "neuters" on rides? Mean Streak - Take an already somewhat boring (with just some potential) ride and trim it to death. That's Mean Streak for you. Green Lantern (SFMM) - Apparently, its Swedish cousin spins more or at least used to (Insane might have gotten neutered too). Its also loaded so it doesn't spin. Still a fairly fun ride, but also fairly painful. According to the ride op, the reason that the cars are loaded in a balanced way is that if the vehicle comes in upside down or sideways and can't be rotated, maintenance must be called. That reeks of bull feces to me. You're saying that Intamin's systems to right the car (it DOES have a system for that, right?) plus ride ops that can spin it can't work? Colossus (SFMM) - After what I believe was an ejection incident a long time ago ago, this ride got airtime hills replaced by a block brake. Not like that block brake is needed - since when does Colossus ever run 3 trains? I never saw it running more than 2 while I was there, and I am not sure if they even have 3 of the same colored train! I'd take a seatbelt on this for a more intense ride - its a fairly smooth woodie for its age, but it is just boring. Any others that you can think of? I know thats not true about Maintenance having to be called when a car comes in upside down. I've been on upside down cars coming into the station and though it sometimes take a minute, the ops can right you. Besides, even loaded the way it is, right before the station is the one place it almost always flips. Its the drops before the last one where the balancing takes away the flips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoshiFan Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The trim brake at the bunny hills on Thunderhawk at Dorney. You used to get some decent air time on those hills now you barely get lifted out your seat. I'm not sure if it counts or not but seatbelts being added to all coasters in Ocean City, NJ after the Wild Wonder accident in 1999. Before that accident, the Schwarzkopf City Jet at Gillian's, Miler Mouse and Fliter and Playland all ran without any kind of restraints at all and it was cool to be riding a coaster with no restraint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The trim brake at the bunny hills on Thunderhawk at Dorney. You used to get some decent air time on those hills now you barely get lifted out your seat. That's really a good example. When I went to Dorney last summer I got two rides on Thunderhawk. The first one the trim did nothing and I got some great air, on the second ride it kicked in and made a huge difference as I got nothing. I don't know if this had an influence but on my first ride there was only one train running and then they added the second one. Is this the reason why the trim was deployed the second time? Anyway, it made me rank the ride a lot lower than I would have if there were no trim as that ending was definitely the best part on my first ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The trims on Raging Bull and right before the bunny hills on California Screamin' are a bit of a bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Reconstructed first drop on the SFNE Cyclone. Used to be the most insane start to a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPmillenia94 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 ^that and the trim brakes mid ride. Still a very decent coaster though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoshiFan Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 That's really a good example. When I went to Dorney last summer I got two rides on Thunderhawk. The first one the trim did nothing and I got some great air, on the second ride it kicked in and made a huge difference as I got nothing. I don't know if this had an influence but on my first ride there was only one train running and then they added the second one. Is this the reason why the trim was deployed the second time? Anyway, it made me rank the ride a lot lower than I would have if there were no trim as that ending was definitely the best part on my first ride. I don't think the number of trains running usually matters since it almost always runs 1 train and the trim is on most of the time. Sometimes the weather is really cold then will turn the trim off, otherwise it just seems random and once in a while you can ride the coaster with the trim off in normal weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaGuy Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The original Rattler from 1992. Lowered first drop from the top and raised from the bottom. Trim into and out of the helix added. Fan Curve after first drop lowered and altered over the years...... Thank god for RMC bringing this coaster back to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajfelice Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) I know that The Beast has been trimmed since day one, but just imagine if some of those trims were removed? I could only imagine how much more amazing an already amazing ride can be. From the few reports I have seen shortly after construction from some of the contractors/park employees from KI indicate an absolutely insane coaster before the trims were added in time for the ride's opening. Edited January 2, 2014 by ajfelice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The trim brake at the bunny hills on Thunderhawk at Dorney. You used to get some decent air time on those hills now you barely get lifted out your seat. I thought of this coaster immediately. The trim in the bunny hills is awful and they have a few throughout the course of the ride that really take away from any potential airtime (they have one at the top of the turnaround by Revolution that can kick on really hard sometimes). Thunderhawk has gotten rough lately but if they removed the trims and did some re-tracking this would easily be the best ride in the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I know that The Beast has been trimmed since day one, but just imagine if some of those trims were removed? I could only imagine how much more amazing an already amazing ride can be. From the few reports I have seen shortly after construction from some of the contractors/park employees from KI indicate an absolutely insane coaster before the trims were added in time for the ride's opening. Even The Beast from the early 90's is so much better than most coasters today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screaminkid2005 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 What are the worst "neuters" on rides? Mean Streak - Take an already somewhat boring (with just some potential) ride and trim it to death. That's Mean Streak for you. Green Lantern (SFMM) - Apparently, its Swedish cousin spins more or at least used to (Insane might have gotten neutered too). Its also loaded so it doesn't spin. Still a fairly fun ride, but also fairly painful. According to the ride op, the reason that the cars are loaded in a balanced way is that if the vehicle comes in upside down or sideways and can't be rotated, maintenance must be called. That reeks of bull feces to me. You're saying that Intamin's systems to right the car (it DOES have a system for that, right?) plus ride ops that can spin it can't work? Colossus (SFMM) - After what I believe was an ejection incident a long time ago ago, this ride got airtime hills replaced by a block brake. Not like that block brake is needed - since when does Colossus ever run 3 trains? I never saw it running more than 2 while I was there, and I am not sure if they even have 3 of the same colored train! I'd take a seatbelt on this for a more intense ride - its a fairly smooth woodie for its age, but it is just boring. Any others that you can think of? I know thats not true about Maintenance having to be called when a car comes in upside down. I've been on upside down cars coming into the station and though it sometimes take a minute, the ops can right you. Besides, even loaded the way it is, right before the station is the one place it almost always flips. Its the drops before the last one where the balancing takes away the flips. Maybe things have changed on it over time? I remember when I went to west coast bash in 2012 and they had to call Maint. for that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysairtime14 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Trims on wild mouse coasters. Rye playland's mouse isn't trimmed (they haven't worked/been turned on in years). My dad was sore for weeks, but my friends and I LOVED it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronWolfman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The only irritating "neuters" I've experienced have been the trims on Twister 2, American Eagle, and Cyclone (SFNE). Wish the respective parks would remove these trims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&MBoy1982 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I know that The Beast has been trimmed since day one, but just imagine if some of those trims were removed? I could only imagine how much more amazing an already amazing ride can be. From the few reports I have seen shortly after construction from some of the contractors/park employees from KI indicate an absolutely insane coaster before the trims were added in time for the ride's opening. Even The Beast from the early 90's is so much better than most coasters today. Since I have started regularly going to KI in 2005, I believe The Beast has given the best rides in 2013. It was amazing this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanM64 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'm going to go with Raging Bull, Mean Streak, and American Eagle. That trim on Raging Bull's camelback just destroys the entire rest of the ride. I can't think of any trim in the world I want removed more than that one. It's not like the ride is rough!! It has a bit of rattle, but nothing that warrants having a trim, let alone one that heavy. Mean Streak really ran pretty well this season. The trim on the first drop should really be turned off at this point. It really doesn't jackhammer nearly as much as it used to, so there's not really a reason for the trim anymore. American Eagle. It rode so rough this year I totally get why it's trimmed to death before the big and final helixes. Eagle is an ok coaster when it's smooth and not trimmed. It was way too rough this season. It needs a retrack in spots, then the trims can be turned off and it will be decent again. With the trims it's just boring. Combine that with the roughness and you have one crappy cpaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunder Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Agree on Magnum XL-200 is a shadow of it's former self since they changed the braking at the turn-around. Also agree on Raging Bull is more Mildly Flustered Bull with those trims, as if the B & M hyper experience wasn't calming enough. Apollo's Chariot was also a bit of a mild one in 2008 when I last rode it. Tower of Terror II at Dreamworld was supposed to a radical re-invention of the original, but it only goes half way up the tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Farmer Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The trim brake on Raging Bull's first "airtime" hill. Never underestimate the power of the whiny GP. Do you have any evidence that whiny GP got the ride trimmed? I think that trim brake has been there since day 1. I agree though, after it does it's thing, the ride is more evocative of a dairy cow than a raging bull. Luckily, the first drop is one of the best you'll find anywhere- anything after that (good or bad) is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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