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This is all very interesting, including the verification system. There are sensors, I would guess, that tell if the restraint is down far enough. I've noticed this only on very new coasters, including the calling out of specific seats. It's awesome that you have that as a double check. *in an old guy voice* Back in my day, the restraint check was a ride op pulling on the bar and saying "I hope you make it back okay. Wouldn't want to lose any more today."

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Awesome that's really interesting. And yeah I know all about those Intamin anti-rollbacks. Occasionally at Toro, the rollback wheel will slip going up the entire lift hill and the entire park can hear the anti-rollbacks going off.

 

Now does Millenium Force also have a verify system for the lapbars or are the seatbelts what determine if someone can ride or not? All the times I've been to CP, I've never witnessed anyone get kicked off the ride and you guys seem to hit every interval which is awesome! The verify on Toro is super strict and some days it can be super hard to hit intervals due to the amount of chunky monkeys in the park. Fright Fest is generally the worst time of year to run the ride because people's jackets lower their chances of verifying and sometimes we end up kicking several people off the same train.

 

Also, do you know what the total ridership for the season was for Millennium Force? I know you guys usually do around 1.7 million which is super impressive. We've done about 1.25 million on El Toro so far this season.

 

There's no verification system whatsoever on Millennium Force you can dispatch a train in full auto mode with the lapbars up. However if someone actually did that you could kiss your job at CP goodbye. If the seat belt can fasten the guest is good to ride. You all know we have the notoriously short seatbelts. Fun fact: all seat belts on Millennium are the same length, which makes it fair for everybody but the ability of each ride host to buckle a guest of a larger size varys from person to person and that's how we have the rumors that the seatbelts are all different lengths.

 

Millennium had another 1.7 million riders this season. The highest on Millennium was 1.9 million in 2001

 

I noticed you said you can unlock each car individually, I'm so jealous of that, if we need to unlock it's all the seats or none.

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The verify on Toro is super strict and some days it can be super hard to hit intervals due to the amount of chunky monkeys in the park. Fright Fest is generally the worst time of year to run the ride because people's jackets lower their chances of verifying and sometimes we end up kicking several people off the same train.

 

Almost every single time I ride El Toro I end up on a train where people have a hard time getting the seats to verify lol I know it's not your guys fault. I've also seen idiots who just don't listen and they pull the lap bar down first before locking their seat belts which causes even a longer delay when the car has to be unlocked.

 

Yeah there's always chunky monkeys in the park who don't know how to buckle seat belts. Another weird fact, the first few weeks Toro was open, there was no system to tell you what cars were not verified. You might hear the operator calling car 4, car 5, etc which means that car isn't verified. But back then, you just had to guess which car was not verified. And if you had to unlock a car, you had to unlock the entire train. Now we can unlock individual cars.

 

Wow I can't even imagine what a pain in the ass that must have been between that and the long lines for it just opening.

 

I enjoy reading all the info, you guys do a great job.

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A couple of Great Adventure related questions:

 

The Haunted Castle (NOT about the fire, that's been discussed ad infinitum), for those that actually saw the attraction, what was it like? I'm sure it would have made an awesome Fright Fest addition.

 

For those that work there (or have worked there in the past) . . . what have been some of your favorite moments working there?

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A couple of Great Adventure related questions:

 

The Haunted Castle (NOT about the fire, that's been discussed ad infinitum), for those that actually saw the attraction, what was it like? I'm sure it would have made an awesome Fright Fest addition.

 

At the time it was built there was an abundance of Haunted Houses in close proximity. Stand alone attractions in Long Branch and Brigantine were huge. My memories are fuzzy since it was so long ago, but here is what I remember.

 

It was a long walk through but not as long as Brigantine Castle or the Haunted Mansion Long Branch. Also, although it was well done but not nearly are well done as the other haunted attractions I mentioned. Lots of teenagers would try to hide and hang out in the attraction trying to scare people, sometimes to better results than the scare actors. Many times the scare were not in your face but well themed rooms/scenes with the actors during there best to stay in character and be creepy. The scare actors did a good job, but the scares you saw back then were more creepy scary then surprise you scary. The anticipation and build up to the scares were bigger than the actual scares. Lighting was inconsistent, in some places too dark and others too well lit. I remember walking through it at least three times with friends during school trips and it was always fun. One of the most anticipated attractions in the park for teenagers.

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Hit the park this morning after doing the whole voting thing. Got to the car gates around 10, they opened up around 10:30, and there were not a whole lot of folks around. It was supposedly both a Physics Day for school trips and a Bring-A-Friend-Free for pass holders, but you wouldn't know it judging by the turnout.

 

Got through the main gates around 10:55, made a beeline through the arcade to get to El Toro and get my last few rides of the season in. Managed five in a row without leaving my seat and another one after switching seats. Was running really well thanks to the unseasonably warm weather in the upper 60's/low 70's.

 

After having my fill of the bull, I headed over towards Superman to get at least one lap in. This was the longest wait of the day simply due to them running one single train and the slow loading/unloading procedure. The ops announced "this train is scheduled to leave in 30 seconds"... was closer to three minutes. Even with this, it didn't end up being more than ten minutes with a two train wait. Love that pretzel loop and its unyielding ability to completely knock the wind outta me. Side note, Green Lantern was down, not that I was planning on riding it anyway.

 

From there, I headed towards Ka and on my walk past the station noticed it was totally empty, but they were dispatching trains. This surely can't be? By the time I made it through the switchbacks and into the station, I was greeted with a half-full platform and only two folks waiting for the front row. Slipped in line right behind them and was in and out within the span of five minutes. Also decided to try it hands up in the front for once... shouldn't have done that. Should not have done that. They felt like they were going to be ripped from my sockets. Live and learn...

 

Stopped at Nathan's on my way through the boardwalk section, grabbed some corn dog nuggets, and nibbled on those while walking towards Joker. The line was smaller than I had seen it at any point in recent memory, so I walked through the queue straight into a completely empty single rider line to find that the very next group had five people. They shuffled us off to the purple side and I ended up facing forward. My opinions of this haven't changed much since opening day, unfortunately. No full rotations at all. Kinda solidifies itself as a ride that I'll take a chance on if there's no wait but anything longer than 10 minutes and I can find better stuff to do with my time.

 

Over to Nitro, greeted with a last row walk-on. Does it get any better than that? Not for my money it doesn't. Tons of floater air and a rush of speed. Got a reride in here as well before having to vacate, but no complaints. That left me just enough time for some Batman The Ride action and as always that thing was HAULING. Still missing the backwards train from last season but it doesn't matter. I'll ride it forwards, backwards, in the front, middle, or back, and it always gives me a great ride. Looking forward to a ton of night rides on these two during HITP.

 

Grabbed some Dippin' Dots for the walk back to the car, consumed them in rapid fashion and dealt with the associated brainfreeze, turned the key in the ignition, and the display on the clock read 1:45. Easily the least amount of time I've ever spent in the park, but who cares? I did everything I wanted to do and then some, and had next to no waits. Much love to park management for keeping the park open today for us diehards! \o/

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Had a pretty great day at the park, we mostly just parked our asses on Toro with some other rides thrown in throughout the day.

 

Gotta say, Toro's ops today were pretty slow. But what can you do, shit happens. Had a few run ins with the typical "Rude Six Flags ops" but that could be partially my fault. What I find funny generally isn't what most people consider funny. Had the Toro operator ask me if I wanted to come up and operate, I would have gladly volunteered, but eh, I figured I gave him enough hell throughout our 11 or 12 laps

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Had a pretty great day at the park, we mostly just parked our asses on Toro with some other rides thrown in throughout the day.

 

Gotta say, Toro's ops today were pretty slow. But what can you do, poo-poo happens. Had a few run ins with the typical "Rude Six Flags ops" but that could be partially my fault. What I find funny generally isn't what most people consider funny. Had the Toro operator ask me if I wanted to come up and operate, I would have gladly volunteered, but eh, I figured I gave him enough hell throughout our 11 or 12 laps

 

Lol we have staff from Six Flags New England and Six Flags America at the park this week to help us out. (Seriously if you need a job, apply now or next year for 2017!) Was the operator Donovan by any chance?

 

(If anyone knows this) . . . . so far, what coaster at Great Adventure has seen the highest ridership number this year?

 

That would be Nitro with most likely about 1.4 or 1.5 million riders for the year (I'll try to find out the exact stat.) They were the first in the Six Flags chain to hit one million just like they are every year.

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Had a pretty great day at the park, we mostly just parked our asses on Toro with some other rides thrown in throughout the day.

 

Gotta say, Toro's ops today were pretty slow. But what can you do, poo-poo happens. Had a few run ins with the typical "Rude Six Flags ops" but that could be partially my fault. What I find funny generally isn't what most people consider funny. Had the Toro operator ask me if I wanted to come up and operate, I would have gladly volunteered, but eh, I figured I gave him enough hell throughout our 11 or 12 laps

 

Lol we have staff from Six Flags New England and Six Flags America at the park this week to help us out. (Seriously if you need a job, apply now or next year for 2017!) Was the operator Donovan by any chance?

 

Not sure, couldn't see his name tag. If I didn't live an hour and a half away I probably would apply for a ride op position. I was talking with a New England ride op over at Ka, and he told me he's getting paid 13 an hour (his rate at New England)

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I know this has been discussed before, but I was surprised to see SFGADV operating dates so far into Nov and December. I know the holiday lights will be occurring, but my question is what coasters typically operate this late in the season, say first weekend of December? My apologies as I know it's mentioned in here but I can not find it. Is it worth going first weekend of December if I just want to ride the big coasters (Kingda Ka, Nitro, El Toro etc?) Thanks in advance!

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^ posted 3 pages back.

 

 

Golden Kingdom, Plaza Del Carnival and all rides within those areas will be closed after this weekend. Frontier is already closed for the season. Last chance to ride Toro, Ka and Zumanjaro is this coming weekend.

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Toro only saddled once this year on opening day (which could have been easily avoided lol). Usually it will saddle several times during the preseason, or twice during park operating hours like it did in 2015.

 

Honestly, I think Toro would be okay to run for a longer period of time even if it did get much colder out, I'm talking like 40 degrees or even slightly less. The only time Toro runs too slow for comfort is during the early season where all the wheel components on the trains are brand new or have been sitting around for months after being rehabbed. Maintenance gives the reasoning that the trains are tight and need to be loosened up and broken in. This combined with the cold weather means near saddle conditions for Toro unless you fill the trains with weight. However by fright fest, the trains only run slightly slower in the morning due to sitting for a night, and it often drops to 30 degrees at night. After loading up a few trains with riders, the trains start moving at summer speeds again (40+ feet per second into the brakes.) During the early season, you're lucky if you can get a fully loaded train to run above 30 feet per second into the brakes, and this is at roughly the same temeratures. Last year during fright fest, there were times when the temperatures dropped well below 40 degrees but Toro would continue to run like a champ. Basically after running all season, the trains are loosey goosey.

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Good day today, park had more people than I thought but seemed to be spread out nicely cause didnt wait on lines, Ka walked on twice, Zumanjaro walked on, Toro, Nitro etc.

 

Only ride I saw had a line was Joker and we waited longer for food than the rides. Overall a nice day in the park and will be going back once HITP is set up.

 

Ate at Nathans and boy they are slow, its like they have no urgency at all to get the food out quick, that pisses me off.

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In hindsight Six Flags should've given SFMM El Toro since it's always warm here in Cali and Gradv could've had the was-once-decent-now-crap-GCI

 

Six Flags could also start charging a proper price for a season pass at a park that is open all year long. And you have RMCd Colossus. Here on the East Coast we have been appreciating El Toro for 10 years. 9 years between a brand new thrill coaster. History tells me SFMM fans would have been complaining for the last eight years and not as appreciative.

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As of noon crowds are light. One train ops on El Toro, so could not get rerides, but i was stuck on the lift hill at 11:30 for up 4 minutes. Kingda Ka and drop are down, assuming it is the wind. At Nathan to eat, only one person ahead of me, took about two minutes to order and get food.

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