rcdude Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) Any launched coaster can have rollbacks, but they are rare on magnetic launch coasters unless there is a power interruption. LSMs have to be carefully synchronized to the train and are constantly monitored by the computer, so if the speed is off by just a little bit or the computer faults the system will shut down and stop the train. Weight distribution is always a factor and the wing coaster trains have a lot more drag than most launched coasters, so high winds could be a problem, but I'm guessing B&M has limits on both to minimize chances of a rollback (plus I'm not sure how windy Holiday World actually gets). When all this is taken into consideration, and with the speed shown in the testing video, I'm guessing it is very unlikely the ride will ever have a rollback during normal operation. If you had no weight in the front of the train, a lot of weight in the back of the train, and a really strong headwind it would probably happen, but that's mostly a fictional scenario. Edited March 21, 2015 by rcdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Maven Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 This is a good time for me to hop on and let you know if you do happen to see what you think is a rollback on our webcam, it's an intentional half-power warm up as we start testing. Sort of like stretching before exercising ... oh, sorry, bad analogy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayWorldFTW Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Is it weird that I think a rollback would be kinda fun to be on? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glucky11801 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Thanks, Paula! I figured that was what I saw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Maven Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 ^ You are a gentleman and a scholar. We thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickstroberg Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Is it weird that I think a rollback would be kinda fun to be on? Lol  Not at all, I'm pretty sure EVERY SINGLE ENTHUSIAST prays for one each time they're on a launched coaster. At least I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 ^Probably true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayWorldFTW Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Is it weird that I think a rollback would be kinda fun to be on? Lol  Not at all, I'm pretty sure EVERY SINGLE ENTHUSIAST prays for one each time they're on a launched coaster. At least I do  Ahhhh ok thanks! I feel much better now lol. Thought maybe I was just weird! Of course we are all a little weird anyway when it comes to this hobby, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravity55 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 First time using this, but here's a video HW posted on their Facebook. I think going from 0 to 60 is really going to help the launch feel more forceful as opposed to a ride like Helix where the train hits the launch with some speed and doesn't feel quite that forceful. We shall see.. Â [fbvideo] [/fbvideo] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayWorldFTW Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 First time using this, but here's a video HW posted on their Facebook. I think going from 0 to 60 is really going to help the launch feel more forceful as opposed to a ride like Helix where the train hits the launch with some speed and doesn't feel quite that forceful. We shall see.. [fbvideo] [/fbvideo] Woa... That train is really bookin it out of that station! Very impressive. It's amazing how these launched coasters can get up to speed so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&MBoy1982 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I am starting to wonder if I want to do this or Fury 325 first. Â You see, I am at 199 coasters, so this next coaster is very important. Â Should B&M's first launched wing coaster or the worlds tallest Giga coaster be number 200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 ^ The giga will someday be outdated. B&M's first launch will ever be the first launch. #teamThunderbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The "screech" is pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassinthegrass Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 ^^^ I agree, a first is a first... Go with Thunderbird!!! Â Â Can not wait to experience this, as well as the entire park for the first time this JULY!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I can't wait to return here for HoliWood Nights this year. Launching out of the station in the darkness will be an awesome experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeagain? Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Does anyone know what the "chch ... chch ... chch ... chch" noise is as the train is moving in the station? I've heard it on videos of other B&Ms as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravity55 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) ^ I always thought it was the chain dogs, but Thunderbird doesn't have any, so I'm wondering the same thing. Â Paula, I saw where you responded to a comment on FB where you said the height requirement was 52" is for Thunderbird. Did B&M change this since the announcement? For some reason I remember it originally being 54". Edit: Never mind, I dug back through the Holiblog posts. It's always been 52". Â Speaking of height requirements for wing coasters. I find it interesting that X-Flight is 54", Gatekeeper and Thunderbird is 52", and Wild Eagle is 50". Edited March 22, 2015 by ZeroGravity55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillseeker4552 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Does anyone know what the "chch ... chch ... chch ... chch" noise is as the train is moving in the station? I've heard it on videos of other B&Ms as well. Â Silver Bullet a Knott's has this, and since it's an inverted coaster you can see a lot of the track elements. I looked very closely one time and saw that it is these little "notches" that, when lined up with the ones on the track, allow the restraints to unlock. When the train is entering/exiting the station, these chain-dog-like things slide over the ones on the track and make the click noise. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&MBoy1982 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Does anyone know what the "chch ... chch ... chch ... chch" noise is as the train is moving in the station? I've heard it on videos of other B&Ms as well. Â Silver Bullet a Knott's has this, and since it's an inverted coaster you can see a lot of the track elements. I looked very closely one time and saw that it is these little "notches" that, when lined up with the ones on the track, allow the restraints to unlock. When the train is entering/exiting the station, these chain-dog-like things slide over the ones on the track and make the click noise. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is it. Â It is not a chain dog device. The chain dog is just that, a chain dog. Â These are for locking and unlocking restraints on newer B&M's. They also indicate open and closed restraints on all coasters that they have been installed on. Â Kumba and Montu have received these within the last year or so. Your saying that Silver Bullet has them. Are they to the side of the track like this? Â If so, I think it is great that B&M is adding these to the older coasters. One more safety system in place before that train leaves the station. Â The way these work is if a restraint is not locked properly, the train WILL NOT dispatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlaKoaster Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Does anyone know what the "chch ... chch ... chch ... chch" noise is as the train is moving in the station? I've heard it on videos of other B&Ms as well. There are sprung electrical pickups on the train chassis (which looks like a metal comb with blobs on the end), and in line with where each car stops there are some grooves which the comb thing goes through. So when the train comes in as it passes each of these pickups it makes a 'chh' noise, and when the train stops there is an electric and data connection between the station track and the train. Â You can see these on inverted coasters quite easily on the top right (at least on Mk1 inverted coaster trains) of each car. Also if you look at the lights in the hole in back of the seat in front of you, you can see the LED lights coming on/off as the car goes through each pickup as it enters the station. Â I love the noise Nemesis makes because each wheel goes clunk over the join in the transfer track, and then 'chh' over the electrical pickups meaning you get a 'clunk clunk chh, clunk clunk chh, clunk clunk chh..' noise as the train comes in. I know this is the nerdiest thing to say in the history of nerddom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeagain? Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Does anyone know what the "chch ... chch ... chch ... chch" noise is as the train is moving in the station? I've heard it on videos of other B&Ms as well. There are sprung electrical pickups on the train chassis (which looks like a metal comb with blobs on the end), and in line with where each car stops there are some grooves which the comb thing goes through. So when the train comes in as it passes each of these pickups it makes a 'chh' noise, and when the train stops there is an electric and data connection between the station track and the train. Â You can see these on inverted coasters quite easily on the top right (at least on Mk1 inverted coaster trains) of each car. I love the noise Nemesis makes because each wheel goes clunk over the join in the transfer track, and then 'chh' over the electrical pickups meaning you get a 'clunk clunk chh, clunk clunk chh, clunk clunk chh..' noise as the train comes in. I know this is the nerdiest thing to say in the history of nerddom. Â Thanks! I thought it must be something like that but wasn't sure. And I totally get the love for the noise. I love the sound of old Arrow coasters moving from the breaks then parking in the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOfTheWills Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 So what is up with all the semi trailers? They look special. What are they used for? Â They are Cummins generators. Between 1.5MW and 2MW each. Typically used when a planned outage is in the works. Probably work on the new substation. Here's a clicky for more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayWorldFTW Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Hey guys new Holiblog up! Also make sure to click the link to vote for Thunderbird! Right now thunderbird is down by 1%! We can bring that up and help Thunderbird win! Â http://www.holidayworld.com/holiblog/2015/03/22/cry-thunderbird/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayWorldFTW Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Thunderbird is 5% points away from winning! Let's all band together and vote so they can win!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassinthegrass Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 It clicked in my head today...Holiday World (if I am not mistaken) is the only park in the world with free parking and a B&M. It's not a major thing, but it is cool to see a "local" park (per say) that has such a level of coasters at their park!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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