KingRCT3 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 ^ Oh my mistake! I wish more credits would be given toward ride designers, just like you know the director of a movie. I also feel the Alan Schilke vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 ^ Actually, it is. S&S and US Thrill Rides are teaming together on this. I'm assuming Ride Centerline is involved as well. It looks like an Alan Schilke design. Maybe somebody can confirm this? I haven't been following this project that closely. http://www.engineeringexcitement.com/product/polercoaster/ Edit: I had to sit through and watch a video filled with pointlessness from another website at IAAPA last year and a guy from US Thrill Rides confirmed that Alan Schilke and Ride Centerline are the designers of the coaster. So the way I'm looking at it, US Thrill Rides is behind the design, engineering and buliding of the tower, S&S is manufacturing the track, trains. and supports, and Ride Centerline is designing the actual coaster. Does that sound about right? You are correct. Alan is the sole reason I'm excited for this project...if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rctneil Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I have to say that the concept video looks amazing. The coaster layout is superb. So glad it doesn't just wrap around the tower as a super tall helix spiral. I just have this doubting feeling in the back of my mind thinking this won't get built but I hope along with everyone else that it does and is an outstanding success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightypotato Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but I won't believe this project is actually happening until I start seeing vertical construction. I've been skeptical since the start, but would love to be proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwaziBSRider1 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 ^ Me, too. As cool as it looks, it seems a little too farfetched. If it's built, 2017 is going to be a great year to visit Orlando. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cullvion Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 This looks ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE! I'll probably be one of the only people in my family who will ride this, but it'll be worth it when it opens!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Saw the Skyscraper Roller Coaster people today at another I-Drive Announcement. This time for the worlds tallest StarFlyer! 420'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Now Alan Schilke getting involved=incredible ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 After seeing the rendering of this ride, this could either be seriously awesome or seriously painful. Hoping for the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Now Alan Schilke getting involved=incredible ride His involvement does make it more intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 So according to the interview Robb did this ride will have a cable lift which will take a minute and a half to climb. So I'm wondering if the ride will be able to have more than one train on the lift as I imagine that having to wait that much between dispatches (and given the size of the trains) would make capacity rather poor. And, apparently, it will also have the world's steepest drop at 123 DEGREES!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) ^ I bet it will be able to carry more than one train on the lift hill. I don't think cable lift equal "Intamin's cable lift", that just means it will uses a cable, but then you can fix a bunch of catch car if you want. Otherwise I edited the footage and made the most seamlessly POV I could. I pointed out the MCBRs, too. Hope that's more clear now! Edited November 20, 2014 by KingRCT3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoGuy Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 So according to the interview Robb did this ride will have a cable lift which will take a minute and a half to climb. So I'm wondering if the ride will be able to have more than one train on the lift as I imagine that having to wait that much between dispatches (and given the size of the trains) would make capacity rather poor. And, apparently, it will also have the world's steepest drop at 123 DEGREES!! I knew it was only a matter of time before someone started complaining about this... The amount of people riding will be too small for the capacity being low to really make a difference. It's not going in Universal, it's going to be on the side of I Drive. They could even book reservations for it (kinda like Fastpass). Either way, pay-per-ride experiences don't typically attract the long lines that major attractions in pay-one-price theme parks do. EDIT: I can see lines getting long if they do not implement some sort of "come-back-later" ticket system. BUT, with it presumably being an all-day attraction and the fact that it will probably draw from a sizeable local market who will avoid it it until the tourists are gone, I think it's safe to say that capacity won't be a HUGE issue. It's not like a ride in a theme park, where you have to go on it the one day your admission is valid only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 ^Hey I wasn't complaining. It's just that usually, rides with trains of this size dispatch them fairly quickly (also because they're faster to unload, load and check) while 1:30 min would be more of a B&M with 32 seat-trains, for instance. ^^Thanks for the POV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 The time between two MCBR is approximately 20 seconds, so the dispatch time will be under 30 seconds I guess, which is pretty decent. That leads to 960pph with 30 seconds, up to 1440pph within 20 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwhee Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Now the big question is... Will this actually be built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrbuzz Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Well the Orlando eye took a few years from announcement to construction. So I wouldn't be so pessimistic just yet. Let's see what the next year or so bring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 King, thank you for piecing together the POV, makes more sense to me now. I am extremely excited to get more details on Skyscraper. I typically stay in hotels on I-Drive so this will be great, hopefully there will be an unlimited ride option as this doesn't appear something I want to ride only once and then walk away. The reverse banked turns and bunny hills are really neat looking, and seem to becoming a new trend for 2015. (Wicked Cyclone sports a nice one) For the one who wondered if it would be painful to ride... I imagine it will feel very similar to the El Loco coaster design from S&S, which I have not heard any complaints of pain or roughness. (I have yet to have the pleasure of riding one myself living in the Northeast US) With such a large investment coming up, I trust the engineers to create a smooth, enjoyable ride, looking forward to seeing construction whenever that might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 ^ I bet it will be able to carry more than one train on the lift hill. I don't think cable lift equal "Intamin's cable lift", that just means it will uses a cable, but then you can fix a bunch of catch car if you want. Otherwise I edited the footage and made the most seamlessly POV I could. I pointed out the MCBRs, too. Hope that's more clear now! Thanks for doing this! Definitely provides a better idea of what the ride experience will be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Bishop Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I think it'll get built but I question the financial feasibility of it. I figure that, just how people are and things go: - the cost to build it was low-balled - there were be unexpected issues when they actually get to building it - there will be cost overruns in building it - they're figuring "best case scenario" for what they're going to charge and people lining up to pay it. For operations it's a massive structure that must be maintained. So, can you get enough pph paying some huge ticket fee required to pay for and maintain this coaster? I don't think you can. If they put a normal coaster in the same spot I think it'd be tough business because there are so many other attractions around. The audience isn't your average person but your die-hard coaster fan and thrill seekers willing to pay big bucks to ride. There's also the question of there being, I think, a likely bump in attendance when it first starts up and I'm guessing that will wane after a short while (like 6mo - 1yr). From growing up in a beach/tourist community I've seen my fair share of similar giant contraptions built and later abandoned (and eyesores) shortly after. Make no mistake, I don't wish this upon the investors. I hope they have a thriving business! I'm just saying it looks incredibly risky/likely to fail to me. No matter how you slice it, you have to have enough cash coming in from each person riding it to not only pay for it all (being built and ongoing maintenance) but also to generate a profit. That number per head seems like it'd have to be really big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoGuy Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 ^the difference between this and some gimmicky beach town attraction is that the market going to a beach destination is not the same as the market going to Orlando. People go to Orlando to ride rides (well, and shop, but this complex has that covered as well). The expectation going there is that there will be thrill rides. The PollerCoaster is taking that market but instead of oversaturating it, filling a gap (a high-thrill extreme coaster) that was previously there. If theres one thing to doubt I dont believe its the financial stability of it, but rather how it will get funded if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlahBlahson Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Can we do a Kickstarter? I'll throw in 200 dollars for a lifetime ride pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COASTER FREAK 11 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Also, keep in mind the tower holds more then just the coaster. It also has the space up top that will help generate revenue. Plus all the other shopping and dining. This isn't some coaster in the middle of a field, its part of a whole complex that will generate money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totopez Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I don't know if the ticket price has been discussed, but how much would you be willing to pay for a ride? Personally, I could pay $40-50 if it included FOTL. Or $80-100 for a combination of the coaster, the starflyer and the Eye. If I would have to wait in line, $20 for the coaster seems fair. I would see this as a once in a lifetime experience, and be willing to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 $20.00??? How much are the coasters in Las Vegas? I think $20.00 is kinda steep compared to the other attractions in the area...but i may be mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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