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I don't really care too much for water parks, but I have to say that Holiday World's is an AMAZING one and really won me over. I actually took time off from riding Voyage to spend time in their water park.

 

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No, they make them good now. /ducks

Forget throwing a guitar off the ride, judging by the musical style, it seems he got to ride Voyage in 2003!

New Raven video!  

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^I'll have to agree with you there. After riding some of the slides at Holiday World and especially Wildebeest and Mammoth, I am now a certified waterboy! The problem I had with water parks before Splashin' Safari was long slow lines (in 'chain' parks). We still get lines at HW/SS, but they are managed efficiently, and the service is so good.

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I love this new addition and can't wait to try it next year! Are there any other water parks that have three water coasters? Or does this count as 4 water coasters?

 

Just another reason to do Holiwood Nights instead of CoasterMania if they fall on the same weekend...

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Return run was great in August with all the new wood and IPE wood as the top two layers. The spaghetti bowl turnaround was probably the worst part, but not nearly as bad as I've experienced in years past with others parts of the ride. I'll say they've done an outstanding job the last 2 years with the re-tracked sections. I really think their maintenance team has benefited from working with the GCI crew on Legend in 2016 in terms of how they build their track now.

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Having recently ridden Tremors, I wonder if it's worth it long term putting topper track on those 90 degree turns in the spaghetti bowl. The topper track flowed seamlessly with the rest of Tremors and it apparently fixed the roughest part of that ride.

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When I rode The Voyage in July, aside from a moment or two in the spaghetti bowl, it didn’t feel any rougher than average for a wooden coaster. Still nice to see them maintaining it well, even if it means closing it for the season early.

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I wonder how much longer Holiday World is going to pour money into maintaining Voyage season after season before developing a long-term solution like topper track or even prefabricated wood. It would still keep the classic wooden coaster feel while significantly cutting maintenance costs (I assume). And like Canobie Coaster said, the old-to-new track would flow seamlessly and would only be necessary on the most intense parts of the ride.

 

Another example is Roller Coaster at Lagoon. Obviously that ride is no where near as tall, fast, or intense as Voyage, but there are a few spots on that coaster with topper track (or something very similar) and it works wonderfully.

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Topper track or I-Box it, but keep the layout as similar as possible to the original ride, I say. I wouldn’t want to see a crazy “typical” RMC layout. Smooth Voyage is my #1 overall coaster experience. Haven’t ridden it since about 2008, though.

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IMO, with some wooden coasters a slight-to-moderate amount of roughness can make it more exciting than if it was glass smooth.

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They’d still have two of those at Holiday World if Voyage got some sort of RMC treatment. The time and money the park would save to not have to do such extensive work on Voyage every season could be spent to keep Raven and Legend in tip-top shape more consistently.

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They'll never RMC it. Remember, the people who now own the park, their dad, Will Koch was a co-designer of that ride and they consider it to be his masterpiece. Lets give them a chance to continue to re-track the ride like they have been doing so over the past years, because what they've been doing has worked tremendously in my opinion. They've only re-tracked 1500 feet the 6,442 feet in the last two years, so they definitely have more to do.

 

Oh and to RMC this ride, it would cost them upwards of 25 million or more to do it (when compared to SV price tag). It would have to be the biggest coaster RMC has ever created to this point. They would already have the worlds longest Hybrid coaster, but to even get the tallest and fastest from BG, they would have to add 53 feet to the lift (It would make the ride 223 feet tall with a 207 foot drop!) which is probably around what they'll need to just complete the layout. If you haven't noticed, they haven't spent more than 7 million in a year since Thundebird, so the chances of it happening are slim.

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I love Voyage how it is, a traditional wooden-tracked coaster. The trains are great, too; can be rough, but gives you a real roller coaster ride. My last rough ride on Voyage was 2011; it gets it's spots every year, no biggie.

 

When they built Voyage, they probably knew how much it would cost to maintain and willing to do that in order to have such a unique, awesome and popular, coaster.

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I don't even think Voyage is the roughest coaster in the park- Raven has always been consistently rougher on all of my visits, especially towards the end.

 

I think they're all uncomfortable. I actually hate Legend. Like hate. Raven jack hammered the shit out of me on my last two visits. Voyage is one of those pain vs. please scenarios, but after a ride or two I'm tapped out. If they sold beer I'd probably be all about Voyage.

 

This park is only three hours away from me. I never go. I pass by several times a year for KI or other parks.

 

For me, Holiday World is where I can ride a great ride like Thunderbird. When I'm not doing that I can get the shit kicked out of me by all three of their wooden coasters or wait shirtless in hour long lines for water coasters when I'm not wading elbow to elbow in the wave pool. It would be more of a fun place to grab a couple beers, but again...

 

Everyone raves about the Thanksgiving dinner. No doubt, it's pretty good. But to call it delicious like so many do is a little overstated. The soft drinks are wasted on me, because one I treat myself to my one park Coke/Pepsi I'm all about water.

 

Holiday World is a nice little park and it's exceptionally clean and friendly. People love it, but it's not my cup of tea. Sometimes I think about going, but it's just not worth my time since KK is an hour away and KI is about two hours away. I wished I liked it more. I'm willing to bet my opinion will change drastically when and if we have a kid.

 

Honorable mention to Gobbler's Getaway as being awesome.

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I don't even think Voyage is the roughest coaster in the park- Raven has always been consistently rougher on all of my visits, especially towards the end.

 

I think they're all uncomfortable. I actually hate Legend. Like hate. Raven jack hammered the shit out of me on my last two visits.

 

I haven't ridden Legend since it got re-tracked, but I sure did dislike it before. Not sure if I'd go to the point of hate, but not far off. I also thought Raven was overrated, and a bit rougher than I expected.

 

However, I absolutely love The Voyage, and consider it my favorite Wooden coaster at the moment! I know it's not "smooth", but at least on all of my rides on it (admittedly taken earlier in the season), I've found the roughness to be very tolerable, and the ride delivered to be wild, crazy, and intense in all the right ways!

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I visited HW on June 22nd(along with KK) and I loved the Voyage. Didn’t think it was rough at all but not perfectly smooth either. As for the other woodies I enjoyed the Raven more than the Legend. Heck I’d say even Thunder Road was better than the Legend. What killed my ride on the Legend was that helix towards the end. There was just way too much jackhammering during it.

Just like the Beast thought there’s no way the Voyage is ever going to get the RMC treatmeant. I think at the most they should switch the PTC trains to either the timberliners(like they had originally planned to do) or millennium flyers.

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Ah, another chapter in the books for Voyage. What a fascinating history. I'm sure the locals aren't happy about it being closed since that's one of 5 major attractions closed for the rest of the year on top of the water park now being closed.

 

I wonder what they're going to do differently to help it sustain a smoother ride season long. I've only been to HW in May so I have great memories of the Voyage and only hope for the best, whatever the solution may be.

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