PkiJake Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I have a feeling that the 50's area is on its way out of Geauga Lake. I heard Steel Venom is being moved to Dorney Park too for 2008. However I guess they could work fast enough and it could open this season at Dorney Park, its not a big coaster. I think Head Spin will go to Michigans Adventure next year and maybe there Sky Tower. Or both of those rides will be sold to toher parks like the Chaos rides. -Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canobie Fan Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I really see the ride showing up at Dorney. Putting it where the Skyscraper once was. Its no real secret Cedar Fair is slowing killing the park off.. Next year watch for BKF/Dom and the SLC to be rip'd out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjeagle35 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Wow, I never really expected this park to lose 2 coasters in one year. Obviously Steel Vemon and X-Flight were the parks most expensive rides to operate, so I'm guessing it was just a bussiness decision to let them go. Does any one truely know how GL was doing financially lately? It seems the park may have bigger problems than we thought. I'll tell you what though, by removing 2 coasters and not putting in any kind of replacement attraction definatly will make CF look bad in the public's eyes. I don't think their removal will help GL's attendance by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Why pay 26 bucks to ride 8 coasters and two thrill rides in an hour when you can drive 2 hours and pay about 5 bucks more but get alot more for your dollar(KENNYWOOD). because some people can't drive an hour or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjeagle35 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 ^Sorry for all those GL fans, but that has always been GL's major weakness. They are just sandwitched between 2 far superior parks. GL just can't seem to find a niche, something they can be better at than CP or Kennywood to thrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Its kind of like well SFMM is only an hour away from Knotts, but it doesn't mean that everyone wants to travel that far for a theme park, but they don't want to spend the money for Disney so they go to Knotts instead. Same logic applies here, but as such, CF realizes that GL is more of a "local" park then a destination park, unlike Cedar Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoshiFan Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Didn't I hear rumors of Dorney Park eventually going to get an Impulse a while back? Or am I just imagining things? I know MIA would need it more, but the rumors pointed to Dorney Park. Along with Dorney getting a new power line and the ongoing rumors of the demise of Laser... I'd be very upset if that happened. There were also rumors of Laser getting refurbished but as of a month ago, it didn't look like they did anything yet. I still want that rumored GCI wooden coaster before an impulse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraxleRIDAH Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 ^ I can sympathize. Schwarzkopf coasters are scarce nowadays. I can see why some enthusiasts would like to see it continue operating. However, from an outsider perspective, Laser has really outlived itself and is pretty much a fossil of the steel coaster world. I can certainly see Dorney Park removing Laser to have it replaced with an Impulse coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 A lot of people may take these as signs of Cedar Fair "dismantling" the park, but all it really is, is just downsizing and relocating assetts to properties that could benefit from them. And Flashback has been closed for Hurricane Harbor's "safety" for the past 3 years now too, SFNO's Batman is just being dismantled "for repairs," etc.... If removing 2 of the parks newest coasters isn't a sign that Cedar Fair may have other plans for park, I'm not sure what is. Downsizing would be removing the SLC or Boomerang, not two of the newest/most marketable coasters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVE SFKK Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Alright, I have to say it, It seriously has a really good chance of going to WoF. Im nor completely sure, but they still have a pretty good portion of unused field left, right? I think this would fit in perfectly with the attractions Wof already has, and it would be an instant hint. Besides MA, WoF doesnt get very much love. They dont get new rides often. This is a really fun park, and management is usually always pretty good. For gods sake, there waterpark hasnt gotten any thrills in like 10 years Im crossing my fingers(just like i did for X flight, and countless others)that it will go to.WORLDS of FUN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerC Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Alright, I have to say it, It seriously has a really good chance of going to WoF. Im nor completely sure, but they still have a pretty good portion of unused field left, right? I think this would fit in perfectly with the attractions Wof already has, and it would be an instant hint. Besides MA, WoF doesnt get very much love. They dont get new rides often. This is a really fun park, and management is usually always pretty good. For gods sake, there waterpark hasnt gotten any thrills in like 10 years Im crossing my fingers(just like i did for X flight, and countless others)that it will go to.WORLDS of FUN! They just got Patriot. I don't think they will see a major coaster for another 3-5 years. BTW, Dominator is one of the rides that WONT be leaving. Along with VIllain. If the park is staying in shape, then they will keep those two. One, they are currently the most popular rides in the park and it fits the park nicely. Two, Steel Venom will be running this season at GL. It was confirmed a few months ago that it was being repaired and will be running for the 07 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraxleRIDAH Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 A lot of people may take these as signs of Cedar Fair "dismantling" the park, but all it really is, is just downsizing and relocating assetts to properties that could benefit from them. And Flashback has been closed for Hurricane Harbor's "safety" for the past 3 years now too, SFNO's Batman is just being dismantled "for repairs," etc.... If removing 2 of the parks newest coasters isn't a sign that Cedar Fair may have other plans for park, I'm not sure what is. Downsizing would be removing the SLC or Boomerang, not two of the newest/most marketable coasters... Ha. Flashback initially really was closed frequently due to its location adjacent to Hurricane Harbor, but then was then eventually discontinued from operations due to a combination of factors including its sporadical closures due to its location, low patronage, and tight budget cuts (under Burke's management). And Mark Shapiro and Jeff Speed stated in a January 12 conference call with investors that New Orlean's Batman coaster was removed because it only received minor damage and was "salvageable." Repairs are being addressed on the attraction where it is needed and the company plans on reassembling it at another one of its parks as they see fit. So I don't see how those two examples work for your point. They're all true. As for Geauga Lake, it really is downsizing by removing these two rides. I don't understand how you can't comprehend the fact that X-Flight and Steel Venom are two of the most costliest attractions at Geauga Lake to maintain and operate and for a park the size of Geauga Lake with sagging attendance to retain them, will prevent Cedar Fair from fully restoring the park back to what it used to be before Six Flags was behind the wheel. Six Flags made a huge mistake by installing Steel Venom and X-Flight in Geauga Lake in hopes to directly compete with Cedar Point. In case you forgot, Six Flags built FIVE roller coasters in TWO years at Geauga Lake. The park's balance of attractions was completely thrown off. Their plan of turning that park into the Midwest version of Magic Mountain blew up in their face. Having lost MILLIONS on the Ohio park, we saw them exit the Ohio market with their tail between their legs. By removing X-Flight and Steel Venom and relocating them elsewhere is a smart move on Cedar Fair's part. Besides MA, WoF doesnt get very much love. They dont get new rides often. This is a really fun park, and management is usually always pretty good. For gods sake, there waterpark hasnt gotten any thrills in like 10 years! Please. 1998 - Mamba 2000 - Boomerang 2001 - Camp Snoopy 2002 - Thunderhawk 2003 - Paradise Falls 2004 - Spinning Dragons 2006 - Patriot I hardly call that "doesn't get much love." For a park that attracts less than a million people annually, that's a lot of damn love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerC Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I'm still skeptical. Why wouldn't they announce that they were removing it when they announced X-Flights removal? Also, I would assume that if they were to remove it, they would of taken it off the site a while ago. It looks bad on the parks part to have a ride on the site that isn't there when you go there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 However, from an outsider perspective, Laser has really outlived itself and is pretty much a fossil of the steel coaster world. Legends never die.. but you, sir, can for suggesting that Laser has outlived itself. It will have a new life elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PkiJake Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 They just didn't announce X-Flight was leaving fro awhile ater the rumours got started. They also left it on the website until recently. -Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraxleRIDAH Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 However, from an outsider perspective, Laser has really outlived itself and is pretty much a fossil of the steel coaster world. Legends never die.. but you, sir, can for suggesting that Laser has outlived itself. It will have a new life elsewhere. You are correct. Legends never die. However, Laser, is not a legend. Legends are not two-loop rides built in the late 80's and attached to a foundation held up by stacks of wood planks over concrete. I also appreciate the death wish. You are SUCH a good person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffy Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Does anyone else think its odd that Carowinds say you might see a major ride? Carowinds is not announcing any major new thrill rides for 2007 but is "hopeful" that it will add such rides in future years, said spokesman Scott Anderson.Sun News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 However, from an outsider perspective, Laser has really outlived itself and is pretty much a fossil of the steel coaster world. Legends never die.. but you, sir, can for suggesting that Laser has outlived itself. It will have a new life elsewhere. How dare you say that to compact Schwarzkopf coasters that still operate in modern parks? <... is very partial to Scorpion at Busch Gardens Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 However, Laser, is not a legend. Legends are not two-loop rides built in the late 80's and attached to a foundation held up by stacks of wood planks over concrete. Have you ridden Laser? Half of the aura of the ride is that it is more kickass than most "permanent" coaster! If you are going to try to call a ride old, at least get it right, the ride has been around since around 1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekRx Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Maybe Cedar Fair will move Steel Venom to Cedar Point and put it right in front of Wicked Twister and call it Little Twister. As for Laser leaving Dorney, that rumor is as old as some of our members. As far as legendary goes, since I still grey out in the 2 loops, I'd consider that a pretty legendary ride. Some people should probably keep their accuracy in threads about Psyclone and Flashback if they don't know what they're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Laser is the best coaster at Dorney! (Not like that says heaps, but you know!) Although, removing it would piss Joe off...so it would almost be worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I am really trying hard not to be a sore loser and you keep making it difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraxleRIDAH Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I'm sure Laser will be just fine. And if by some strange chance it DOES get ripped out for whatever reason (like, for example...an Impulse coaster)...what can one do? I'll tell you. We mourn and get over it. Maybe Cedar Fair will move Steel Venom to Cedar Point and put it right in front of Wicked Twister and call it Little Twister. HAHAHA. Wicked Twister Jr. It would be so ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerC Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I heard Kennywood us going to buy it and call it the Pittsburgh Rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraxleRIDAH Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 I also heard you just made that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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