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Rode Calico River Rapids today and it was pretty good. I will give a lot of props to the queue as they did a real nice job building the new “show” house and incorporating the ride experience into it. Some fans are criticizing this but literally the way it’s laid out there was no choice. As for the ride, the theming is great but you’re on a rapids ride, no one is looking at anything except the next possible rapid that may soak them. It really takes away from the amazing job Knotts and Garner Holt did. I paid close attention on the three rides I took to see if anyone looked at the theming, and not one person did. Which is an absolute shame. GP aside, the update is amazing in every way. The TNT portion is gold, I found myself just standing there for a long time enjoying it all. The riders and the TNTer’s were both having a great time. And yes Bigfoot is way better in person!!! My only question is why aren’t the waterfalls working??? And why haven’t they for a long time now?

 

Overall: 8.5/10

 

Bigfoot Rapids: 3/10

 

I asked that very question during one of the West Coast Bash Q/A's and was told that they were having problems with people trying to "move" out of the way of the waterfalls and it was a Safety Issue as Guests were trying to stand up...

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On Saturday 9/26/20, Theme Park Review was invited to experience the Knott's Taste of Fall-o-ween event, the next in a wonderfully endless string of events at Knott’s Berry Farm.   The event runs F

Almost two weeks later and we know this was all bull.  Apparently he's going to be "speaking with theme parks" sometime this week, but I'm not expecting anything special.

The rumor was they also wanted the county to be in the "yellow category"  OC is still far away. Source for below: https://covid19.ca.gov/safer-economy/

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Went to this park on Tuesday, was planning to see how crowded it was before buying a fast lane but it was slammed with ghost rider at 2 hours pretty much all day so I'm really glad we ended up getting one. Well worth the money and got a ton of rides in that we wouldn't have been able to do otherwise.

 

We really enjoyed this park and it's got a solid lineup of fun rides. Ghost rider was an absolute blast, just wish I could have gotten some night rides in but the park closed at 8pm. It looked awesome with the orange lights at night.

 

Hangtime was awesome. Calico River Rapids was fantastic and I was surpised by the level of the theming, we rode it a bunch of times and the animatronics were great. We got wet but not soaked and honestly that's the perfect combo for me when we aren't in a water park.

 

Pony Express was the first time I've been on a ride like that and while I enjoyed it I'm glad we had fast lane because I wouldn't have waited on the lines it had because it was just too short of a ride. It made me really look forward to riding Tron when that opens at Magic Kingdom though.

 

The 3d shooting game Voyage to the Iron Reef was a great surprise, we never expected it to be that good. I wish more Cedar Fair Parks had these types of rides over the awful plants vs zombies and the just ok Boo Blasters. The actual game play and video was way better than Justice League as well.

 

The log flume ride was great but I don't know if it was just our log or what but there was so much water inside of it that we had to keep our feet up on the inside bars because they would have been submerged in water if we didn't. We didn't even get very wet from the ride either. Also this ride wasn't part of fast lane even though the map says it is so we waited till the end of the day and hoped on line and waited 5 mins to get on. It had a really long line the rest of the day.

 

Overall an excellent experience at the park and would definitely stop by again if I was in the area.

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Went to the park tonight for a few hours mainly to people watch and wander around. Figured it'd be too busy to ride anything (it was), and most of the rides had hideous lines.

 

Tried the Ghost Rider single-rider line for the first time though. It should work in theory, but they'd need multiple groupers for it to function well. The group of four in front of us (two adults and two young kids) waited in the single-rider line then, when placed into the line that runs parallel to the main queue, jumped the railing — basically single-rider right up to the station, then the regular line from that point on so they could ride together. They got caught but the grouper was so slammed trying to get the rest of the crowd to follow instructions that he ended up just letting them through. Anyhow, my guess is that the regular line was probably close to 90 minutes, and the single-rider line ended up taking 40 minutes for about 20 single riders.

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Dropped by the park for a couple of hours today. It was mobbed with most rides running 60-odd minute waits. Ghost Rider was showing 110 minutes on the usual queue apps, but I can’t imagine it was actually that long. Operations have been really solid on it lately with a ton of staff in the station. They also seem to have fixed that final brake run issue (meaning they’ve turned half the brakes off) and the train is flying through the course these days. It’s hitting the mid-course turnaround as fast as ever and yet none of the roughness has returned.

 

Anyhow, the single rider line was open for a few hours today and nobody was in it. I got straight on five times in a row for a sweet little marathon. Returned at 5pm for more rides, but single rider had shut down. Xcelerator had a gnarly-looking line, as did Hang Time. Silver Bullet was closed, so I rode Supreme Scream a few times then bailed. (Supreme Scream is a bit like a Windseeker to me — more relaxing than scary). Also, a quick hats-off to ride ops and industry workers everywhere as I swear it must take Herculean effort to put up with some of the GP’s antics during the summertime!

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stopped by Knott's earlier to pickup the free button they are giving away today. also, ended up buying a 50th anniversary log ride t-shirt and magnet. a few pictures...

 

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It'd be great if that particular shirt is still available when we're there, early September.

 

Definite souvenir shirt to buy on this visit to Knott's (I have Ghost Town's 75th Anny shirt).

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Two bought there actually, besides getting Knott's West Coast Bash t-shirt in 2016.

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This is the old folk song we used to sing while we were building' the log ride:

 

I got my first real construction job

Got it at the Knotts Berry Farm

Worked it 'til my fingers bled

Was the summer of sixty-nine

 

Me and some guys from school

Worked together and we tried real hard

Jimmy quit, Jody got married

I should've known we'd never get far

 

Oh, when I look back now

That summer seemed to last forever

And if I had the choice

Yeah, I'd always wanna be there

Those were the best days of my life

 

Oh, yeah

Back in the summer of sixty-nine, oh

We were building that log ride in sixty-nine

Yeah

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Anyone interested in a discounted Knott's Berry Farm Hotel room on the night of Saturday, 8/17/19?

 

I had set up a group rate at the hotel for the nights of 8/16 and 8/17 for my wedding, but most of my friends and family decided to only stay Friday night and I still have a bunch of openings for Saturday. Unfortunately, I've already signed a contract for both those nights and will be penalized if I don't fill the rooms for both nights. So if you're looking for a Saturday night getaway at Knott's, this is the perfect opportunity to go cheap!

 

The rates are $139 (incl. parking) for a standard room (2 double beds OR 1 king bed) and $189 (incl. parking) for an oversized room. The normal rates for those rooms are $179 and $239 + parking, respectively. There are 10 rooms that need to be filled.

 

To get these rates, call the hotel at 714-995-1111 and book under "Joe's and Iona's Wedding".

 

The deadline to book is this Tuesday, 7/23/19, at 4pm.

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Going to CA in Early Sept, what are the crowds like at KBF on a weekday vs weekend?

Is there any capacity difference on a weekday? Ive heard SFMM despite being much less crowded, has such slow/1 train ops its more worth going a weekend.... any issue like that here?

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Going to CA in Early Sept, what are the crowds like at KBF on a weekday vs weekend?

Is there any capacity difference on a weekday? Ive heard SFMM despite being much less crowded, has such slow/1 train ops its more worth going a weekend.... any issue like that here?

 

Weekdays in September are a great time to visit since it is after school starts again but before Haunt. Weekends during this time are OK too, but of course the weekdays will always be less crowded.

 

Operations should be fine. GhostRider, HangTime, and Silver Bullet all have a third train that gets cycled through maintenance, so they almost always run two trains - even on the most dead days in the middle of February. Even Sierra Sidewinder and Pony Express are quite rarely on single train operations. In September you should be just fine.

 

Xcelerator on the other hand is a whole different story. It has been running one train for almost a year now I believe and the other is still in pieces next to the brake run. There is a chance the second train could be reassembled by then, but I would expect one train operations on Xcelerator. The difference between one and two trains on that ride is quite minimal anyway in terms of capacity. Just make it your second ride (after GhostRider) and there won't be a line. It takes a couple hours for crowds to spread back to the Boardwalk.

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^ I agree it's important to get to Xcelerator after GhostRider. While GhostRider has the worst wait in the park by far, Xcelerator's queue for the front row starts pretty far back so it's always packed if you want the best seat.

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Going to CA in Early Sept, what are the crowds like at KBF on a weekday vs weekend?

Is there any capacity difference on a weekday? Ive heard SFMM despite being much less crowded, has such slow/1 train ops its more worth going a weekend.... any issue like that here?

 

 

it's not showing right now, which is good, but, often ghostrider goes down right after labor day. so hopefully, they changed it this year and it's staying open. pretty sure they would have had it posted already.

 

i'd definitely do both parks on weekdays. sfmm can bust out one train ops anytime. doesn't matter how crowded or not it is. but weekdays after labor day are dead.

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^ I agree it's important to get to Xcelerator after GhostRider. While GhostRider has the worst wait in the park by far, Xcelerator's queue for the front row starts pretty far back so it's always packed if you want the best seat.

 

Also, for what it's worth, I would disagree and say Xcelerator has the worst line in the park. Both lines move slowly, but GhostRider's actually seems to be getting a bit better. The last few times I've visited this summer they have had a grouper and fill up almost every single seat on the train each dispatch. They also have seem to cut down on the disability skip-the-lines (I really think it was being abused) and they often dispatch before the other train stacks, or very shortly after. Almost the entire queue is indoors as well and out of the sun. I have waited in the line countless times and would say an entirely full building (both levels) with two train operation is about 70-90 minutes. And if you visit on a weekend or fairly busy day, the single rider line is usually open.

 

Xcelerator on the other hand is all outside, inches along very slowly since they dispatch roughly every 5 minutes. Several empty seats also go empty every dispatch since the loading gates are per car, not per row. And the front row line is miserable if it's any longer than outside the station. Since the front row has it's own line, that also means only a maximum of 16 people can load per dispatch, but we all know this isn't true. They also have one of the seats in the back car closed off for whatever reason (this could totally change by September though).

 

To summarize: GhostRider's capacity is still below average, but the line is shaded and moves at a steady pace. Xcelerator's just flat out sucks. I still recommend doing GhostRider first though, that way you can get short lines on both coasters.

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Thanks all. As always the tips and info are priceless.

Sadly the time slot is non negotiable so yeah I hope Ghostrider stays open. That's one of the rides I'm more excited about.

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Also, for what it's worth, I would disagree and say Xcelerator has the worst line in the park. Both lines move slowly, but GhostRider's actually seems to be getting a bit better.

I'm apt to agree. I've been to the park a few times this summer (the time of year where I usually avoid the parks) and today was my last visit for a little while (probably until Halloween). Ghost Rider operations are as good as they can be right now. They're using a grouper, which means you sit where you're placed, but with two trains and a full station of staff, they're hammering through the line at a respectable pace. The single rider line, albeit inconsistent depending on the grouper, is fantastic overall. I got three back-to-back rides in today with ease. The ride's just hitting the "rough around the edges" point right now, but it's still running brilliantly. It's basically peak Ghost Rider. Xcelerator, on the other hand, is struggling a bit. On slower days, it's often a station wait. Now, though, not so much. Today, it was about 30 minutes — which isn't bad considering that they're running one train with a few busted seats. The other train is in pieces next to the track, so hopefully, they'll swap them out soon. Hang Time was about 20 minutes, and several of the others were walk-ons.

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Should be a great event. Knott's keeps upping the event game every year. I know a lot of people are disappointed that the expansion isn't happening in 2020, but I feel like that was a longshot, anyway. It WOULD be cool to see a new dark ride, like a rebirth of Bear-y Tales or a Peanuts themed dark ride come, tho.

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Now that all the Cedar Fair announcements are done, it looks like the 100th anniversary celebration is the only thing Knott's is getting next year. I guess CF spent all their money on the KI Giga, as their other parks are only getting water park additions or celebrations like this one. Hopefully this means Knott's will be getting something big in 2021 since the park is basically getting nothing next year.

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Now that all the Cedar Fair announcements are done, it looks like the 100th anniversary celebration is the only thing Knott's is getting next year. I guess CF spent all their money on the KI Giga, as their other parks are only getting water park additions or celebrations like this one. Hopefully this means Knott's will be getting something big in 2021 since the park is basically getting nothing next year.

 

All that to say; Cedar Fair did not make any statement saying "That's all Folks!". Knott's traditionally makes a Noveber-ish announcement for new rides and such. So, there might be more to come.

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