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Mack builds a good ride. Well made fun attractions. The other attractions are fine. Scrambler is getting close to the location where it originally opened. It's a good fit. I wish boomerang was gone and Corkscrew was still there. Make it pretty and break up some of that concrete.

Also a Peanuts themed dark ride about The Great Pumpkin would be cool. They could incorporate Haunt into it as well.

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I totally forgot all about those effects. Would be nice to have them back, but I'm not holding my breath. They really need to find some way to make the ride minimum 42'. I don't know what the reasoning is (insurance, laws, management), but they need to get it to 42'. That would be a huge benefit for a lot of families with children.

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I totally forgot all about those effects. Would be nice to have them back, but I'm not holding my breath. They really need to find some way to make the ride minimum 42'. I don't know what the reasoning is (insurance, laws, management), but they need to get it to 42'. That would be a huge benefit for a lot of families with children.

 

Height requirement change was due to 2 things:

1 - Lap bar only having a "3 click" design.

2 - Insurance company, (Thus why Zoom received seat belts as soon as CF took over. )

 

^Both of the Jaguars on the brake run only "breathe" mist. The controls for the fire on top of the Temple are still in the closet behind the Dispatch panel. There's no propane being fed to them anymore so they wouldn't work. I myself always wondered why they turned it off as it was a cool effect. There also used to be "Mee Fog" that used to run down the "stairs" at the entrance to the attraction. The park was working on getting that working back in 2010 and it did for a few weeks and then stopped shortly after that.

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^^I suspect that is an "old wives tale." There's no reason to go above and beyond manufacturers requirements unless something bad happened. And if that was the case, the manufacturer would have put out a bulletin requiring all their rides to add the seat belt and raise the height requirement to protect themselves from future liability.

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There's no reason to go above and beyond manufacturers requirements unless something bad happened.

 

There may be no reason but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It is very possible for the park to have ride policies that go beyond the manufacturers requirements for personal park reasons, especially if the ride mechanics believe they have a reason to do so.

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^What did you really expect from a park like Knott's in the mid 90s? High quality, near Disney-level theming with artificial terrain plus tunnels and water features?

 

Jaguar used to have mist/fog into the station and a fireball, plus the queue/station itself was impressive for its time. So they certainly tried.

grant it I was 5 or 6 when the ride first open, but there was nothing like seeing the ball of flame come from the temple. As a family ride I always thought it was a great addition, but the fact that it has a taller hight requirement then space mountain and the same hight requirement as ghost rider is ridiculous.

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Also, Sidewinder has a 42" minimum, and 48" with adult. So, a kid coulld be able to ride a spinning coaster with quick direction changes and turns that bank up to almost 90 degrees, but he wouldn't be able to ride a giant kiddie coaster that has extra seatbelts?

 

Also, do Mack spinners generally have seatbelts as well? It can be quite annoying how Cedar Fair overkills many rides with extra seatbelts, which really murder the capacity to rides like Sidewinder and Ghostrider. Actually, now that I think about it, I have only ridden one coaster that has PTC trains with individual lap bars outside of a Cedar Fair park, and that is Twister at Knoebels. To the individual lap bar PTC trains not have seatbelts outside of Cedar Fair parks?

 

It might save on insurance, but Six Flags parks can operate many older rides in their original form just fine. *WITH ONE TERRIBLE EXCEPTION!

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After seeing that GCI shuttle I wish Knott's had decided to build that instead of Coast Rider. Then they would have another family ride, and it would be way easier to market.

 

Edit: Considering this announcement was after Knott's there is a good chance that this wasn't even an option to be considered because the park may not have known about it. Still, at the very least it would have been cool to see two boomerangs side by side.

 

Second Edit: Screamscape just reported that Knott's could be considering removing Boomerang within the next five years. Certainly wouldn't be missed very much and would free up some space for a newer compact thrill coaster.

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A wood coaster certainly would go a lot farther in creating the classic "boardwalk" theme than a basic wild mouse they are intent on installing. I will not miss Boomerang at all. It is just too much of a headbanger to be enjoyable. I hope Knott's does have a vision plan for the area. So far the boardwalk theme pretty much looks like it is just going to expressed via wood fencing and possibly some new shrubbery. If they pull out Boomerang, relocate the ballroom, relocate Hammerhead, they do creae a decent sized plot of land for a wood shuttle coaster or something similar in scale.

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I'd rather see Knott's take care of Ghostrider before they build a second woodie, even if it's from GCI. That said, from a guest experience perspective, I could see the wooden shuttle being a good fit for the park.

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I honestly think they should make the closed KOD show-room into a storage room and then during the Halloween Haunt event, they should change it into a maze. That would be legit

 

It's been discussed numerous times in this thread that the KoD show building is not currently able to be used for anything. It was completely torn apart when they build Johnny Rockets.

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