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Fun fact: The highest ridership the park ever achieved with Ka was during the the 2013 season with only one station and three trains.

El Toro Ryan (who worked the ride) talks about it extensively in his excellent Problematic Coaster video about Ka. 

I recommend checking out the entire video (and all his other vids) but skip to around 17:40 for the goods about the station/capacity.

 

 

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Yeah I don't think the second station added as much as they hoped. 

Also, on ElToroRyan, his channel is the most jarring in terms of disconnected theme park content of any that I follow. One video will be his friends making a ton of low brow jokes as they wander a park drunk, the next will be this highly technical breakdown of a rollercoaster from his ride op experience and engineering background. It is a weird channel. 

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On 9/4/2021 at 6:52 PM, michaellynn4 said:

It probably had to do with the change in management right after the '05 season. Remember, El Toro was almost cancelled by the new management team. Only reason why we have it was because they were already too far along in the process to reverse course.

15 years later and I'm still annoyed when I think of all the things done to the park by RedZone. They had rides SBNO like Houdini, Tango and kids rides and then over the 2006 - 2007 offseason the removal of Movietown Water Effect, Freefall, the 2nd log flume and I think another ride or two.  Removing the safari included with admission for day tickets and seriously considering a no re-entry policy (it was on their website) but they got so many complaints they decided against it. I was so happy to see them gone.

 

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Did anyone go to the park sponsored event last Saturday 9/4? It used to be "Riding of the Bull" the Saturday after Labor Day sponsored by a local coaster group. Without El Toro out, it had to change. I normally go to this event, but Labor Day weekend, really?? It didn't seem very organized, and not worth my cross country trip. Just curious. ...

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1 hour ago, coasternut said:

Did anyone go to the park sponsored event last Saturday 9/4? It used to be "Riding of the Bull" the Saturday after Labor Day sponsored by a local coaster group. Without El Toro out, it had to change. I normally go to this event, but Labor Day weekend, really?? It didn't seem very organized, and not worth my cross country trip. Just curious. ...

I personally wasn’t able to go but have seen several people comment on Facebook that the Thrill-A-Thon event went well and that it was a lot of fun. This was the first time that the park ran the event and I’m sure they will continue to improve it moving forward.  I’m glad the park is expanding the event to include more groups similar to Coastermania and other park operated events. 

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anyone else in pain on Jersey devil? 
 

I’m tall, I’m fatter, but fit on every other coaster model just fine. Rode Jersey devil yesterday for the first time, and the way you have to sit, chicken legged or whatever with your feet 4 feet apart and your knees bending in put so much pressure on the joint / ligaments below my knees it was the worst pain ever and swear something was going to snap in my leg

I tried sitting various ways and thought I figured it out until the ops make you put feet flat on the black section of the car and not the red angled part of the car that goes over the track 

So my question is: anyone else with this knee pain?  Will losing weight did this (always working on it), or is this due to just being taller at 6’3? Or do I just have weak knee/leg ligaments and joints?

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https://www.nj.com/news/2021/09/woman-injured-on-tube-slide-at-six-flags-hurricane-harbor-water-park.html

Woman injured on tube slide at Six Flags’ Hurricane Harbor water park

A patron of the Hurricane Harbor water park that’s part of the Six Flags Great Adventure complex in Jackson was injured on a water slide Monday afternoon thanks to another rider’s mischief, a park spokesperson said.

The patron, described only as “an adult guest,” complained of pain following a ride on one of the park’s tube slides, when “the guest’s tube overturned as a result of another guest jumping out of the tube, which is a violation of the park’s safety policies,” Kristin Fitzgerald, a spokesperson for the park, said in an email.

Fitzgerald said the injured patron was taken to a local hospital by the park’s own ambulance service, though police assigned to the park responded to the incident.

Capt. Steve Laskiewicz, a Jackson Police spokesman, said the department was not involved. Fitzgerald declined to offer additional details of the patron’s injury or condition, citing confidentiality rules under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, or HIPAA. “The safety of our guests and team members is our top priority,” Fitzgerald said in the email. The Asbury Park Press reported that the woman had been on the 75-foot-high Tornado slide. The Tornado sends patrons down a long tunnel at about 25 miles an hour, before they enter into a broad funnel.

The Great Adventure theme park adjacent to Hurricane Harbor has been beset by more than a dozen incidents this summer, some of them involving in injuries, while a partial derailment of a car on El Toro shut down the steep wooden roller coaster on June 29.

 

 

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I haven't been on Jersey Devil, but rode Wonder Woman Golden Lasso a bunch of times in one day at SFFT.  At 6' 2"  225 lbs, I didn't have any knee pain even though my knees aren't in the best shape due to excessive wear and tear when I was younger.  However, I'm pretty sure I remember reading at least one review of WWGL where the person found the straddle position was very uncomfortable.  My only issue was sore and bruised shoulders from the shoulder straps.  The forces on WWGL are surprisingly strong, and I started feeling the soreness after about six rides during the first half of the day.  Another six rides throughout the rest of the day and I was left with visible shoulder strap bruises that lasted for 2-3 days.  Perhaps shorter people don't have that problem?   

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1 minute ago, SharkTums said:

^Do yourself a favor and stay far away from the others! Those trains are even more like SAW death traps!!!

Haha I had plans to go to Texas and California next year which is why I asked.  They will be ‘first time last time’ rides most likely which is unfortunate because I see this stupid cheap single rail model popping up everywhere in the near future and I am thinking I won’t be able to enjoy them at all (Jersey devil was this way for me) 

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For what its worth, I have ridden JDC exactly once and was with two friends who both complained about the seats/restraints being awkward/uncomfortable, while I had no issues whatsoever. Its worth noting am the largest of the three, both in height/weight so I'm not sure if that factors into the issue at all. 

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We went to Great Adventure last month while Jersey Devil was down, but we still tried out the test seat as we went back and looked at the ride. I have absolutely no doubt that it would have been one of the most uncomfortable rides I've been on as it was tough to just sit in the test seat. I've had bad hips since I was in high school playing football, and the way that your legs have to be apart while riding looked like it would have made me miserable while riding. Just trying to board in a semi-quick fashion would have been a chore, I think.

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Rode JD about 5 times and only the second time was it terrible.  Felt like i get stabbed in the left thigh and knife was twisting the entire ride.  Couldnt wait for it to end.  Dont know what it was about that time but every other time was great.  Maybe something about the feet placement.  I'm also a bigger guy but it only happened the one time.

 

 

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With this single-rail RMC talk (positive and negative), it makes me even MORE curious about Intamin's upcoming single-rail coaster "Big Dipper" coming soon to Luna Park in Australia.  I wonder how Intamin's version will compare?  It looks like you might still have a similar "straddle position" like a single rail RMC?   However, it also looks like (if the animation is accurate) it might just have lap restraints with nothing else over the shoulders?  If so, then that's a welcome improvement! 

 

 

 

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I honestly think the raptor trains could be way better, too. I'm 5'10 and slim build, so I think it depends on your torso/leg length. I also had to kind of angle my knees oddly outward to get the restraint to go down to my lap. I don't like either version but I guess I'd prefer the JDC ones over the Wonder Woman ones. I had these weird random bruises from the restraints the day after.

I think restraints/trains are RMC's weakest point just in general. I wish they'd just buy from Gerstlauer because the TX Giant/Iron Rattler ones are the best/most comfortable trains of them all.

On 9/5/2021 at 11:47 AM, AngusW said:

As for El Toro, it’s actually still in park’s hands as they have not finished retracking yet and have not even asked state to reopen as this needs to be done first. Getting dangerously close to the point where the maintenance team (who want to push reopening till 2022) will not be able to finish before FF is done. 

I feel like I'm screaming into the void asking about El Toro in this topic and I feel like I shouldn't be so committed since I live like 1,000 miles away...but so like are they re-tracking the entire coaster? If they are I honestly love that because I remember riding it in 2006/2007 and it was seriously as smooth as any Intamin steel coaster. And if they need until the beginning of next season to do that and get it done right I'm all for that too.

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I got two rides on Jersey Devil and found the seat so uncomfortable and cheap feeling that I thought I didn't like the coaster. Thankfully I loved my second ride, but those trains are bad. Well, the seats anyway. The trains are beautiful to look at at least.

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While I've never been on a Raptor, I have been on a handful of RMC coasters and I feel like I keep hearing complaints about the trains and restraints across the board.  Hopefully this will incentivize them to either redesign or outsource their trains because wow you people are vocal about it.

Personally I've never felt uncomfortable in an RMC train (again, haven't tried a Raptor yet) and I'm 6'3" 230lbs.  They're not what I would call comfy but they're solidly mediocre trains and restraints that get the job done.

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I'm 6'-2", 225 lb., with long legs. On Raptor trains, my legs tend to cramp up if the harness is tight enough to push my legs down. That was the only pain/discomfort I had on those rides.

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The very first time I rode Jersey Devil earlier this year (also the first time I rode a Raptor), as soon as I sat down, my left thigh immediately got a charlie horse, which was pretty painful, and didn't let off the whole ride through the station, until after putting pressure on my foot for a while, it ebbed away just before we climbed the lift hill. The subsequent two times we rode at the end of the day, I didn't experience this. So, I don't know if it was because it was first thing in the day, and my legs weren't stretched out yet, or what. But that was my experience.

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So two things...

1. At least two of you have now mentioned having pain/cramping on just one leg, not both. I dunno, I don't see how that could be an issue with the restraint, sounds like a personal problem.

2. Do y'all ever stretch before a park day? If you don't, some advice: you should. Like as if you were going to work out. I'd legit always done this early in the morning before walking a shi*ton and getting thrown the eff around on a bunch of crazy rides.

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My knees are in rough shape at this point and crack every time I stand up, but RailBlazer didn't bother me one bit after several re-rides. I know it's not JDC, but it's similar enough where I have to believe it's a personal / body type issue, rather than the seats themselves. 

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I rode Railblazer 16 times in one day and the only pain I had was the bruises on my shoulders. I recall it being a little awkward at first but no pain or discomfort in my legs. I'm an average size adult male though, 5'9" 180 lbs.

I also don't mind other RMC seats/restraints though. Steel Vengeance will start hurting my shins after 10 rides or so, but that's it.

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