Raven Maven 0 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 ^ Ha! For every person who wants us to replace a ride, there's someone else begging us to never remove it. #ThemeParkProblemz Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroGravity55 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Picture from HW's FB. Pretty sure those are y-ledgers on the turn next to the station. That was a flat turn for the most part so that's one modification. It looks like they're redoing the final turn as well as there are several bents missing. Link to post Share on other sites
neil009 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 ^...Not what I was hoping to see. A lot of people are probably going to really dig the changes. I'm glad they're giving this ride some attention. I just liked it the way it was. I don't like having to sound whiny or ungrateful, I'm not. I'm super grateful I got the chance to ride it last season. And maybe the changes will be a net positive, who knows. But clearly what made the ride so unique is changing. Link to post Share on other sites
A.J. 36 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 A lot of people are probably going to really dig the changes. I'm glad they're giving this ride some attention. I just liked it the way it was. I don't like having to sound whiny or ungrateful, I'm not. I'm super grateful I got the chance to ride it last season. And maybe the changes will be a net positive, who knows. But clearly what made the ride so unique is changing. Yeah, there aren't very many wooden coasters that are about the laterals anymore. I guess they're just going out of style? Link to post Share on other sites
HolidayWorldFTW 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 The one thing I'm not sure about is who the heck on their staff has enough time for producing a podcast! I mean all the likely people are already extremely busy people. Slackers all: Matt, Lauren and Leah. Plus me as wrangler. None of us truly has time to spare, but we really want to do this. We'll bring in others from our staff and occasionally industry partners, too. Ha, there is no way ever you could convince me the 4 of you are slackers at anything, lol, but nice try Paula! Anyway, this REALLY excites me! Any idea when we might see the first podcast arrive? Link to post Share on other sites
CoryPa77 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 A lot of people are probably going to really dig the changes. I'm glad they're giving this ride some attention. I just liked it the way it was. I don't like having to sound whiny or ungrateful, I'm not. I'm super grateful I got the chance to ride it last season. And maybe the changes will be a net positive, who knows. But clearly what made the ride so unique is changing. Yeah, there aren't very many wooden coasters that are about the laterals anymore. I guess they're just going out of style? A lot of the late 90's CCIs avoided the use of ledgers as much as possible I've noticed. So, keeping the turns flat meant you could get away with only one ledger. I think the Legend actually had no y-ledgers prior to this modification, which is pretty amazing really. The ledger is the most expensive single piece of wood on a coaster, so by reducing them as much as possible, it cuts down on material costs. The problem with a lot of the flat turns are the PTCs would ride wheelies on them a lot, which means the upstop wheels were acting as the primary running wheels for those cars! Link to post Share on other sites
CoasterDirected 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yeah, I thought laterals with PTCs pretty much destroyed the track Link to post Share on other sites
SFOGdude25 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Didn't expect this at all, but the bottom of the first drop is being completely rebuilt from the ground up. GCI is really making their mark aren't they? Not that I'm complaining. Link to post Share on other sites
SFOG1991 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I loved the intense laterals and I feel like wooden coasters with good laterals are hard to come by anymore, so I hope the new banking doesn't take away from that too much. My boyfriend didn't like The Legend that much with endless laterals but I thought that was what made it so great. I am still totally excited about the double down and tunnel though! Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroGravity55 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 The problem with a lot of the flat turns are the PTCs would ride wheelies on them a lot, which means the upstop wheels were acting as the primary running wheels for those cars! And I think this is what GCI is trying to fix. I think there will still be laterals in those turns, but most definitely not as intense. When I heard that GCI was doing the refurb I actually had the thought that they might reprofile those last three turns to give them the famous GCI bam-bam airtime as they would seem to be prime candidates. I'm really interested to see how this turns out. Link to post Share on other sites
AirMBTB 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yeah, there aren't very many wooden coasters that are about the laterals anymore. I guess they're just going out of style? I'm a total curves guy, I love my laterals. Even if it's over an annoying seat divider... which can be odd, I guess, if you're not used to it. My other point of view is that B&M and GCI are making wimps out of people, when it comes to coasters. People used to love a REAL roller coaster ride. Count me as bummed GCI is doing the work. Understood/accepted, but still have an opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
n1ch0las 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Can't please everyone I guess. GCI is re-tracking a good portion of the ride from the track up (so it'll ride nearly brand new), no ledgers or anything. They are ADDING a double down (awesome) and reprofiling what I liked to call the turn of death before the station. This thing will still be a lateral machine, minus a kind of boring straightaway and an awful turn. Plus it'll be smooth. Trying to find the negative in all this, but other than not needing to brace myself during night rides before the second last turn I'm not seeing a while lot. Link to post Share on other sites
jynx242 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I think all of this sounds great. Laterals are fun, but the times I've ridden the Legend they have been rather brutal, bordering on not fun. The Four Corners in particular was pretty rough. That being said, I really don't think there is a way to re-profile this ride and take a lot away from the lats. It is how the layout is. I think smoothing out some of the laterals will add HUGE benefit to the ride and look forward to seeing it when it is done. I don't think the naysayers will be as disappointed as they think they will be. David Link to post Share on other sites
Guy T. Koepp 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 So happy to see this! I can already feel less of my rib cage getting cracked. Now if they could do something with all the flat turns in the helix, this ride might jump a few notches in my wood coaster list. Link to post Share on other sites
HWLover 0 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I personally found the Legend painful on the last four corners at the end, but other than that I loved it. I can say though that everyone I have ever seen on the Legend from school trips or church or any others, they found it way too painful at the end. I think that if they repofile the turns at the end to where they aren't as harsh, no one in the GP would complain. Link to post Share on other sites
OneOfTheWills 0 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 My other point of view is that B&M and GCI are making wimps out of people, when it comes to coasters. People used to love a REAL roller coaster ride. You have your cause and effect switched... You make it sound like people (read: generations of park guests) never change and that manufactures are forcing customers to change....which is completely backwards. In other news; It looks like the changes we've seen from the photo above literally only changes the last 5 seconds of the ride, and we have no idea if these changes are positive or negative. Kleenex is running low on product from all the whining going on. It's one thing to be interested and enthused (as such we are enthusiasts) but to bicker and complain about something that none of us have experienced yet, is gross. Speculate, sure, but how about we support a park willing to keep their rides evolving rather than sending them straight to the trash pile for the next mass produced crowd-tickler. Now...back to your regularly scheduled programming. How about that former Sparkler spot?? Anyone catch this on the latest (2/2/2016) HoliBlog post? Meanwhile, we open for the season in just over 11 weeks. That means we need to go around the World in 80 days getting ready for our 70th Birthday season! Interesting usage of the Jules Verne title. New clue? Hot air balloons? Maybe this? Link to post Share on other sites
DBru 7 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 ^Great catch! Holiday World also recently tweeted, "I've found it's easier to just click "add to dictionary" a lot this time of year," which almost certainly means something else new is coming. And don't forget the, "Should we put it here...or here?" post from late last year. I'd say a Zamperla Samba Tower (or something very similar to what you posted above) is a pretty safe bet after that last hint. http://www.zamperla.com/products/samba-tower/#! Link to post Share on other sites
michaellynn4 31 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 ^ Those rides are great family attractions and would really fit into the park very well. Link to post Share on other sites
kyleparks77 0 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 ^^ Ohhhhh I like it! Link to post Share on other sites
CoasterDirected 0 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Didn't KK recently get one of those? Link to post Share on other sites
timetrial3141592 0 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 A lot of people are probably going to really dig the changes. I'm glad they're giving this ride some attention. I just liked it the way it was. I don't like having to sound whiny or ungrateful, I'm not. I'm super grateful I got the chance to ride it last season. And maybe the changes will be a net positive, who knows. But clearly what made the ride so unique is changing. Yeah, there aren't very many wooden coasters that are about the laterals anymore. I guess they're just going out of style? Well, Schilke said he wants to bring laterals back, so at least we'll have that. Link to post Share on other sites
kyleparks77 0 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 The latest Holiblog post had a couple of references to "full steam ahead" with added emphasis on "steam" each time. Hint at something new? Link to post Share on other sites
X2coasterfreak 0 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 A lot of people are probably going to really dig the changes. I'm glad they're giving this ride some attention. I just liked it the way it was. I don't like having to sound whiny or ungrateful, I'm not. I'm super grateful I got the chance to ride it last season. And maybe the changes will be a net positive, who knows. But clearly what made the ride so unique is changing. Yeah, there aren't very many wooden coasters that are about the laterals anymore. I guess they're just going out of style? Well, Schilke said he wants to bring laterals back, so at least we'll have that. I'd say people generally don't like strong lateral forces, as they do tend to be a bit uncomfortable. However, the RMCs do a great job at making lateral forces enjoyable and thrilling, I definitely hope to see more coasters built with these moments. Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroGravity55 0 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Track is being installed. Looks like the exit out of the turn might have a little GCI airtime. Link to post Share on other sites
jray21 0 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 It will be real interesting to see how this rides. It was a painful ride when I rode it last. Link to post Share on other sites
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