larrygator Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 ^Nope. He probably will not give the SEC any credit until one of them drubs USC and then he will just blame the sanctions. and the officials and illegal booster donations and recruiting infractons that the SEC co-conspirators cover up and USC not getting enough tickets to the bowl game and the bowl game being played in SEC territory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I would actually give credit where credit is due. I'd also gladly take the opportunity to say I told you so. We'll never know until it actually happens, but there's no doubt USC would be up for scheduling it (they're the only championship division team left that has not scheduled an FBS team). But again, I still stand by what I say. I really don't believe the SEC is leaps and bounds above other major conferences as the hype would lead people to believe. They're the best college football has to offer under the current system that is in place, but I really don't believe it's that much better of a conference. They have one or two elite teams every year, who are virtually guaranteed a spot in the BCS title game by how the rest of the conference has their schedules. It's pretty much a given the middle of the pack/pretenders in the SEC will go 9-3 because they schedule the likes of UAB, Wofford, and East Carolina at home (South Carolina) or Buffalo, Georgia Southern, and Florida Atlantic (Gerogia) to pad their record to offset losing to the best teams in the conference...which still leaves them ranked and a quality win for the elite team in the SEC, or even a "good" loss in the event of an upset for that matter. To the SEC representatives credit, they've always stepped up and won the game once they got there. Can't take that away from Florida, LSU, and Alabama. I don't think that would be the case if college football had a true playoff system, but again, we'll never know until it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Alright, let's all get off Joey's back here for a second, to his credit the PAC 12 is 12-11 in head to head games against the SEC over the past decade, and I will admit that I personally think the PAC 12 is a much better conference than most people in America realize simply because very few of their games are on television on the East Coast. I do still think the SEC is superior for a lot of reasons (recruiting, coaching, history, fan bases) but the Pac 12 is a clear cut second in my mind. Now if USC would just win a few games and solidify their status amongst the "Elite" teams maybe the rest of America would give the PAC 12 a little respect . A couple of huge games weekend, Alabama at LSU and Oregon at USC are probably the two that will garnish the most national attention. Any other big games people are looking forward to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 ^Either that, or USC needs to join the SEC. Then one (or two) inexplicable losses can still get you into the BCS title game because of the hype. Although, it is kind of ridiculous how USC has no one to really blame but themselves for not being the most dominate college football program---it's almost a given they'll find a way to be upset every year. Oklahoma State vs. K-state is probably the next closest thing to a marquee matchup outside of those two games. For me personally, UCLA vs. Arizona is huge as far as USC's slim chances at the Rose Bowl go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 As a Florida fan, the one thing that pisses me off, is that they haven't played a a non-SEC regular season road game outside of Florida since 1991. I would like to be able to travel to a game close to me. But hey, if you can schedule road games at neutral sites in Florida more power to you. I would like a home and away against someone within a 6 hours radius of NYC. Agreed, but unfortunately they've made it clear that they want 7 home games every year, and with the neutral site game against UGA and the annual FSU matchup, road games against other BCS conference teams become difficult to pull off. The weird thing is, next year there will only be 6 home games for the first time since 12-game schedules became mandatory before the 2006 season. That can't be good for cash flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterGuy06 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm glad Alabama won....but I HATE close games like that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 ^Could be worse: could have been the USC game. I think I was watching an NCAA 13 video game on easy with penalties turned off. Holy crap that was bad defense on both sides. I can't even complain about the refs when the USC defense was so bad I could have probably ran for a TD against them. ...And thanks to UCLA killing Arizona, USC can still win the PAC-12 south so we get to watch that video game all over again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 ^Yeah, while the USC vs Oregon game was fun to watch, you can keep you those video game defenses out west and I'll take that 21-17 chipstrap buckling concussion causing slugfest that happened in Baton Rouge last all day. Man that game was intense, and anyone that watched it would have to admit that home field advantage in Tiger Stadium at night is worth WAY more than a few plays and miscommunication penalties here and there, that place was absolutely insane! Honestly I haven't watched LSU play that much this year, but they are freaking tough. They might even have more top level NFL talent than Bama does, just couldn't seem to make enough plays to win. I think it's safe to say at this point that AJ McCarron is a pretty good football player, that guy made some huge plays in about the biggest stage there is. There is a lot of football left to be played but I'm pulling for an Oregon Alabama championship, nothing against Notre Dame or Kansas State but I think Oregon would be the most exciting matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 ^Aside from the fact I'm bias and don't want to see Oregon in the title game (if USC beats Arizona State and UCLA they'll get a re-match with Oregon in the Pac-12 title game, which of course I'd like for USC to win)...I don't think Oregon stands a chance against Alabama. I'd like to see it be K-state, since they seem to be a more complete team. Beating Oregon (or all those spread offenses for that matter) is about controlling the middle, something Alabama will do a lot better than USC did. Also, with the way USC shredded Oregon, I think Alabama would put up a ton of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterGuy06 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 While Oregon's offense is the scariest of the three to face, Chip Kelly's record in big games when the other team has extra time to prepare is abysmal. I would kind of like to see a Saban vs. Snyder matchup, but I'm sure ESPN would love a Bama/Notre Dame matchup simply for the ratings it would probably bring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 ^I hope USC can spoil that scenario too! It's hard for me to say Oregon's offense is over rated when they just torched USC for 61 points, but as I said, it is actually pretty simple to beat. Make tackles in open space on first contact and get a good push up front and they're done. USC did neither, and the result was 61 points. I suspect Alabama will have a bit more success with those two key things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierocker Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 ^You've got another 1 or 2 losses to look forward to so I wouldn't worry about USC screwing up any bowl scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Yeah I don't think Oregon can put up 60 points on Alabama or anything but I do think they're explosive enough that they can make some big plays here that could add up to maybe 20 or so. I would definitely rather see Oregon vs Bama instead of Kansas or Notre Dame, I don't think Kansas State is athletic enough to hang around with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) ^^I wouldn't be so sure. None of the teams USC faces have the athletes/QB play that Oregon did. Oregon made USC pay big for every mistake/missed tackle because they're so good (I lost count of how many times 1-2 yard games/loses became 5-10 yard games because no one could wrap up). USC's offense will keep them around in any game. So as I said before...they're good enough to win out (including winning the pac-12 title game), or bad enough to keep beating themselves and lose the rest as well. Edited November 5, 2012 by Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Beating Oregon (or all those spread offenses for that matter) is about controlling the middle, something Alabama will do a lot better than USC did. Also, with the way USC shredded Oregon, I think Alabama would put up a ton of points. The thing is though, I'm guessing Saban would want to just pound the ball on the ground and go with the time management approach...keeping Oregon's offense off the field as much as possible. What was impressive about Oregon's win over SC was that they finally had to play 4 quarters, and still answered the bell each time on offense. You're right about controlling the middle, but I think Oregon can scheme around that with all the speed and talent they have. I think that's why Bama-Oregon/K-State is so intriguing...the strategy involved is pretty interesting. The networks want ND, but let's face it, they're the Falcons of the NCAA right now. How each of those teams keeps winning is beyond me. They'll both stumble soon enough. Either way, it'd still be my Festivus miracle to watch someone drop 60+ on Saban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 ^If Saban has a month and a half to prepare for one game I'm not sure the Packers could score 60 against him. Which is another thing that I think hurts Oregon in these big bowl games, their offense is really dynamic and difficult to prepare for on a week to week basis, but if a team has 4 weeks to practice against it and familiarize themselves with all of their sets prepare for that ridiculous pace of play then it really levels he playing field. I think Oregon puts up impressive number on some teams that are poorly coached unprepared to defend that style because it's so different, but with 5 weeks and a national championship on the line they aint fooling anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 That's why I'd rather see K-state. That would be a real coaching chess match, and Colin Klien is a great player. Oregon has already shown how they do in big games. As much as I love seeing them falter, I'd rather watch a good football game for the national title now that USC is out of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'd rather see ND in the championship game against Alabama to guarantee another SEC champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 ^Speaking of the SEC...The Sugar Bowl will begin to host the champion of the SEC vs. the champion of the BIG XII (or their runner ups if they are in the playoff games) in 2015 when it is not part of the playoff rotation. The other bowls selected to host playoff games: -Rose -Orange -Fiesta -Cotton -Chik-fil-A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterGuy06 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The big three bowls are Rose, Sugar, and Orange. It's hilarious that ESPN is paying $80 million a year EACH for the Rose and Sugar but only $55 million for the Orange Bowl. Poor ACC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 ^Speaking of the SEC...The Sugar Bowl will begin to host the champion of the SEC vs. the champion of the BIG XII (or their runner ups if they are in the playoff games) in 2015 when it is not part of the playoff rotation. I predict an average of 9 sacks and 3 interceptions for the SEC team in this game every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 ^Sounds about right. Of course, I think the BIG XII is the next conference to fall apart when the inevitable next round of "realignment" starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterGuy06 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 ^I don't know if, outside of Texas, any school can afford to leave when you consider that they all agreed to give the Big 12 their long term media rights, even in the event they were to leave for another conference. I also see them pairing up with the SEC as a way for those two plus the Pac 12/B1G to be the "big four" in the event of further realignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 ^There's no problem lawyers can't solve when it comes to leaving a conference. Didn't a couple of schools get out of their contracts early with settlements? I just can't see Texas and Oklahoma being happy about anchoring the conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simaticable Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Alabama finally falls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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