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As promised, here is an update about the Timberliner trains for Voyage:

 

In 2011, The Voyage will use two seven-car PTC trains (The Raven will have two six-car PTC trains).

 

The Timberliner models tested here in 2010 will be upgraded after similar models are used at other parks this season. Because of the extreme speeds and forces on The Voyage, we feel it is better to wait until there has been a full season of Timberliner-use elsewhere (on less extreme coasters which were designed with Timberliners in mind). GravityKraft will then refurbish our trains so that we’ll have the most up-to-date models.

 

We intend to introduce Voyage’s Timberliner trains at the start of the 2012 season.

 

Happy St. Patrick's Day! Paula

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Oh wow, bummer to hear. I was really looking forward to seeing them on the Voyage this year.

 

/\ this

 

But, id' rather have them be super amazing and safe with additional testing, rather than rushing them out and potentially having major issues down the line

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I like the ride just the way it is, so waiting a year is fine by me.

 

Word.

 

Except instead of "like," I'd throw in "worship slavishly," or "love to a stalkerish degree" or something else along those lines.

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Because of the extreme speeds and forces on The Voyage, we feel it is better to wait until there has been a full season of Timberliner-use elsewhere (on less extreme coasters which were designed with Timberliners in mind).

 

I thought Holiday World bought the Timberliners because they were told that the Timberliners were designed with The Voyage in mind.

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^^ I think this is true, but having the Voyage as the first ride with them might not be the best idea. The Voyage (and Hades) are kind of extreme and I'd agree that testing them on a more "normal" ride might be best. I'd prefer them to get the "tweaked" design rather than the first of a kind. Gives them more data to use before the running them over the insane track that is The Voyage.

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While I loved Voyage with PTCs, I think I'm more interested in riding it with TLs than trying to ride it this year.

Which is why I probably won't go to Holiday World this year But who knows. I think Wildebeest was just as good as Voyage.

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That's too bad. I'll be going to Holiday World for the first time this July and was hoping to try the Voyage with new trains. With the PTC trains, I've heard it runs very rough. Hopefully they've done some track work so this isn't the case, as I think Voyage looks like a great ride and I would prefer to not experience it in its worst possible condition.

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^If they're smart they won't do too much track work as the PTC's will just rip it apart and they'll have to do it all over again for 2012.

 

One of the conditions for getting the MF's on Gwazi was that Busch also did a really big retrack at the same time.

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^If they're smart they won't do too much track work as the PTC's will just rip it apart and they'll have to do it all over again for 2012.

 

One of the conditions for getting the MF's on Gwazi was that Busch also did a really big retrack at the same time.

 

Agreed! If I'm not mistaken, running the PTC's caused them to have to do major track work every off season, right? Hence - the Timberliners.

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Where are they gonna get the trains? before the 2010 season, the Voyage's old PTC trains were sent to Darien lake and now run on the predator. i really need to go to Darien lake again, because along with two new trains, they also did major re-tracking from 2008-2010 on the ride. It was good when i rode it in 2003, still good in 2004, but it was Awful in 2007. i seriously felt shoulder and chest pains after a backseat ride. i'm glad it's getting improved.

 

But it's a total bummer that holiday world cant run the new trains this season, but i guess it's for the better

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How long have they been testing the timberliners with water dummies? Doesn't really make sense to me that water dummy testing isn't sufficient...

 

They must have found something pretty serious during testing.

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