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^Ha thats pretty funny.

 

I hate how everyone thinks the Bo Sox/Yankees rivalry is like the biggest ever when it kinda isn't. Its big and all but I think ever since the 2004 playoffs it has gotten way too much media attention. Whenever the two meet all of baseball has to stop and watch. Let me just ask you have any of you been to a Sox/Yankees game and what happens to the fans of the away team?

 

--Chris

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Ummm, If we lose, like the recent Yankee Bo game, I got in a really big argument with a drunken fat A$$ behind me, almost punched him, if we win, I usually celebrate. This is at an home game. Away, I wouldn't say a peep, I don't want to be surronded by abunch of fat smelly Bo Sox fans trying to kill me

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The Red Sox Dominate the Yankees once Again!

 

The Yankees top off-season acquisition pitched a good game, but comes up short at Fenway.

 

This is the Third series sweep in a row for the Red Sox! (I assume that has to be a record.)

 

Until next time, Go Red Sox!!!

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The joy over Pittsburgh winning both the Stanley Cup and The Lombardi trophy this year can be quickly sobered by the fact that they are also home to the worst team in Major League Baseball. They've been the worst for some time, as a matter of fact.

 

I'm still a Pirates fan, and I've always hoped through the years, but the fact remains that they have not had a decent season since 1997. Even teams like the Devil Rays have managed to have good seasons in the last decade...not so for the Pirates.

 

Yes, they have a very nice park that was given to them recently, but they're still stuck with owners who won't spend anything on the team itself, and any good player they get has to be traded away for 2 or 3 more rookies.

 

Frankly, I'm starting to lose hope, and forsee one of two possibilities for the Pirates in the future:

 

1. Contraction. Remember when the Minnesota Twins were threatened with this a few years back?

 

2. Moving. For years, I've seen jobs, people, businesses, you name it, leaving the North for the South.

 

America is all about the South now, and despite the turnaround the city of Pittsburgh has managed in recent years, people still want to be where it's warm.

 

This is why I could also see the Pirates, despite their history in MLB, moving to a Southern City that doesn't currently have a team, like anywhere in North or South Carolina.

 

Sorry if I sound excessively negative about this, but like I said, after all these years, I can't see my favorite MLB team now being anymore than the modern-day St Louis Browns.

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You probably should have just posted this in the mlb thread... hopefully they can be merged.

 

It would be cool if Charleston SC got a team. South Carolina has no pro sports, and I'd think that would be a nice town to have a retro ballpark blend right in.

 

However, I'm not sure the Pirates are going anywhere soon, irregardless of their humility. PNC isn't even 10 years old yet, and there would be some serious uproar considering the magnitude of public funds that were used...

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Well like I said, the only way they'll ever be able to compete is if they get new owners. I think the Pirates have the lowest payroll in the majors, and let's face it, in MLB, payroll means everything.

 

So until someone comes in to change that for them, I don't see the Pirates getting better even in 4 or 5 years.

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The 08 Marlins had a team payroll below what Alex Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez made as individuals, yet they still finished above .500...

 

I have to disagree. Putting out a lot of money can drastically increase a team's odds at playing in October, but not guarantee it. The Yankees had the highest payroll in MLB last year, but didn't make the playoffs, while the Devil Rays, with a payroll less than a third of the Yankees', went to the World Series. A good team can be a cheap one if you have great farm clubs/scouts

 

Of course, I say this being a huge Moneyball advocate.

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1. Contraction. Remember when the Minnesota Twins were threatened with this a few years back?

 

2. Moving. For years, I've seen jobs, people, businesses, you name it, leaving the North for the South.

 

The two things you mentioned have nothing to do with winning. It's all about money. They got the new stadium, so they aren't going anywhere.

 

Contraction was Bud Selig's douchebag way of squeezing a new stadium out of Minnesota and starting the process of hooking his buddy up with the Red Sox. With a new stadium, there's no need to contract. And they would need to find another team to disband as well, otherwise it would be impossible to keep the 162 game schedule. There's also no need to move, since walking away from a new stadium is probably impossible due to contractual agreements.

 

All of the teams have the resources to win. Investing in scouting/player development works just as well as having a giant payroll. It's just a matter of creating the right system for your team.

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The 08 Marlins had a team payroll below what Alex Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez made as individuals, yet they still finished above .500...

 

I have to disagree. Putting out a lot of money can drastically increase a team's odds at playing in October, but not guarantee it. The Yankees had the highest payroll in MLB last year, but didn't make the playoffs, while the Devil Rays, with a payroll less than a third of the Yankees', went to the World Series. A good team can be a cheap one if you have great farm clubs/scouts

 

Of course, I say this being a huge Moneyball advocate.

 

Well, that's true. But, both the Marlins and the Rays seem to be back to their losing ways this year, while the Red Sox and Yankees look as strong as ever (Yeah, I know people are saying the Yankees are struggling, but look at their record).

 

low payroll teams have had good years, yes, but from what I've seen, those tend to be fluke years. Money is what keeps good teams in top for year after year, even if they don't always make it to the World Series.

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^The key words being so far. Of course it's disappointing when a team that was in the world series last year is currently only 1 game over .500.

 

...But they are still only 6 games behind that team with the giant payroll. And like Joe mentioned, the +61 run differential suggests the team is still very good.

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Really? I was hearing different on ESPN. This one analyst was calling the Devil Rays the AL's biggest disappointment so far this season.

Frankly the only disappointing thing about the Rays this year is the disabled list. Aki's out, luckily Burrell came back last night and Jason Bartlett is playing down in Port Charlotte. Now if only Scott Kazmir could get up to it again or David Price could gain a little more control on his pitch.

 

I'm eagerly awaiting the Rays to be back in the playoffs again this year.

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I don't know quite what to think of the Marlin's at this point. They definitely have a ton of potential, but I just don't see them wining the division.

 

I like the Marlins, but you just can't build a team on pure talented youth. Sox go for the sweep today.

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I'll be in Pittsburgh on business all of next week. I just got tickets for Wednesday's Pirates game against the Indians. Mark DeRosa is on my fantasy team - I was kicking myself early on in the season for drafting him, but he is on fire lately. Aside from that, I look forward to seeing the Pirates up close as I really do think they are going in the right direction now with all of their youth.

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Wow, what a city Pittsburgh is. We have the Super Bowl Champs, the Stanley Cup Champs, and by then end of this MLB season we'll have the baseball team with the most consecutive losing seasons in sports history

 

I'm hoping for Boston to get back on top again, Sox WS and Pats 19-0... ok, I'll settle for the SuperBowl.

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Manny Ramirez is returning tonight against my Padres at Petco Park. The whole place is going to be overrun with Dodger fans. I hope he gets booed loudly by both Padre and Dodger fans. This guy cheated the game, he doesn't deserve to come back to a standing ovation. When I go to the game tomorrow, I'm booing him louder then when I booed Barry Bonds when he hit is 755th homer in San Diego.

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Haha Yankees lost to the Nationals.... That's pretty sad, but then again Ching Ming Wang was pitching.

The Nats did better against the AL east they have the whole year against the NL. Simply Amazing.

 

Nats are doing pure $hitty against bad teams and amazing against good ones...Weird. I'm very dissapointed in my Yankees, but they're still cooler then the Dumb Sox

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It's not very cool when one of your starting pitchers insists on pitching at the Major league level when he still has a bad foot and knows hes not in top form. Honestly Wang is greedy, If he wanted his team to win more he would step down for the rest of the season and get in the proper form for next season. But then again, it does help the Sox if he plays more, so I got no problems.

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