DILinator Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I can guarantee you when you hit the brakes on this thing, the last thing you're going to be worried about is how short the ride was. ^Really, at the end of the day, when this coaster is operating, and all the people who have complained about its length have ridden it, THIS is going to be the bottom line! Even on Goliath, which is definitely, objectively, a pretty short coaster, I wasn't thinking "dang, that was short!" when I got finished riding it. I was thinking "Oh man! What an awesome coaster that was! That stall was one of the best things EVER!!!" Twisted Cyclone looks great! I really hope 2018 is the year I finally get to SFOG for the first time, and get to ride this thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 All I gotta say is that what Twisted Cyclone might lack in length, it would definitely make up in airtime, inversions, and intensity. This looks like a fantastic ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Hamilton Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Let's see... SFoG has what is possibly one of the best hyper coasters, one of the best standup coasters, a classic Schwarzkoph, the original terrain Superman clone, a kickass Batman clone, a Eurofighter, an old school looper that the chain un-sucked, a solid old school wooden out and back, and one of the best atmospheres in the park chain. Now, the park is getting a kickass RMC makeover on an unpopular ride and you're bitching because they left out one lap? Not surprised. Seems like a pretty 2017-ish thing to do. Meanwhile, we'll enjoy our new water slide at SFSTL next year, with our newest coaster being a 30 year old boomerang hand-me-down. Not to mention what they have other than coasters. They have a unique drop tower, some good flat rides, and 2 great dark rides. I mean they're not Cedar Point so you can't expect every new coaster to be their best. And who knows? There's a good chance it may be. I have 0 RMC's anywhere near me and I've never ridden one. Just be happy you're getting an RMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT325 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 , a classic Schwarzkoph Schwarzkopf And the finest damn looper in the chain. In the world. And to some, top steel coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jynx242 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 ^ Word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Goliath, which is definitely, objectively, a pretty short coaster Nope, it's definitely, objectively, a coaster of average length. The only people who ever say it's short are enthusiasts on message boards. We don't need more echo chambers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILinator Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Goliath, which is definitely, objectively, a pretty short coaster Nope, it's definitely, objectively, a coaster of average length. The only people who ever say it's short are enthusiasts on message boards. We don't need more echo chambers. You're cherry picking one part of my comment, and missing the whole point of my post, which was that the length of the ride is irrelevant if it's fun as heck like Goliath is! It IS pretty short in duration (length of time on the ride - not talking track length). That is an objective statement. I've ridden a crap ton of coasters in my life (so I have a lot of experience to compare it to), but have a normal life outside of all that, and am by no means a typical raving coaster enthusiast. There's no echo chamber here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastKid Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I'm at the park today and it's absolutely packed. A pretty miserable day overall, with most waits encroaching an hour. Superman has gone down three times since I've been in line, with cycle times averaging about 8-10 minutes. Seems like everyone is trying to soak up the last bit of summer with today being the waterpark'a last day in operation for the year. Also, for my 2018 pass renewal, the attendant said my old pass wouldn't scan and he gave me a new card. Kind of interesting and very wasteful on behalf of the park. Any idea on why that might be/if I should hang on to the old one for the remainder of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I'm at the park today and it's absolutely packed. A pretty miserable day overall ... I don't know man, the best things in life are worth waiting for. ... jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 All I gotta say is that what Twisted Cyclone might lack in length, it would definitely make up in airtime, inversions, and intensity. This looks like a fantastic ride. That's what I'm thinking!!! Like, do people not realize it's not the length that matters?? It's all about how well it rides. Sure, Twisted Cylcone could have been longer. . . But then again, they could have just completely removed Cyclone from the park. Which would you rather have??? Exactly. Plus, once leaving the lift hill, it is nearly the exact same ride time as Outlaw Run... and I never hear people complaining about how short Outlaw Run is. Not to mention you guys get a pretty kick ass prelift, where Outlaw Run has nothing. So instead of complaining about how short the ride is, can't we all just appreciate it for it's greatness?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILinator Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Like, do people not realize it's not the length that matters?? It's all about how well it rides. That's what I'm saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster_girl_79 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I'm at the park today and it's absolutely packed. A pretty miserable day overall, with most waits encroaching an hour. Superman has gone down three times since I've been in line, with cycle times averaging about 8-10 minutes. Seems like everyone is trying to soak up the last bit of summer with today being the waterpark'a last day in operation for the year. Also, for my 2018 pass renewal, the attendant said my old pass wouldn't scan and he gave me a new card. Kind of interesting and very wasteful on behalf of the park. Any idea on why that might be/if I should hang on to the old one for the remainder of the year? I am wondering if this will be the norm...new cards?? When I tried to renew mine during the flash sale, I was having issues. I chatted with them, the guy said I had been given a new number to avoid someone trying to use my card...which is weird b/c I had just been there the weekend before with no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephcissell Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I'm at the park today and it's absolutely packed. A pretty miserable day overall, with most waits encroaching an hour. Superman has gone down three times since I've been in line, with cycle times averaging about 8-10 minutes. Seems like everyone is trying to soak up the last bit of summer with today being the waterpark'a last day in operation for the year. Also, for my 2018 pass renewal, the attendant said my old pass wouldn't scan and he gave me a new card. Kind of interesting and very wasteful on behalf of the park. Any idea on why that might be/if I should hang on to the old one for the remainder of the year? I noticed that the park was closed to the public last Saturday, I guess for some special event or something. That, in combination with the number of people that were trying to get 2018 passes processed, might have contributed to your crowds. I also need to get over to the park to get my new pass processed. Has anyone noted more progress on Twisted Cyclone? So ready to see some of that beautiful blue track get installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastKid Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Has anyone noted more progress on Twisted Cyclone? So ready to see some of that beautiful blue track get installed. As of yesterday, the track was missing from the second turn around next to the park entrance, but that was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreaminNewEngland Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Like, do people not realize it's not the length that matters?? It's all about how well it rides. I disagree, I think the length has a very big part in any ride. Look at Goliath, is it a great ride? Of course it is! But it's one of RMC's weaker creations due to its short layout and lack of more elements. I think this will be a nice ride but definitely one of the weakest of the RMC hybrids to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I think this will be a nice ride but definitely one of the weakest of the RMC hybrids to date. You realize that not every roller coaster has to be "OMFG-crazy-three-minutes-long-ejector-inversions-stalls" to be world-class, right? I realize that I'm slightly biased being from central Pennsylvania and all, but, well, you know what argument I'll make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I disagree, I think the length has a very big part in any ride. Look at Goliath... From leaving the lift hill to hitting the brake run... Goliath is still longer than Outlaw Run. Outlaw Run is about 34 seconds, Goliath is about 40 seconds... And Outlaw Run is a DAMN good coaster, and Twisted Cyclone will be no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOG1991 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Ride length makes a big impact on a ride for me, and I feel like many other people feel the same way. I have no doubt Twisted Cyclone will be amazing, but personally, ride time is a major factor. I just don't like really short ride experiences, especially if the line to get on takes 2 hours. Twisted Cyclone will be a great ride, and the length is not going to change, but it is unfortunate to see them cut it short when it could have a really cool final lap with wacky small hops and tricky track work. That's something I really loved about Wicked Cyclone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boldikus Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Just going on the park-released renderings for comparisons sake (only fair since we only have a rendering of the 2018 RMCs): from drop to brakes Steel Vengeance - 75 seconds Lightning Rod (launch included) - 50 seconds Wicked Cyclone - 50 seconds Twisted Timbers - 50 seconds Storm Chaser - 45 seconds Joker - 40 seconds Twisted Cyclone - 35 seconds Outlaw Run - 35 seconds Goliath - 30 seconds Compare that to the average duration of (usually) very well-renown coasters, drop to brake: El Toro - 50 seconds Phantoms Revenge - 50 seconds I305 - 45 seconds Skyrush - 45 seconds Batman clones - 40 seconds Megalites - 40 seconds Nemesis - 40 seconds Storm Runner (launch to brake) 30 seconds Dragster (launch to brake) - 17 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddy Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I cant wait till the RMC Trucks show up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Just going on the park-released renderings for comparisons sake (only fair since we only have a rendering of the 2018 RMCs): from drop to brakes Steel Vengeance - 75 seconds Lightning Rod (launch included) - 50 seconds Wicked Cyclone - 50 seconds Twisted Timbers - 50 seconds Storm Chaser - 45 seconds Joker - 40 seconds Twisted Cyclone - 35 seconds Outlaw Run - 35 seconds Goliath - 30 seconds Compare that to the average duration of (usually) very well-renown coasters, drop to brake: El Toro - 50 seconds Phantoms Revenge - 50 seconds I305 - 45 seconds Skyrush - 45 seconds Batman clones - 40 seconds Megalites - 40 seconds Nemesis - 40 seconds Storm Runner (launch to brake) 30 seconds Dragster (launch to brake) - 17 seconds Boldikus - Don't go cloudying up this argument with facts! Seriously though...I'm sure the ride will be great. I too enjoy a long ride, but that doesn't really hurt my enjoyment of shorter rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhr.trell Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Does anyone think they will add a launch coaster to the line up sometime soon? Another unique coaster to go with the new rmc will continue to add to the quality of the park. Not saying they have to add a big coaster like KK, but maybe something like Cheetah Hunt at BG-T or Storm Runner... Not too intense but gives a good thrill, especially for the youngsters. Would have like to see them invest more money into the back of the park instead of just wasting it into Blue Hawk . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seddy Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Im thinking about heading to the park later today but I dont have anyone to go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotologist492 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Does anyone think they will add a launch coaster to the line up sometime soon? Another unique coaster to go with the new rmc will continue to add to the quality of the park. Not saying they have to add a big coaster like KK, but maybe something like Cheetah Hunt at BG-T or Storm Runner... Not too intense but gives a good thrill, especially for the youngsters. Would have like to see them invest more money into the back of the park instead of just wasting it into Blue Hawk . The closest thing SFoG has had to a launched coaster was Viper (1995-2001), which was a decent but very short ride. After my first rides on Mr Freeze, I have been hoping our park would eventually get a LIM coaster but I have also heard somewhere that the power grid would not allow for it. Not sure if that is true but that is what I heard. I would not expect to see another coaster added for a few years (after a Hurricane Harbor expansion and hopefully a giant discovery) after our RMC gift next year. I certainly do not see the improvements to Blue Hawk as a waste. That coaster was nearly unrideable and now it is halfway decent again. If the park would upgrade and rehab all their existing rides, think of how much better it would be. I strongly believe the SF chain is headed down the path of reinvesting in their current attractions, which is not a bad thing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephcissell Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Like so many of us, I had to stop by the park by yesterday supposedly to process my 2018 pass. Showed up at the park around 4pm, and it was absolutely packed. I got “lucky” finding a spot in the tiny corner section that is on the far east end of the main parking lot, but plenty of cars were hunting for spots with no luck. I’m sure the free admission with a blood donation had a big impact on attendance yesterday, but it was still a little surprising to see it that packed for the first Sunday of Fright Fest. Anyway, I got my pass processed, walked over to Twisted Cyclone for a status update, and headed out. Unfortunately I didn’t see anything new to report. Didn’t see any track on site yet and it looks the same as the photo posted here from about a week ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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