Rich parents skipping lines at Disney!

[singemfrc]

^^^ In that story, the woman said she had "knee and back problems", the man refused to disclose what his disability was.

 

It's also worth noting that you don't need to be rich to hire these people..the man was charging $200/hr but the woman was charging only $50/hr.

 

Clearly there's a good reason that people with certain disabilities should not be made to stand in a line or if they're in a wheelchair or similar conveyance they may not be able to move through the normal que, but having them not have to spend any time waiting doesn't seem right to me either, and I've been one of them. (My mother is legimiately disabled and I've spent a day at disneyland skipping all the lines like the people mentioned above..I didn't like it. Even though we had a legitimate reason I still felt bad, and the rides lost a lot of their "disney magic" for me not going through the que at all)

 

What if there were a system similar to the Q-Bot system that Six Flags uses (or heck Im sure Disney could have a modified version of their fast pass system) wherein your disabled pass could reserve you a virtual spot in line so that you waited the same amount of time as other folks, but could do so comfortably elsewhere and still use an alternative entrance if need be? (Obviously this doesnt apply to the Make A Wish folks - those should definitely always deserve to skip all lines)

[Jew]

^ They have dis' ability to get rich people to give them a lot of money to skip the lines at Disney!

 

Ha. Win!

 

^^I'd like to know what disability, too. It's sad that this is going on, and I'm glad Disney is going to crack down on this practice.

 

They don't have to say anything. Parks will get sued if they ask anything other than "do you need accommodation because of a disability?" and "what accommodation do you need?"

 

Guest says they can't wait in line, park has no choice but to take it at face value. Which is why I hope Disney switches to return time passes (which people will still abuse for bonus fastpasses, but at least they have to wait the wait time)

[triggernel]

I think that news story is disgusting. Not the act itself, but the fact that the Today Show is going after Disney. I mean, they are owned by the same company that owns Universal, Disney's biggest rival. I would love to see ABC's Good Morning America go into Universal Studios Hollywood and do the exact same thing. Universal Studios Florida is my favorite park, but c'mon!

 

This won't be a problem in a few years though, when Fast Pass becomes a paid service. No need to pay a guide by the hour when you can just buy the Fast Pass system for the day.

[Jew]

^Uhm...what?

 

The Today show took a camera to confront the people who had already been making headlines. I fail to see how this is an attack in any way.

 

Also, at USH it would be pointless, since the majority of the guest assistance passes issued are of the return time variety.

 

Ultimately it is better for everyone that this came to light: now all parks will be examining their ADA policies to try and limit abuse will still accommodating guests who actually need something. That will probably mean more return time passes and fully accessible regular queue lines.

Edited June 1, 2013 by Jew

[Wes]

^ They have dis' ability to get rich people to give them a lot of money to skip the lines at Disney!

 

[triggernel]

^Uhm...what?

 

The Today show took a camera to confront the people who had already been making headlines. I fail to see how this is an attack in any way.

 

Also, at USH it would be pointless, since the majority of the guest assistance passes issued are of the return time variety.

 

Ultimately it is better for everyone that this came to light: now all parks will be examining their ADA policies to try and limit abuse will still accommodating guests who actually need something. That will probably mean more return time passes and fully accessible regular queue lines.

 

Oh c'mon! A real balanced new team would have done the same experiment at multiple parks, and I would hope they would have the balls to do it at their own park. You can't tell me nobody inside NBC/Universal had an evil thought when putting this piece together.

[DirkFunk]

LOL kill the messenger? Really? Somehow I doubt there's a black market of Knotts or Scandia Fun Center guides out there to compare with anyways.

[Jew]

^exactly. Its not like they were reporting on an actual industry wide problem. They were merely confronting some people whose cottage industry had already attracted national headlines from non Comcast owned papers/websites. If they were trying to be slanted, they would have added something to the piece about how ush and other parks limit abuse with return time passes

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[OCJ48]

Oh c'mon! A real balanced new team would have done the same experiment at multiple parks, and I would hope they would have the balls to do it at their own park. You can't tell me nobody inside NBC/Universal had an evil thought when putting this piece together.

 

Except that essentially every other park chain (including Universal) has a paid line-skipping program. Call it Express, Flash Pass, or Fast Lane, it's the same thing. Anyone who would pay MORE than the legitimate fee for these programs to get a disabled "guide" anywhere other than Disney is a moron. This "service" works at Disney because they don't have one of these programs. There's no one for the media to corner at any other park, it has nothing to do with having the balls to do it.

[jray21]

Disney also generally charges a lot more for VIP Tours than the other parks. I like that Disney generally makes all new rides wheelchair accessible so they don't have special access. Also, I think return times should definitely be used. That makes it fair for everyone.

[triggernel]

Alright, I'll admit, maybe I jumped to conclusions. I just got a little annoyed after seeing who was running this story. And like I posted above, once Disney starts charging for Fast Pass, this won't be a problem, if the current GAC sticks around that long.

 

Now if these parents are "smart enough to skip the Disney lines", why don't they just get their own GAC and skip the guide...?

[Aceattack52]

So now, for Disney to prevent this from happening in the future, will guests visiting the park with a disabled family member or friend have to provide so sort of ID to link them to the friends or family? That seems like it would resolve the issue since these people are hiring disabled people that are outside their family or friends.

[Top Thrill Dragster]

^ They have dis' ability to get rich people to give them a lot of money to skip the lines at Disney!

 

Ha. Win!

 

^^I'd like to know what disability, too. It's sad that this is going on, and I'm glad Disney is going to crack down on this practice.

 

They don't have to say anything. Parks will get sued if they ask anything other than "do you need accommodation because of a disability?" and "what accommodation do you need?"

Guest says they can't wait in line, park has no choice but to take it at face value. Which is why I hope Disney switches to return time passes (which people will still abuse for bonus fastpasses, but at least they have to wait the wait time)

 

 

Actually there is a way to control that as well. Just have a Cast Members scan each persons ticket in the disabled party, so the ticket becomes blocked from receiving Fastpasses or return times at other attractions. My Magic + should make this very easy.