robbalvey Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 So this is just speculation, but did they forget to RAISE the net before she dropped? It doesn't sound like she missed it, just like it wasn't in the proper position. Have you read ANYTHING that was posted in this thread??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 (edited) That's what leads me to believe that one of the cables holding the net must have failed. The SCAD Towers don't work that way. Listen to what Elissa has said. She actually DOES know what she's talking about! I'm not even sure why someone would question her comment when 1. She has quite a bit of experience with this ride. 2. This same accident has happened multiple times before. 3. It even told us in the report what happened, which is common throughout all the other SCAD Tower accidents: "the net was not high enough above the ground to completely break the fall and she did hit the ground."  We have been on (I believe) every version of the SCAD tower ever created - portable, indoor, and at least 2 of the permanent ones.  We even shot footage for one of the operators and was given a pretty extensive insight on how they operate. Please try to remember these things before questioning us.  --Robb "We are not going to post information unless we are SURE our information is accurate as it possibly can be." Alvey  EDIT: I see Elissa already responded...sorry! Edited July 31, 2010 by robbalvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I get what she was saying now, I just misunderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 ^It's hard explaining complex rides on the Internet sometimes! Â I'm still just so angry about this accident. I really hope the little girl ends up okay and they fix these rides. Â Hopefully some definitive information will come out at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Yea, most importantly I hope the girl is going to be ok. Â I hope they fix the problem as well. I have always wanted to try this ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 This is indeed a sad experience for the girl and her family. I have watched many a people patronize these but have never yet found the courage to try it out. In all reality there are only three rides I won't get on and this is one of them. I am honestly fearful the net won't catch me correctly or that I would land improperly and break my neck. I realize the breaking of the neck part is probably extremely unlikely, but, so is not being caught correctly by the net (i.e. speculation as to why contained in this thread). A few locations I have stood by as a spectator have had an airbag underneath as a backup, while others only have a mat for when they lower the contraption. Â As for the other two rides I won't get on. One being the famous intamin chop drop towers (superman @ kentucky kingdom incident) I just can't do it. Fear of a cable snapping and cutting off my feet?, no thank you. While there is no need for debate on whose fault it was or should've been, or whatever, the fact for me is that I won't get on one, period, no matter how much I really really want to, when walking to the line, I do a 90 and walk past. The only other ride I won't get on, Insanity: The Ride @ the Stratosphere in Vegas, sorry. I'll jump of the tower on their new contraption, but can't bring my self to sit in that thing, swing out, and spin around looking at the ground 950 feet down, no thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaMiTsPaT Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Just terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidra Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 What a horrible experience for the family and even the people that must have witnessed it. I hope things turn out ok, but a head injury like that from such a drop has to be one of the worst things to get through. Â It does seem like something as simple as an airbag under the nets could prevent these kinds of accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightbeawannabe Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Is it possible that she 'bounced' off of the net? I haven't seen one of these in operation, so sorry if it sounded quite stupid. Â I hope the girl makes a full recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboard83 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 My heart dropped when I read this article. I just rode that SCAD tower last month! To be honest, I felt like everything was extremely rushed and I felt like my safety was not priority. The 2 guys that set me up were rushing because it was about to rain and they did not want to get wet, they were each barking what they wanted for dinner to each other while the cage with me in it was on its way up, and I was not given any safety instructions other than "hold on to this rope connecting the harness" 2 seconds before I dropped. While the safety instructions to someone that is very familiar with rides may be obvious, this is not a typical ride. Just hearing safety instructions would have made me feel much more comfortable, even if I got the gist of it. Who knows? I'm just saying the ride employees did not seem to be "into" their jobs, aware, and did DEFINATELY not make me feel comfortable. If they had been paying attention, not being on their phones, not talking about lunch/dinner etc, the ride op at the bottom SHOULD have noticed something was wrong with the net. I hate to say it, it sounds like a mixture of mechinical and operator error. I too have a video from my fall and the net appears to automatically rise with the elevator, as others have said. Â I feel so bad for this girl and her family and wish her a full recovery. Â ^ I do not think it would be possible for anyone to "bounce," there just was not enough tension in the net when I rode it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Is it possible that she 'bounced' off of the net? No. Read the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire2box Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I hope the girl makes a fully recovery, she put her trust and life in the operators hands and so did her parents. I would love to see for her to make a full recovery, and this riding staying open while making vast improvements for rider and staff safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 It seems like a total failure that the ride can operate like that. I'm a fully certified Skycoaster operator, so I've seen first hand how well designed they are, as well as how protective Skycoaster, Inc is of their rides. Skycoaster is very hands-on. They require that a "site controller", certified by the company is on the site at ALL TIMES. Even if the site controller is just going to the bathroom, operation must cease. Also, Skycoaster has made several preventative changes over the years to keep their safety record clean. Â But most importantly, there's just no way to operate the ride that would put the rider in danger, save for two things. One involves leaving the "rolling boarding platform" out, at the few sites that use those. The other would involve a deranged operator hooking flyers up via the release system, which isn't really possible, but if you're determined, it can be done. All that adds up to Skycoaster never having a death, and only one major injury (drunken irresponsible employees, who hooked themselves up in reverse and left their boarding platform out in the flight line). Â Whoever designs the SCAD towers must figure out a way that a person cannot be released without the net in place. They should probably also implement a "site controller" system. One major injury is too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Whoever designs the SCAD towers must figure out a way that a person cannot be released without the net in place. They should probably also implement a "site controller" system. One major injury is too many. Agreed. And now this is the 3rd or 4th of the EXACT same accident. I rarely would ever suggest not riding something, as the odds are very much in the riders favor, and even with a SCAD tower they still are, but I'm beginning to think I may not recommend these to people anymore. Â --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatdaddy Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Terrible, I saw one of these on TV and thinking how cool it would be, because it looked "safe". I really feel for the parents, my daughters turning 6 and is just about tall enough for her next level or rides and this kinda thing always makes me think twice about what i put my kids on. Hopefully this will draw enough attention to get the ride manufacturer to make the changes need to make this ride fail safe and idiot proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitalize Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Absolutely awful. Thoughts are with the girl and her family. Â I know I would chicken out if given the chance to experience this attraction, another incident like this just makes that easier for me to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastercrzyjames Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Wow, what terrible news. I hope the girl recovers and her family is okay. I guess unless they get the ride operating in the next week or two, that we can cross this off our list of things to do while in the Dells for Mid America? I was actually looking forward to this ride experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Saw a quick piece about this on the National News this morning. The footage they showed showed the net intact with all four points still attached, whicih again goes back to all of our original speculation that someone did something really dumb and did not raise the net up far enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I have not seen any report of this yet, but has anyone heard if the girl is going to be ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Saw a quick piece about this on the National News this morning. The footage they showed showed the net intact with all four points still attached, whicih again goes back to all of our original speculation that someone did something really dumb and did not raise the net up far enough. Are you SURE Elissa? Perhaps the ride spontaneously combusted...or got attacked by a giant cookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajc47 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I have not seen any report of this yet, but has anyone heard if the girl is going to be ok? Â Let's hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjsharkattack10 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I just read that the park is going to be sold at a forclosure sale on Sept 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscoasters Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Â You can see in this video that the rider comes to close to the ground anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if someone did actually hit the ground. IDK if the SCAD tower in this video is the one in the Dells or not, but regardless, it is still a SCAD tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0sterfreek Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Words cant describe on how terrible this is. I agree. I would never ride one of these for the fear of the net not working correctly. Thoughts go out to this litter girl and her family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 ^^^ Yep, the park is being foreclosed... Â http://wcco.com/wireapnewswi/Wis.park.where.2.1835939.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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