Ledgy Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 This is a bit OT but I want your opinion on this. Look carefully at this picture: On the left, where the second row ends there's some kind of train chassis. There's people claiming that's for a wing-rider train. IMO it's just a part of the train for the Dive Macine but I wanted to know what you think. I didn´t recognize it before, but after the last post with the car, you really can see the seats on this picture, too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 ^^^I was thinking the same thing, but after a closer look it doesnt look like theres a mechanism to rotate the seats so we should be safe. I hope this ride doesn't become a thorn in B&M's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) Maybe they'd use censors on the track that trigger a computer in the train to rotate the seats a certain way at parts in the track? That's too unreliable, censors won't always work and having a seat in the wrong position for an element could cause serious discomfort or injury! It would have to be mechanical. EDIT, oh yeah.. Edited February 3, 2011 by Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liftsifter Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 ^ a little late.. It's TESTING!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteocrepaldi Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Something better!!! The credit goes to Gardaland Tam Tam (http://www.gardalandtamtam.com). Go here (http://www.gardalandtamtam.com/) to see more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhappy Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Something better!!! The credit goes to Gardaland Tam Tam (http://www.gardalandtamtam.com). Go here (http://www.gardalandtamtam.com/) to see more! or check the previous page for more images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPDave Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I have a headache just looking at the trains, reminds me too much of a 4D! I really hope they DON'T ever try and spin their new creation! I would hope B&M could come up with a more elegant solution to rotate the seats. Arrow's millions of moving parts on exceptionally heavy trains is not great! I'm all for it if B&M can refine the idea. I wonder if they put a cover over the wheels because if you stick your hands straight out sideways, it looks like you could get really close or possibly even grab the wheel assembly. I'm sure the safety envelope has been designed so that you won't be able to reach the wheel assembly regardless of the cover being there. What if the cover falls off mid cycle and you could touch the really heavy fast spinning wheel? I think B&M have that covered (quite literally!) Dave "I'm really looking forward to this thing!" Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Name Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I have a headache just looking at the trains, reminds me too much of a 4D! I really hope they DON'T ever try and spin their new creation! I would hope B&M could come up with a more elegant solution to rotate the seats. Arrow's millions of moving parts on exceptionally heavy trains is not great! I'm all for it if B&M can refine the idea. The easiest system would be what Intamin uses; having the trains' seats freely spinning. However, I don't think that would work on a ride such as this one, since the track isn't parallel top-to-bottom like a Zacspin. A mechanical system could work, but these trains are large enough as it is; an overly complicated system like what Arrow used would indeed make the trains much heavier. Plus, X's mechanical woes are well known by all. I don't think B&M wants to risk putting a complicated system on their ride. The sensor thing MIGHT work, but then comes the problems with computer failure. Maybe the seats can rotate to normal position (how the seats are pictured on the current trains) if a sensor or onboard system fails. Then again, I am probably reading wayyy too much into 2 pictures. I wonder if they put a cover over the wheels because if you stick your hands straight out sideways, it looks like you could get really close or possibly even grab the wheel assembly. I'm sure the safety envelope has been designed so that you won't be able to reach the wheel assembly regardless of the cover being there. What if the cover falls off mid cycle and you could touch the really heavy fast spinning wheel? I think B&M have that covered (quite literally!) Dave "I'm really looking forward to this thing!" Wilson I can't think of any instance of a B&M wheel spat falling off mid-ride. And I thought the spats were to protect the wheels from the outdoor elements rather than the riders. Like you said though, B&M probably designed the safety envelope so one can't simply reach the bogies. I too can't wait to see this thing in action. Would love to see one here at SFNE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liftsifter Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Rather than using a computer sensor system, couldn't they change the trains a bit, and solder on certain pieces of track a little extra track piece, that would work almost like the Arrow system. Or couldn't they program the ride's trains? That way at a certain time in the ride, (after disengaging the lift) the seats would move in a direction? That would seem to work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Rather than using a computer sensor system, couldn't they change the trains a bit, and solder on certain pieces of track a little extra track piece, that would work almost like the Arrow system. Nothing gets soldered to a ride unless it involves the rides electrical wiring. Or couldn't they program the ride's trains? That way at a certain time in the ride, (after disengaging the lift) the seats would move in a direction? That would seem to work.. Arrow thought of this and on paper it looked good but they found it not to be possible as it wouldn't be reliable. B&M may have something up their sleeve for future "4-D" attractions but Raptor will probably stay "as is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) =| Edited February 3, 2011 by ernierocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Not bad.....Lookin' sexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjune4991 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 That. Looks. INCREDIBLE. I hope I get the chance to go there this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 It's probably just me, but this thing looks pretty boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 It definitely could turn into another InTRimidator but we'll have to wait to ride it to judge. I'm personally not a fan of "post Werner-Stengel" B&M coasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougMJr Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I actually havn't kept tabs on this project for a couple weeks. But I'm so excited to see trains on the track. And those trains are looking pretty good, never thought camo could look so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Nice. I likey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastercrutchfield Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) Oooo, nice. Has anyone seen the restraints yet? Edited February 3, 2011 by coastercrutchfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCo Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Very interested to hear some early rider reactions to this. Big, wide lift hills get my mojo working, for reasons unknown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason10 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 This has me excited to see the ride in full swing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Dude Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Ooh! Looks awesome! Can't wait to see this thing in action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteocrepaldi Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Wow! And it's just 100 miles from where I live! Can't wait for opening day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 ^I'm jealous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo237 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Looks pretty damn sexy!! Once Six Flags finds out about this. No doubt the will be wanting one in one of their parks. Remember Air at Alton Towers?? Suddenly Six Flags jumps up and wants a Flying Coaster. I Hope Six Flags Over Texas gets one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenDen Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 It's probably just me, but this thing looks pretty boring. Yea, I'm not "getting it" either. Looks to be a tame, standard B&M coaster with fancy seats. Yay for all new coasters, but I'm not excited here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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