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4 hours ago, jray21 said:

We are headed to SFGA in a couple of weeks and had a quick question about Gold vs. Platinum Flash Pass.  I know how they work, and the time differences, but how are the merge points there?  I've been to some parks where the merge point was very close to the loading area so it was virtually walk ons all day.  I've also been to some parks that the merge points were further back and it would still take 20-30 minutes, so the platinum didn't really make a difference since you could just reserve the next ride after the merge and 20-30 minutes later your gold pass ride would be ready.  

I haven't gotten FP at this park in ages just because its close and I do things like yesterday where we got there super early, rode a couple things, sat and ate/drank for an hour, then rode a few more things and left mid-afternoon, but I'm here often enough so I should know this stuff. Let's see how I do...

Nitro, Bizarro, Batman, Runaway Mine Train and JDC have their own dedicated FP stairs and dump you into the station.
Ka,  Superman and Toro both merge a little bit before the station stairs/ramp but its usually not too much longer than ^ these unless its slammed and the merge attendant is doing a crappy job pulsing the line.
Zum & Wonder Woman don't have stairs but their FP lines dump you into the station for Zum and loading area for WW.
Skull Mountains FP line is up the exit.
Jokers is when they split to each side but again, if the merge attendant is pulsing properly the wait is minimal from this point in my experience.
The Dark Knight I honestly forget how they do FP here.
Don't ask me about Green Lantern, its been at least 5 years since I've ridden it. I feel like the merge point is before the stairs, hopefully someone else will clarify for me.

I think that's everything. Unless its just flat out insanely packed (like yesterday) Gold usually gets the job done.
 

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1 hour ago, boldikus said:

Nitro, Bizarro, Batman, Runaway Mine Train and JDC have their own dedicated FP stairs and dump you into the station.

True except for RMT; on that one you go up the exit.
 

1 hour ago, boldikus said:

Ka,  Superman and Toro both merge a little bit before the station stairs/ramp but its usually not too much longer than ^ these unless its slammed and the merge attendant is doing a crappy job pulsing the line.

True except for Ka, this year they moved the flash pass line to the steps on the left side of the station, and there's no merge at all anymore.
 

1 hour ago, boldikus said:

Skull Mountains FP line is up the exit.

They changed it this year and now the Flash Pass entrance is its own dedicated entrance to the left of that building with the claw games, and it will let you right into the station near row 1.
 

1 hour ago, boldikus said:

The Dark Knight I honestly forget how they do FP here.

Merge point before the pre-show.

 

1 hour ago, boldikus said:

Don't ask me about Green Lantern, its been at least 5 years since I've ridden it. I feel like the merge point is before the stairs, hopefully someone else will clarify for me.

Absolutely right.

You can also use it at Justice League and it completely bypasses most of the queue and preshow and dumps you right onto the loading platform. For the Big Wheel, you enter through the exit. Skyscreamer has its own queue for Flash Pass and they will pull from that queue first when loading. There's a few other flats as well that are on there like Buccaneer, Cyborg, and Twister but I honestly can't remember what those ones are like.

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Glad you had fun!

Jersey Devil is a blast. I can’t believe it’s at Great Adventure. The lineup is just totally stacked.

Flash Pass at Great Adventure is kind of like Cedar Point’s Fastlane. Some rides, it’s amazing. Other rides it helps but only so much. Kingda Ka and Wonder Woman come to mind as rides where it can back up a lot, El Toro has that potential but it depends on the day. Nitro is usually awesome unless it’s just stupid, stupid packed.

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On 7/5/2021 at 12:13 PM, boldikus said:

Current Toro status 

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Also just raced a Ka train on Zum and what an upgrade that is.

Great pics.   Looks like the park  will have el  Toro open very soon.  Been hearing maintenance  has been non stop all over the track and ride.  

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Yeah not so sure about "very soon"

https://www.nj.com/ocean/2021/07/rear-wheels-moved-out-of-position-in-six-flags-roller-coaster-derailment-report-finds.html

A Department of Community Affairs incident report obtained by NJ Advance Media shed some more light on what happened when a train on the El Toro rollercoaster at Six Flags Great Adventure partially derailed last week.

The ride remained shut down this week as officials continued to probe what caused the incident.

However, the report contained more details about what happened last week at the Jackson amusement park.

On June 29 at 4:23 p.m., a train on the El Toro ride failed to return to the station after it stopped a few yards before the “brake run” and the ride was locked down three minutes later before it was cleared at 4:45 p.m., the report stated.

Video of the incident posted to YouTube showed a train of six empty cars stopped on the tracks just ahead of an incline. People were on the ride during the mishap, but a spokeswoman for the Jackson theme park, Kristin Fitzgerald, said no guests were hurt and said the carts did not derail.

While the ride was in motion, the rear wheels of “Car A6″ of the train “came out of their normal position on the rails,” according to the report. It was unclear exactly when this happened but the train traveled most of the ride with the wheels in this position.

During the ride, an axle of the vehicle damaged its rear wheel assembly, as well as the wood and steel bolts of the track, officials said.

The report stated that the cause of the partial derailment had not yet been identified and that a “detailed track gauge and track steel inspection” was still in the works.

“El Toro will not reopen until DCA is provided with a report by the ride manufacturer indicating what caused the derailment as well as how to mitigate the issue,” DCA spokeswoman Lisa Ryan said last week.

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5 hours ago, boldikus said:

the carts did not derail.

While the ride was in motion, the rear wheels of “Car A6″ of the train “came out of their normal position on the rails,”

The report stated that the cause of the partial derailment had not yet been identified and that a “detailed track gauge and track steel inspection” was still in the works.

“El Toro will not reopen until DCA is provided with a report by the ride manufacturer indicating what caused the derailment

Sure sounds like it derailed.  The wheels were no longer on the rails.  De-railed.  It didn't come completely off the track but this is still, quite literally, a derail.  They even say it three times after denying it.

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"The cart did not derail." - Six Flags

"What happened then?" - World

"The rear wheels came up off the track." - Six Flags

"So, they derailed?" - World

"No." - Six Flags

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Unfortunate news with El Toro, esp that I finally am not just back in NJ but working. Really pains me to go here without Toro but I assume it'll be down for a while, understandably so, prob gunna just bite the bullet and go sometime. What can ya do? 

Also are there really attempts to say it didn't derail? Yo, the wheels went off the track, it derailed lol I get why Six Flags will try to say not but c'mon man. Not good, just glad no one was hurt. 

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The park hasn't released any info about Toro, so anything you hear is just hearsay. I've heard back-up-in-a-month to not-til-next-season. Either way, it most definitely will not be open Friday.

JDC possibly, but I'd temper your expectations and assume it will be closed, that way if it is operating it will be a pleasant surprise.

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I was planning to visit the park Thursday while visiting my relatives in New Jersey, and with the Jersey Devil downtime news, pushed my visit back as far as I could, until Monday. So here's hoping, and fingers crossed, that'll it'll be up and running by then! 🙏🤞 Regardless, none of my kids have ever been to the park, so there will still be plenty for them to do there that'll be brand new!

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There is a new(er) statement from the park going around, not sure if its cool to share the direct source but w/ some quick sleuthing you should easily find it. No other news that we haven't heard yet is mentioned in the article, and its possible she said this just so people stop asking, but its slightly encouraging?

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Kristen Fitzgerald, a spokesperson for Six Flags Great Adventure responded on July 13 to our inquiry regarding when we are likely to see El Toro reopened saying, "The safety of our guests and team members is always our highest priority. The ride is currently closed for a thorough inspection and any necessary modifications. El Toro is one of our signature attractions, and we are working diligently toward reopening the ride this season following testing and a full safety inspection by both internal and external experts."

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Anyone who thought that this park wasn't at-least attempting to reopen the ride ASAP this season doesn't know them very well. I feel like every time a ride has a major breakdown at Great Adventure it reopens faster than anyone expects it to.

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https://www.nj.com/news/2021/07/2-rides-temporarily-shut-down-in-latest-six-flags-incidents.html

After two incidents raised red flags at Six Flags Great Adventure last month, a pair of roller coasters at the popular thrill park were temporarily shut down this week following separate complaints that a young boy was injured Wednesday on The Joker and a safety bar had come unfastened Sunday on Nitro.

Great Adventure confirmed that The Joker had been shut down temporarily on Wednesday following a report that a young boy had suffered a head injury and was taken by the park’s in-house ambulance service to be checked out at a local hospital.

Six Flags said its own personnel and inspectors from the state Department of Community Affairs had done, “full inspections of the ride and found it to be in proper working order,” and that The Joker reopened on Thursday.

“We are unable to speculate as to the cause of the reported injury,” the statement read.

Denise Zeiger, a 53-year-old Six Flags season pass holder, was at the park with her daughter and 7-year-old grandson on Wednesday, when she said she saw the boy, whose head was bandaged, being taken from The Joker and placed into a nearby ambulance.

“This poor mother was distraught,” said Zeiger, who lives in Bristol, Pennsylvania. “My heart broke for her, and I just said, ‘I hope everything’s OK.’ And she just said, ‘I don’t even know yet.’”

The park also confirmed that it temporarily suspended operation of its Nitro roller coaster on Sunday, after a complaint that a restraining bar had unfastened. But as in The Joker’s case, Six Flags said the ride was found to be operating properly.

“On Sunday, the ride was closed following a guest concern about a lap bar on one train,” the park stated. “All three coaster trains were thoroughly inspected by our maintenance team and found to be in proper working order. The ride was reopened with the other two trains. A DCA ride inspector reviewed the final train on Monday and found it to be in proper working order. The ride has been operating as designed with all three trains since Monday.”

This week’s incidents follow two others at the Jackson Township thrill park, including a June 29 partial derailment on the El Toro roller coaster, and a June 13 mishap on the Saw Mill log flume ride. On El Toro, a steel wheel on the sixth and last cart of a train dislodged from its proper position before the train came to a stop at a low-lying dip in the track, according to an incident report obtained by NJ Advance Media from the state Department of Community Affairs, which regulates theme parks. No injuries were reported. Passengers were guided off the train, and no injuries were reported.

The El Toro incident remained under review, or “red tagged,” this week, and has not been permitted to resume operating, according to the Department of Community Affairs.

The log flume incident involved one of the log-shaped boats hanging over perilously after glancing off a broken guide rail while rushing down the narrow, four-story spillway. Two riders were taken to a local hospital for observation. Repairs were made and the log flume was allowed to resume operations, the DCA said.

“Engineers in DCA’s Carnival and Amusement Ride Safety Unit reviewed the ride’s engineering documents and were satisfied with the repairs made to the ride,” the DCA said in a statement. “DCA inspectors conducted an inspection of the repaired ride on July 9 and placed the ride back in operation that day.”

The DCA publishes theme park safety tips on its website, urging guests to make sure their seatbelt, shoulder harness, lap bar or chains are fastened; secure all clothing and personal items; and follow the instructions of ride operators.


 

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