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Congrats to El Toro for winning #1 wooden coaster at the Golden Ticket Awards! Truly the greatest woodie on earth and is very deserving....

 

I don't get why everyone says that El Toro is the greatest wooden coaster on earth. When it's really not. There are several wooden coasters out there that are far superior than El Toro. . . I mean, El Toro isn't "bad" but it really isn't the "greatest woodie on earth."

 

That's why it's called an opinion, if you're riding El Toro and you get off and go ah geez *this coaster* and *this coaster* is so much better than El Toro then you're doing it wrong.

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Having been on many of the wooden coasters that normally can be considered the "best" (El Toro, Phoenix, Boulder Dash, Voyage, Lightning Rod, just to name a few), I can safely say three things:

 

1. All are worthy to be considered one of the best coasters around.

2. Any preferential differences are based on the subjective likes/dislikes of that particular rider.

3. What is considered the "best" really could not possibly matter any goddamn less than it already does.

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Having been on many of the wooden coasters that normally can be considered the "best" (El Toro, Phoenix, Boulder Dash, Voyage, Lightning Rod, just to name a few), I can safely say three things:

 

1. All are worthy to be considered one of the best coasters around.

2. Any preferential differences are based on the subjective likes/dislikes of that particular rider.

3. What is considered the "best" really could not possibly matter any goddamn less than it already does.

 

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Having been on many of the wooden coasters that normally can be considered the "best" (El Toro, Phoenix, Boulder Dash, Voyage, Lightning Rod, just to name a few), I can safely say three things:

 

1. All are worthy to be considered one of the best coasters around.

2. Any preferential differences are based on the subjective likes/dislikes of that particular rider.

3. What is considered the "best" really could not possibly matter any goddamn less than it already does.

Yup. Not to get all up in arms about this, but I think "far superior" is a stretch when it comes to other woodies surpassing El Toro. Granted, I can see it if someone has preferences that El Toro just doesn't fit (classic coasters/trains, different pacing or airtime, etc.); I myself have preferences that put several other woodies above it. At the same time, El Toro is world-class and easily one of my favorites!

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Congrats to El Toro for winning #1 wooden coaster at the Golden Ticket Awards! Truly the greatest woodie on earth and is very deserving....

 

I don't get why everyone says that El Toro is the greatest wooden coaster on earth. When it's really not. There are several wooden coasters out there that are far superior than El Toro. . . I mean, El Toro isn't "bad" but it really isn't the "greatest woodie on earth."

 

The opinion of many (everyone) is more telling than the opinion of one (you).

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You know, I wasn't an instant fan of Toro the first time I rode. I wasn't heavy into this hobby, and while I knew people loved it and made a big deal about it, and I got why after I rode, I can't say I liked it. It was a mindblowing ride in every aspect, but it was such a different experience to any other wooden coaster I had ridden up to that point, and was absolutely an acquired taste for me. I definitely didn't dislike it, but it took me the next year of frequenting the park for it to slowly overtake my favoritism of other rides in the park. Its almost like I had to learn to ride it, and in turn, grew to appreciate it. And it eventually became my favorite ride in the park, and now its more or less the main the reason I continue to get SP every year. I've since visited a number of other parks and ridden dozens of other coasters, including some absolutely incredible rides I rank right along with it, but I still consider Toro my favorite wood and second favorite overall. I'll always come back to The Bull.

 

That said, I haven't been up to the park since Memorial Day and the weathers finally broke so needless to say I'm friggin itching right now.

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Congrats to El Toro for winning #1 wooden coaster at the Golden Ticket Awards! Truly the greatest woodie on earth and is very deserving....

 

I don't get why everyone says that El Toro is the greatest wooden coaster on earth. When it's really not. There are several wooden coasters out there that are far superior than El Toro. . . I mean, El Toro isn't "bad" but it really isn't the "greatest woodie on earth."

 

That's why it's called an opinion, if you're riding El Toro and you get off and go ah geez *this coaster* and *this coaster* is so much better than El Toro then you're doing it wrong.

 

More and more I think where we personally slot top rides has a lot to do with rather minor things such as when we rode them, who we rode them with, our limits of certain G forces, how much we like theming, and a big one: how well our particular bodies fit into the cars and restraints. But, yes, even if it isn't your favorite woodie I don't see how it isn't in like your top 5 even with the caveat that while you don't like it that you can see why for many it is number one.

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Man, I didn't realize just how spoiled I was when I was still living right down the street from the park. I'd have after-work El Toro marathon sessions at least twice a week, if not more. One of the few things I really miss from living up there.

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The airtime on El Toro is the strongest sustained airtime I've experienced on any coaster, wood or steel. It's not Ka, Zum, or Nitro that keeps bringing me back to Great Adventure it's El Toro! It's a 7 1/2 hour drive from my house to SFGAdv yet in the past 12 months I've visited separate times.

 

Speaking of visits, some Cedar Point co-workers and I will be visiting the park next Thursday, September 21st if anyone will be at the park. Half the group has never been to Great Adventure before so it's another visit I'm very excited for!

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The airtime on El Toro is the strongest sustained airtime I've experienced on any coaster, wood or steel. It's not Ka, Zum, or Nitro that keeps bringing me back to Great Adventure it's El Toro! It's a 7 1/2 hour drive from my house to SFGAdv yet in the past 12 months I've visited separate times.

 

Speaking of visits, some Cedar Point co-workers and I will be visiting the park next Thursday, September 21st if anyone will be at the park. Half the group has never been to Great Adventure before so it's another visit I'm very excited for!

 

That's awesome. Hoping to get my first CP trip next year for coastermania. Was just at GA for ROTB on Saturday. If you love Toro you should hit that up next year. Two full hours of ERT on Toro after park closing!

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You know, I wasn't an instant fan of Toro the first time I rode...and now its more or less the main the reason I continue to get SP every year.

 

What about Skull Mountain?

 

While there are other woodies I prefer, El Toro is still a world class ride. The first three hills and Rolling Thunder hill give some of the strongest sustained airtime I've experienced on any coaster. Skyrush is really the only one rivaling it.

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When I was in high school, my friends and I would discuss "perfect albums." These are records that are the absolute best that they could be, albums for which nothing could improve them. This was our way of skirting the issue of whether Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon is better than Pearl Jam's Ten or Depeche Mode's Violator. Yeah, they're all kickass rock albums, but they're all so different that it's difficult to fairly compare.

 

So if I would apply this logic, Outlaw Run, El Toro, Phoenix, and Voyage are all "perfect coasters." They are the best that coaster could possibly be, without trying to be something they're not.

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When I was in high school, my friends and I would discuss "perfect albums." These are records that are the absolute best that they could be, albums for which nothing could improve them. This was our way of skirting the issue of whether Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon is better than Pearl Jam's Ten or Depeche Mode's Violator. Yeah, they're all kickass rock albums, but they're all so different that it's difficult to fairly compare.

 

So if I would apply this logic, Outlaw Run, El Toro, Phoenix, and Voyage are all "perfect coasters." They are the best that coaster could possibly be, without trying to be something they're not.

I like this comparison and logic. Unfortunately I think it flies in the face of most hardcore obsessives who have the compulsion to codify and rank everything down to the last minute detail and then argue unyieldingly about why their picks for numbers 1, 2 and 3 are better than YOUR picks for numbers 1, 2, and 3.

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I can't wait to get back up to Great Adventure on one of the November bonus weekends. Looking forward to El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc (I know after Fright Fest, Bizzarro and RMT don't run) in colder weather

After Fright Fest, El Toro and Kingda Ka don't run either. You might want to move up that date.

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I can't wait to get back up to Great Adventure on one of the November bonus weekends. Looking forward to El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc (I know after Fright Fest, Bizzarro and RMT don't run) in colder weather

After Fright Fest, El Toro and Kingda Ka don't run either. You might want to move up that date.

 

They have the last two years. They've run the first two "bonus" weekends of November, only Frontier was closed right after Fright Fest. Source: I was there.

 

And so were you. And the year before.

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I can't wait to get back up to Great Adventure on one of the November bonus weekends. Looking forward to El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc (I know after Fright Fest, Bizzarro and RMT don't run) in colder weather

After Fright Fest, El Toro and Kingda Ka don't run either. You might want to move up that date.

 

They have the last two years. They've run the first two "bonus" weekends of November, only Frontier was closed right after Fright Fest. Source: I was there.

 

And so were you. And the year before.

Well, poop. My memory is going bad. I could have and would have sworn they were closed those bonus weekends. Damn you for using my own words against me!

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