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Aside from having a few rules, they probably provide an excellent education experience.

 

 

Pensacola Christian College.

 

http://www.pcci.edu/

http://www.pensacolachristiancollege.com/rules.htm

 

DRESS CODE:

 

MEN.

 

Pants may not be "pegged" or have any pockets on the legs.

 

Pants may not be "frayed" at the bottom.

 

No jeans, or double-stitched pants.

 

Shirts must be tucked in at all times.

 

Men may not wear a necklace.

 

Hats may only be worn outdoors, but NOT at outdoor sporting events.

 

You must wear a belt at all times.

 

You must wear "dress" shoes except when involved in athletic activity.

 

You must wear a collared shirt except when involved in athletic activity.

 

No apparel with other colleges or high-schools is allowed.

 

T-shirts must be blank or be an official PCC T-shirt.

 

You may not shave your head (Caucasian students only; it is unclear how this is to be interpreted for Asian-Americans/Indian-Americans. All we can suggest is to consult your floorleader). Violation will result in being sent home for two weeks (your expense).

 

"Shelf Cuts," hair touching the ears, sideburns past the middle of the ear, bangs over the eyes, and hair touching the collar are not allowed.

 

No blue-jean (denim) shirts or jackets.

 

No "dressing down" - that is, intentionally mismatching clothes.

 

Clothing may not have advertising or large logos on it.

 

You must wear socks.

 

Except for collegian sports, men must wear "dress sweats" for any athletic activity where women are present.

 

A swimming suit/shorts may not be worn while traveling to the beach, although there are no changing rooms at the men's required beach.

 

WOMEN.

 

Women must wear a skirt or dress at all times. Jean skirts are allowed at dating outings only. Long shorts (i.e., "gauchos" or "culottes") which reach the knee are permitted for athletic activity.

Skirts/Dresses must reach the top of the knee when sitting.

 

Women must wear nylons ("hose") with skirts, but may wear socks with shorts.

 

You may not wear pants in your dorm, although sweats ARE permitted after prayer group.

 

All skirts must be knee length and shirts must not be subjectively "low-cut."

 

No two-piece swimming suits (although, this is a bit irrelevant since a male should never see you swimming).

 

All neck lines must be modest.

 

No backless shoes or dresses.

 

Flannel shirts must be tucked in.

 

DORM RULES:

 

It should be noted that at any time, the administration (or students authorized by the administration) may go through your room, unannounced, looking for anything unauthorized. Legally or not, this will include opening drawers and going through paperwork. You may or may not be present, and you may or may not be notified.

 

Your room must be cleaned to a subjective degree every morning for room check.

 

If you are still in bed you may receive demerits for not having your bed made (although it is acceptable to make your bed, go back to sleep on top of the made bed while your floorleader is checking room jobs, and then crawl back under the covers after the floorleader exits the room. However, you must wait until the floorleader crosses the threshold before actually beginning to "crawl" back under the covers).

 

On weekdays, there are "quiet hours," during which you may not talk in the hall, close doors loudly, or sing in the shower.

 

After bed-time ("lights out:" 11:00 every day, including weekends) you may receive demerits for talking, taking your contacts out, having your feet on the floor (or possibly suspended a few inches from the floor), being in the bathroom, or basically doing anything but lying in bed.

 

No local calls over 30 minutes.

 

No extra studying during exams.

 

No lights, computers, stereos, or other appliances left on when the room is empty.

 

Wall decorations (posters, etc) must be hung by pinning them from string to the corner of the wall and ceiling. There is no officially approved adhesive or "sticky tack."

 

You may not have: television, personal stereo (walkman), microwave, fans, skillets, hot plate, coffee pot, electric blanket, extra furniture, or a living pet (also presumably includes a "dead" pet - not clear whether this includes pet rocks or plants) of any kind.

 

Hot pots and popcorn poppers must be used in the laundry room.

 

Liquid bleach and oven cleaner may not be used to clean.

 

Any unused mattresses in a room must be covered with sheets, apparently provided by you.

 

You may not put up a picture of unmarried people in physical contact unless they are "little kids." (these are sold in the bookstore).

 

You must wear a shirt in the halls (men and women) and may not wear shorts in the lounges at any time.

 

You may not go bare-foot in the halls or lounge.

 

You may not sing "too loud" during prayer group.

 

The blinds in your room must be closed after dusk.

 

You may not open your window.

 

You may not adjust your thermostat.

 

You may not wipe "boogers" on the wall. This is being cracked down on.

 

OFF CAMPUS RULES:

 

As stated in the Student Handbook, leaving campus is a "privilege;" one which the administration will revoke as they see fit.

 

Students must return to campus by 10:00 p.m. every night, including weekends.

A student must "scan out" at the campus computers, notifying the school of exactly where he intends to go off-campus.

 

If the intended destination is not listed on the computer, the student must obtain a permission pass from various staff at designated times. This is also applicable if you wish to leave campus on a Sunday.

 

You may not go to Cordova Mall after 5:00 p.m.

 

There are a myriad of restaurants the students are not allowed to go to, although faculty and staff frequent them (more specifics on campus).

 

Freshmen/Sophomore women must leave campus in groups of three or more. Junior/Senior women, in groups of 2.

 

No more than twenty students may meet off-campus without specific permission.

 

Males and Females are to use separate public beaches and may not go to the popular Pensacola Beach or to the nearby Boardwalk.

 

You may not go to a public library.

 

You may not go onto the campus of any other college in the Pensacola area.

 

Women are not allowed to hold off campus jobs. (All school jobs during the year pay minimum wage or below)

 

MEDIA:

 

A large amount of magazines are considered pornography and are not allowed, including: Men's Health, Muscle&Fitness, Cosmopolitan, Vogue, etc.

 

The Publishers Clearing House contest application has a sticker for Playboy and is not allowed

 

The BMG or Columbia House music club catalogs are not allowed

 

Music is limited to classical, hymns, accepted "new age" and instrumental, and that distinctive "PCC sound."

 

No "paraphenelia" (posters, books, stickers, etc) associated with "non-passing" media is allowed in your dorm, on your person, or in your car.

 

You may recieve demerits for having your radio tuned to a "non-passing" radio station, even if you have not touched the dial since you were home.

 

SOCIAL INTERACTION

 

No student is allowed to talk or otherwise interact with another student of the opposite sex outside of a "chaperoned" area. It does not matter if they are alone or among hundreds of students if it is not an "official" chaperoned area.

 

FOR INSTANCE, consider these. . . .

 

You may not interact with a student of the opposite sex in any way off-campus without prior approval and an approved chaperone.

 

Men may not give their suit jacket to their date.

 

Each gender must use segregated stairways, elevators and in some cases, sidewalks.

 

There is to be no physical contact between students of the opposite sex, except perhaps on some "dating outings," where hand-holding games are played.

 

The official rule on "indirect contact" is unknown. It is much talked about, but unevenly enforced. This includes such things as tugging on a coat, poking with a pencil, etc.

 

Siblings of the opposite sex should not interact in unchaperoned areas to abstain from the "appearance of evil."

 

"It is proper, although not required, for a young man to give a corsage to his date and for a young lady to give a boutonniere. It is not appropriate for plants, fruit, stuffed animals, and other such items to be brought to Fine Arts programs."

 

MISCELLANEOUS:

 

There is to be NO. . .

 

 

Playing of instruments (of any kind) in your room, or outside. The only place to play on campus is in the practice rooms.

 

Possession of an electric guitar or amplifier.

 

Taking part in a collegian meeting other than your own.

 

Automotive repair on campus.

 

Horseplay. This is completely subjective and can be for anything from loudness to throwing a pillow.

 

"Indirect Horseplay." This appears to be watching "horseplay" from a distance without doing anything to stop it/being entertained by it.

 

"Obscene" language. This includes the terms "suck" or "sucks."

 

Finally there is IMPROPER PROCEDURE, which is a catch-all for anything you do which they don't want you to do, but hadn't thought of making it a rule yet.

 

The school has an active Anti-"Tax Rebel" stand and will report anyone who they feel is breaking the tax laws of the country. They will also prevent any student from associating with anyone they feel has an anti-taxation stance

 

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Things you won't do during your college experience if you go to PCC:

* Stay up all night in a heated discussion about theology.

* Take a moonlight walk on the beach.

* Get together with a bunch of friends (girls and guys) for a barbecue.

* Go to the county fair.

* Research any controversial authors.

* Hold a meaningful student government position.

* Work on a campus newsletter.

* Get up before 5:30.

* Have a spring break.

* Spend Thanksgiving at home.

* Form a band.

* Get a job at the Gap (girls).

* Rent a video.

* Own a fish.

* See the end of a Monday Night Football game.

* Sit on the steps outside your dorm and play a harmonica.

* Have a three-day weekend.

* Open the window on a nice day.

* Have Pizza delivered.

* Lock your door.

* Have a water-fight.

* Pick at the guitar while sitting on your bed.

* Go to a church with less than 5000 people.

* Listen to Rich Mullins.

* Go to the drive-in.

* Take a girl out to eat.

* Read a Superman comic.

* Laugh too loud.

* Check the answering machine.

* Turn up your stereo.

* Wear Birkenstocks.

* Go on a road trip.

* Surf the internet.

* Be given the benefit of the doubt.

 

The bolded ones are more ones that I laughed at than anything else.

 

I can't help but laughing at the expense of this college. But what do you think of this? Are these people crazy or is this justified in some way?

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Seriously, wow. WTF? I think they pretty much listed, even the little things that you wouldn't think to be controversial or go against their values. The bigger problem is they seem to want to shelter adults from the outside world. I could understand some of this if this was for children, but adults... I'm speechless (other than thoughts that would not be appropriate to post here). In other words, I wouldn't set foot near this school. There's probably a Christian college with similar policies somewhere down in Colorado Springs too. That's the one place in America extreme enough for something like this to exist and nobody really think anything else of it.

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I know of a couple of Christian Colleges who have some type of dress code some what like this, but man, they really went all out on the no fun section. I mean, different sidewalks? And most people at my church wouldn't think twice about dating as being bad. Just wow. I know they think that this is the best way to "protect" (loose quotations) the students from temptation, but I think that's a bit too much. And it irks me that the won't let Christian students discuss theology Just...wow..

 

So my answer is no. I would not go there nor send my future children there.

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I went to the site and it says wireless internet in every room. And you cannot use it.

 

And they cannot discuss theology.

 

These people need to get lives. Each and every one of em. Have a playboy magazine photoshoot here and learn about things that these freaks would never show you!

 

This place breaks the Constitution in at least 12 ways. Freedom of religion (must be Christian, go to a church with no less than 5000 members every Sunday!), Press, Petition, Speech, Illegal search and seizure, Segregation of races, Seg. of sexes(diff. sidewalks, elevators, and public beaches), Little to none privacy, No individuality, and Freedom of clothes should be in the Constitution. The list goes on forever...

 

However, they seem to indirectly support homosexuality...

 

I probably won't have children to protect them from this.

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Something about that list seems unbelievable. After reading that, it seems more like a college someone made up to be in a drama rather than a real college. I know there are real christian colleges with ridicoulous rules like the ones on the list, but some of the stuff on the list just seems unbelievable. Such as

It should be noted that at any time, the administration (or students authorized by the administration) may go through your room, unannounced, looking for anything unauthorized. Legally or not, this will include opening drawers and going through paperwork. You may or may not be present, and you may or may not be notified.
Somehow, I just find it hard to believe that any college's rules would go against the law without ending up with some big lawsuit.
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Some of these policies are just so far out that I wonder if the school added these to the website for April fools day and never took them down. Doubtful, but it seems like this would be hard to get away with in America without serious legal problems, and in the end if the enforcement would be worth the trouble.

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^^^It was a joke. They'd probably kick you out and go against the law by doing so. Discrimination of orientation. And there'd be a big lawsuit about it, too.

 

EDIT: On the site it state that they will be forced to hire homosexuals if they cannot find instructors who are straight. That IS ILLEGAL to give straight people the upper hand! I will hate this place forever.

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The rules seem to be out of date by 13 years. The site pictures kids violating their own rules of dress, behavior, and standards. To quote Ned Flanders "I do the stuff that even contradicts the other stuff!"

 

Looking up more info and found a good article on wikipedia

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensacola_Christian_College

 

Personally I don't care if someone wants to go to a college that thinks it's ok to illegally go through your stuff, cut off freedom of speech, and play games with your personal and professional life. I DO care that they pass themselves off as a legitimate higher education establishment when they are in fact not accredited because of their insane filtering and anti-discussion rules. That hurts my degree from a legitimate university.

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Checked out the wikipedia article.

 

new expansion to the Arlin R. Horton Sports Center called the Sports Center Annex was completed and opened in the fall of 2009. This new annex features a full indoor water park equipped with water slides that range in length from 185 ft to 250 ft, a Double Flow Rider surfing wave, a 500 gallon dump bucket and water cannons. In addition the new annex includes a 337 ft inline skating track, additional racquetball courts, fitness rooms, a roof top sun deck, "The Hut" a snack bar for participant refreshment, and the largest indoor climbing wall in the nation boasting a 15,000 sq-ft 60 ft tall climbing wall with 3000 artificial hand holds as well as natural cracks and crevices. [11]

 

That is pretty awesome for a college to have an indoor water park with a flow rider.

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Didn't say anything about not doing lines of coke off a hooker's A$$, so I think they're cool with it.

 

Doubtful....

 

Finally there is IMPROPER PROCEDURE, which is a catch-all for anything you do which they don't want you to do, but hadn't thought of making it a rule yet.
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This place breaks the Constitution in at least 12 ways. Freedom of religion (must be Christian, go to a church with no less than 5000 members every Sunday!), Press, Petition, Speech, Illegal search and seizure, Segregation of races, Seg. of sexes(diff. sidewalks, elevators, and public beaches), Little to none privacy, No individuality, and Freedom of clothes should be in the Constitution. The list goes on forever...

 

Not sure if there are 12 different violations, but I count at least one major one in regards to the 4th Amendment. Much of the stuff you mentioned wouldn't be a problem because it is a private school, so it's more difficult for them to interfere with Constitutional Rights.

 

Just reading the rules, the way I feel about it is that it would have to be a personal choice of the student to go. I personally couldn't imgaine going somewhere like that, but it might be right for some people.

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They're giving away a year of school for free so my guess is that they'er having trouble getting people to enroll (according to the website).

 

Personally I wouldn't apply there, but if my kids wanted to go, I'm not stopping them from going. Of course I would prefer my future kids to go to college in state. Reading the rules and the school's position on Wikipedia and on the official website, it seems like a very conservative school which woudn't work for me.

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Since this is a private school, they can get away with all of the rules without breaking the constitution. I agree with Elissa that it is scary that this is real, but those who go to this school do it by choice.

 

Not totally true, there are generally limits to even what private companies can do. The issue of the illegal searches (if they're illegal, frankly I don't know enough about them) is the one however that I could see the court having issue over.

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I went to a relatively expensive (though Liberal) Christian private college and one of the girls I knew there transferred to Pensacola because she was given a full ride. I remember her coming to visit and her telling us some of the horror stories about her school. I don't know how she (or anybody) does it! Her biggest issue was how people were treated when they sinned. She felt that rather than loving them and trying to hep them, they were shamed. I remember her getting demerits or something for helping a male student that had fallen off his bike and was having a seizure and being caught at a PG 13 movie!

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Is this for real? By the time I got to the part where students weren't allowed to even open windows, I was laughing, expecting that this was surely a joke.

 

But if it's true--that people as backward, hypocritical, discriminatory, sexist and terrified of reality as those who created these rules actually exist is frightening. That students would willingly follow such rules is even scarier. Those who attend this college do so by choice, and I fully support having the ability to choose one's college--it's just that once you get to this place, it seems freedom of choice in most other life matters evaporates. These rules, if real, are a slap in the face not only to the basic freedoms of the Constitution, but to simple human dignity.

 

That being said, I'd be curious to hear testimonies from students living this lifestyle to see if it's really as archaic as it seems.

 

 

I'm going to open a window now because I can.

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^^I dunno that I'd call these rules a slap in the face to basic freedoms. I get your point, but they're willingly rescinding many rights/privileges to maximize their own college experience. Honestly, I was reminded of my friends at the Air Force Academy as I read the rules. Obviously, this school is more suffocating and restrictive in most aspects of social life (and yes, is driven by different motives), but there are similarities (requiring persmission to leave campus, strict dress code, enforced curfews/wake-up times, etc).

 

Personally, it's way too much for me, and there's no way I'd survive with the rigid structure, either at this school or a military academy. But I have different views of what my college experience should be. I think the restrictions are messed up, but I know several kids who would likely flounder and fail with the independence and freedoms at a "normal" school like my OSU (and I know a few who already have). It's just a matter of what works for you and what the individual needs to succeed. AFA and PCC would not work for me at all. But then again, neither do the JoBros or tomatoes, so I can't say my preferences are universal.

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^^I dunno that I'd call these rules a slap in the face to basic freedoms. I get your point, but they're willingly rescinding many rights/privileges to maximize their own college experience. Honestly, I was reminded of my friends at the Air Force Academy as I read the rules. Obviously, this school is more suffocating and restrictive in most aspects of social life (and yes, is driven by different motives), but there are similarities (requiring persmission to leave campus, strict dress code, enforced curfews/wake-up times, etc).

 

Personally, it's way too much for me, and there's no way I'd survive with the rigid structure, either at this school or a military academy. But I have different views of what my college experience should be. I think the restrictions are messed up, but I know several kids who would likely flounder and fail with the independence and freedoms at a "normal" school like my OSU (and I know a few who already have). It's just a matter of what works for you and what the individual needs to succeed. AFA and PCC would not work for me at all. But then again, neither do the JoBros or tomatoes, so I can't say my preferences are universal.

 

There's a difference between having a strict social rule set and being bat shit insane. I mean, really, allowing kids to write up other students, allowing anyone to come into your room and demand the bed to be made even if you're in it, etc. It's crazy.

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^I agree that the regulations are excessive, and probably motivated by some questionable rationale. But it's not all that different. RAs are essentially students that govern other students, and the scholarship house I lived in freshman year had a very similar room search rule (anytime, minimal cause necessary), albeit without the "legal or not" phrase (still at Ohio State). And at military schools, being able to sleep on your bed after it's made would be unheard of. You're typically up and at PT by then anyway.

 

Trust me, I'm not saying I agree with what they're doing. Like I said, there's not a chance I'd as much as open one of their brochures. I don't get it, I don't see the appeal. Obviously, like you and everyone else who's commented, I'm not their target audience.

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What a night I am having. First I was watching "The Island" (mainly because Scarlett Johansson is in it) and now I see this school that's basically depriving its students of any human rights other than breathing (though you can't open a window). The dean must be hitler and the president must be my eighth grade math teacher who gave everyone she saw a detention (including me which was the only detention that I have ever gotten) out of spite... the world sucks sometimes doesn't it?

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^I wonder if you had the same math teacher I do now. You just perfectly described her. She must be Hitler's widow.

 

This school needs to figure out that the people attending the college are adults, not 6 year old little girls.

 

EDIT: Scratch that. 6 year old girls can make choices and decisions for themselves.

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