dragonskeep Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 Thankfully I didn't follow the Hard Rock thing at all, I havnen't been hurt before. I love these guys for even trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 ^Take care that your "love" isn't misplaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COASTAH FREAK Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 So after reading through the thread, I must ask, am I the only one who is picturing small children with big guns here? As somebody said earlier, it really just looks like somebody build a park in rct3 and said, "I want that in my backyard". I mean, I'd never pass up being 425 feet in the air, but it just seems a taaad unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonskeep Posted October 19, 2010 Share Posted October 19, 2010 ^^But she is sooooo hot. The rides that is. I guess they already got me once with the surf park. I used to go by there every time I was on I-Drive only to see the same small wave pool that would never work. I am learning to trust again. Seriously someone has to know of something these guys did right. It mostly comes down to wether or not the investors have money they want to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) 15 coasters? Seriously? News reported by WFTV includes diagrams of the park layout Proposed Theme Park's Master Plans Unveiled During a meeting Wednesday night at Festival Bay Mall, the company tried to win over concerned residents for a second time. Many residents are worried about noise the park will create. “You can show all the photos, all the landscaping, diagrams, we do not want the noise,” said Tangelo Park resident Renee Anthony. The company has offered to build a 650-foot buffer wall so residents won’t hear noise coming from the park. It also says a parking garage and a retention pond will cut down on noise. Some people are supportive of the new park. The project could create an economic impact of $1.7 billion over 10 years. It would also create 2,000 new jobs. “This is an opportunity for not only the residents, but for the children that are coming up for economic impact for jobs,” said Tangelo Park resident Gwendolyn Clinton. Orlando's municipal planning board is expected to take a look at the plans for the new park at a meeting next week. Edited November 12, 2010 by larrygator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 425 foot inverted accelerator coaster???? 650 foot wall????? SERIOUSLY????????????? I want whatever these people and the Big Dipper chick have been smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 ^ They just want to make sure it can be seen from space - which is still a much better marketing plan than the Dipper people!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Well I have to say they had me at launched motor bike coaster, then when they added the possibility of an intamin cable, I was sold. I'm sure they won't start with 15 coasters, more like 5 or 6, hey wait, isn't that what Hard Rock started out with? hmmmm. If they build it, I will come, or go, which gets me there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek_lentz Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 425 foot inverted accelerator coaster???? 650 foot wall????? SERIOUSLY????????????? I want whatever these people and the Big Dipper chick have been smoking. I think they were talking about the length of the wall, not the height. But still, this all just sounds like someone sitting in school doodling ideas for a "Really Cool Amusement Park" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Well I have to say they had me at launched motor bike coaster, then when they added the possibility of an intamin cable, I was sold. I'm sure they won't start with 15 coasters, more like 5 or 6, hey wait, isn't that what Hard Rock started out with? hmmmm. If they build it, I will come, or go, which gets me there first. That seems logical, but it seems illogical that they would mention there would be 15 in the first place if they were not going to built them initially, especially considering they're showing images to the GP . They seemed to be showing a proposed map, does anyone have, no where I can find that map online? This wont happen btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) The "investment cost" of $259 million seems awfully low for what they want to build... Steve Baker has found a goldmine: collecting consulting fees from bankrupt theme parks. This is sure to be the next on his list... Edited November 12, 2010 by Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 The company has offered to build a 650-foot buffer wall so residents won’t hear noise coming from the park. It also says a parking garage and a retention pond will cut down on noise. It's a good thing nobody will mind a 650-foot wall built near them. If this was being proposed here, I'd go to every city council meeting and beg to have that wall built near my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 They seemed to be showing a proposed map, does anyone have, no where I can find that map online? In the link that I provided on the last page, I hope the TV station didn't remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I read masterplan...what im taking from that is thats not gonna all be installed in the first year but a glimpse of where they wanna take the park, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierocker Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 In the link that I provided on the last page, I hope the TV station didn't remove it. The map is still on there. This is just way too far-fetched to take them seriously even if it is just their master plan. 15 coasters?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 but it seems illogical that they would mention there would be 15 in the first place if they were not going to built them initially, especially considering they're showing images to the GP In any design it's a good idea to show what it will look like, even if it's eventually. Many shopping/retail/housing developments are built in phases but complete renderings are shown to planning commissions or in public meetings to show what they will eventually be doing. So I don't really think that it would be unreasonable for them to show a completed drawing, even if they don't really have a full plan. Speculating what they could be thinking here would be to get some quickie drawings out to the public, see the reaction, see the reaction of the council, then decide if a complete engineering and architectural design are warranted as those cost big dollars. Too much backlash, you walk away, at least a logical person would walk away. Hitting on another comment about cost, they could up hit up ital and buy a dozen flats(who cares what kind, just through them in) for around 2 million (hey six flags, hint hint), then transport freestyle/hard rock's coasters once bought out of bankruptcy for 10 or 20 million, build the traditional pond for not much money, put down some asphalt and prefab buildings and bam, instant park! Then, if they actually survive, add a coaster each year until they hit the magic number of 15 all while incurring the same debt level as Cedar Fair. If they get it built, like I said before, I will go, maybe just once, but I wil go, quickly after opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Please please please keep these plans coming. This is perfect comedic material for the long winter off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Jizzman Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Why don't they just build the Great Wall of Orlando with the 200-300million they're investing? It can be America's newest natural land mark! People would come from allll over the world just to see it. So I believe they could pull in 10.7 billion dollars. Look out Disney, Universal, and Busch Gardens! Or maybe they could bribe Wisconsin to trade the name Florida with them...I bet they'd give in at 50 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-RadG Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Seriously? They're just asking to have their asses handed to them worse than after the failed Hard Rock Park. 15 coasters to start with? One over 400 feet tall? Also I think I'd rather hear the noise of people screaming than have to see a 625' wall everyday. Stupidity- 1 Common sense- 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightbeawannabe Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I believe the only successful rides on the plan that they could actually buy are the Standard SLC and the Inatmin Hydroflume(what are these called?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) Seriously? They're just asking to have their asses handed to them worse than after the failed Hard Rock Park. 15 coasters to start with? One over 400 feet tall? Also I think I'd rather hear the noise of people screaming than have to see a 625' wall everyday.Stupidity- 1 Common sense- 0 A 625 foot wall it not ridiculous, that's only the length of 2 football fields. Edited November 15, 2010 by larrygator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COASTER FREAK 11 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Why do people think they are building a 625' Tall wall...Its 625' Long! And if you still that's thats crazy, how long do you think the average freeway wall is? A hell of a lot longer then 625'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) Why do people think they are building a 625' Tall wall...Its 625' Long! And if you still that's thats crazy, how long do you think the average freeway wall is? A hell of a lot longer then 625'... Enthusiasts like to make fun of the mistakes made by the GP, but sometimes (many times) they are no better. Oh and that includes me. Edited November 15, 2010 by larrygator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-RadG Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Oh god I feel really stupid. I completely misread that. I thought they meant 625' tall wall. My bad. But yeah, that's not so bad now. I thought it sounded kind of stupid... but hey, what can you expect from someone proposing a park with 15 new coasters from the get-go who also pioneered another poorly thought-through park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernierocker Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 (edited) A 625' tall wall would be one of the tallest structures in Florida! And yes, a 625' long wall is no big deal. Most parks have some sort of noise barrier between it and adjacent properties whether it is a noise wall or a line of trees/heavy vegetation. Edited November 16, 2010 by ernierocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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