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Terribly tragic indeed.

 

What in hades is wrong with these parks? Schwartzkopf rides are some of the best desgined in the world- let alone of any class out there. Schwartzkopf built his rides to LAST. And yes, it's not the most terror-inspiring rides on the planet, but it suits a great need for such types of rides in any given park. Yes, I love a good solid thrill monster like Griffon or Storm Runner, but a good mid-size ride is also nice to have at one's disposal. Loch Ness Monster isn't the biggest, nor the fastest, but it's still a great ride. ShockWave (Texas) is a mid-sized ride that packs quite a punch.

 

Perhaps some entrepneur will get wise and start buying up these gems and building a retirement home for coasters such as Black Hole, LightningBolt (MGM Grand Adventures, LVNV) etc. There's a lot of open space out there near Phoenix, and it's good weather for steel rides...

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About the flying coasters wich is the most popular because everywere im hear about Air at alton towers but not as much Tatsu why is that so?

 

Maybe is this a crappy question but I just wonder.

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Depends where you live.

 

In Florida, you might find a few people who know about Superman, but beyond that they've never heard of a flying coaster.

 

Most people don't really think about these things. They just hear about things third hand, and might only recollect a little.

 

So for people who live near a park, that's the most famous coaster of whatever type you're looking at. Most probably don't even think that other parks might have 'em too.

 

And if it's a type that's not found very near where you live (like my Superman example. Or to me more extreme, Floridian knowledge of 4D coasters) -- you might find a few who know about it. But they couldn't tell you much of anything in detail. And most just wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about.

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Depends where you live.

 

In Florida, you might find a few people who know about Superman, but beyond that they've never heard of a flying coaster.

 

Most people don't really think about these things. They just hear about things third hand, and might only recollect a little.

 

So for people who live near a park, that's the most famous coaster of whatever type you're looking at. Most probably don't even think that other parks might have 'em too.

 

And if it's a type that's not found very near where you live (like my Superman example. Or to me more extreme, Floridian knowledge of 4D coasters) -- you might find a few who know about it. But they couldn't tell you much of anything in detail. And most just wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about.

 

 

you have totally right becuase for five years ago i did'nt know what Millennium Force was.

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Plus Air was the first B&M flying coaster so when it opened it was very popular, so now when you surf the net you can still find lots of articles from when this coaster was still big news. Thats what i'd guess...

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In my opinion, Tatsu, hands down. Especially since X is closed...all of those people trying to get on X say, okay, since we can't get to X, let's go to Tatsu, making the line REALLY long, like down the hill, and that was on a sunday and a thursday when I was there....I dont know too much about Air anyway, so I can't say for sure.

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In my opinion, Tatsu, hands down. Especially since X is closed...all of those people trying to get on X say, okay, since we can't get to X, let's go to Tatsu, making the line REALLY long, like down the hill, and that was on a sunday and a thursday when I was there....I dont know too much about Air anyway, so I can't say for sure.

 

What does X being closed have to do with Tatsu being more known world-wide than Air?

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Air is also different from the other flyers: it is the only flyer that has some track where you lay on your back instead of the usual flying position (yes I know that that's also the case in those pretzel loops but I mean laying on your back for a longer period then 2 sec. or so).

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This is what I mean with laying on your back

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This has pretty much already been discussed...this thread needs to be locked. Follow up on the topic below-:

 

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28366&highlight=flying+coaster

 

The two threads are completly different. They botha re about flying coasters, but they arn't asking the same question.

 

That is what I ment thank you

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Air is also different from the other flyers: it is the only flyer that has some track where you lay on your back instead of the usual flying position (yes I know that that's also the case in those pretzel loops but I mean laying on your back for a longer period then 2 sec. or so).

 

You've obviously have never heard of BORG Assimilator, X-Flight, and Batwing.

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Air is also different from the other flyers: it is the only flyer that has some track where you lay on your back instead of the usual flying position (yes I know that that's also the case in those pretzel loops but I mean laying on your back for a longer period then 2 sec. or so).

 

See...thats a valid point. On AIR you do spend MORE time on your back then you do in the "Flying Position". I personally have had the privledge to ride AIR, And I didnt much care for the whole on your back experience. I guess its the whole going through inversions on your back deal. BUT...I perfer Tatsu Over AIR because Tatsu IS A Flying Coaster...You are more in the Flying Position, unlike AIR. Just my personal opinion...

 

-Ryan

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Air is also different from the other flyers: it is the only flyer that has some track where you lay on your back instead of the usual flying position (yes I know that that's also the case in those pretzel loops but I mean laying on your back for a longer period then 2 sec. or so).

 

You've obviously have never heard of BORG Assimilator, X-Flight, and Batwing.

 

 

This thread basically discusses wether Air or Tatsu is the best, so my statement applies to those 2 only.

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Do you think scaled down size could equal:

 

Length: 3510' 6"

Height: 118' 1"

Inversions: 0

Speed: 55.9 mph

Duration: 2:08

Max Vertical Angle: 70 Degrees

 

???????

 

That sounds about right for a woodie for me!

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^ Hummm...sounds like someone knows something...

 

It does. But 118 feet tall? I'm thinking seventy feet at the most, with alot of terrain utilization, and like a 100 foot or so first drop into the valley, or maybe a 60 foot or so first drop, then a helix or airtime hill, then a big drop into the valley

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