Jcoaster Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I propose that they tear down Green Lantern and put some of the panels there. I second this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scbt Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Honestly, It's probably in Great Adventure's best interest to just come out and say how much doing this will cost. I think everyone is massively underestimating the cost AND feasibility covering the parking lot with solar panels. By my calculations, the total amount of land at Great Adventure that is parking lots is around 85.39 acres including the employee lot, overflow parking, and Hurricane Harbor lots. Now we have to remember that parking lot panels don't cover that whole area - if they went with the standard design of the panels like the ones below, you'd probably be getting maybe 50% of the lot covered in solar - or roughly 43 acres (I'm just gonna round up for simplicity). Which is significantly less than what they'd be able to get from the current plan. Rutgers covered 32 acres of parking lot in 2011 back for $40 million - if you adjust that for the drop in price for solar (since 2011, prices have gone down by half), you're looking at a price of $26.875 Million. You also have to add on the costs to renovate the parking lot to install the panels (which password121 mentioned being possibly around $10 million). That's going to end up at nearly $37 million for the cost of doing the parking lots that would probably only put out 2/3 the power of what they would get from the panels in the woods. Honestly, I'd also guess that my estimates are probably being quite generous and I wouldn't be shocked if the costs were even more, possibly up to the $40+ million range. Additionally, it seems like the going rate for standard solar is roughly $500 thousand per acre (Source 1,Source 2). For Six Flags, that would be $30 million for the 60 acres, which also gives you 33% more power output. For the equivalent amount of power, from the parking lot panels, they'd probably need to get up into the $50 to nearly $60 million dollar range. As much as I agree that doing the parking lot solar would make more sense, its just not a good financial option for Six Flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genx24 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 As far as I know, Six Flags isn't paying for it. I heard that an outside company is footing the bill and doing the work; the park is just providing the land and reaping the benefit. Edit: After reading the initial press release, from last March, I believe I'm mistaken. Although the outside company (KDC Solar) will indeed own and operate the facility, I'm sure the park is paying them. Not sure where I heard what I mentioned initially; might have just been me having a brain fart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scbt Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 ^ Either way, whoever is paying for it is going to definitely have a strong preference towards the panels in the woods if it is significantly cheaper than the parking lot, which all signs point to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genx24 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 ^ That, and much less of a risk of damage. I believe the park when they say the parking lot isn't viable. People are idiots, they will find a way to either damage the panels or themselves were they to be built in the lot. Like I said earlier, with both sides digging their heels in and unable to compromise, this project will probably fall by the wayside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strz Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightBag95 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I personally hope they reconsider the placement of the panels. Using renewable energy to power a park sounds environmentally great, but that probably would not make up for the loss of trees and habitat for the ecosystem caused by the deforestation. I think parking lots are a great idea for the panels. Since parking lots are already impervious surfaces that increase stormwater runoff, why not at least slap some solar panels over them to make up for the fact it's already negatively impacting the environment. Another thing is that the shade would be very nice in the summer! As far as human violation of solar panels, I think that is truly a minor concern. I definitely would not put it past someone as people lack respect these days, but if they are high enough off the ground there should be little to worry about. My college campus has them installed in our lots and even if someone were to crash their car into one of the structural beams, the car would most likely take all the damage assuming they are traveling at parking lot speeds. I would just hate to see all of those matured trees removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyislandchris Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Since parking lots are already impervious surfaces... "Impervious" is not a word I would use to describe Great Adventure's parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillies2 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I also think that parking lot panels can work. If they can have solar panels over Lincoln Financial Field's parking lots with (Dumb Drunk Eagles fans), then they can have them anywhere. Im not sure of the specific size of the area, but it says the Eagles put 30 million in for 11,000 panels. Six Flags could always do the parking lot in phases over so many years so they get some money back before buying another section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Take it with a grain of salt, but it is "Six Flags" news. Six Flags filed for the name "Titan" today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Why? They have a coaster in Texas called Titan? Don't they already own it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jcoaster Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 From Screamscape: Six Flags - (2/26/16) Six Flags may be planning another LARGE roller coaster for one of the parks in the chain, as they have filed paperwork to trademark the name "TITAN" for a future ride. To date Six Flags has only used the "Titan" name once, at Six Flags over Texas for the sister ride of Magic Mountain's Goliath. With the only other "Titan" in Texas, you can count that they wont use that name again at Fiesta Texas, so look for the name to possibly drop at one of the parks more likely to add a new coaster in 2017 like SF Magic Mountain, SF New England, SF Over Georgia or maybe even La Ronde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFlagsAstroworld Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 ^Titan sound better than Jersey Giant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Tl;dr: Titan Loop Coaster. Coming to a park near you. August 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 ^Titan sound better than Jersey Giant. If they go the "Jersey" route, I think we can all agree Jersey Devil sounds best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I prefer the Jersey Ranger. #shotsfired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genx24 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Wait, why the automatic assumption that "Titan" will be used at GAdv? Trademarks are filed by corporate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 That's odd, didn't Six Flags file for Titan last year too? As well as Gale Force 7 and Total Mayhem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelRush Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 If they go the "Jersey" route, I think we can all agree Jersey Devil sounds best. El Diablo is already used, which means "The Devil" in Spanish. From Screamscape: Six Flags - (2/26/16) Six Flags may be planning another LARGE roller coaster for one of the parks in the chain, as they have filed paperwork to trademark the name "TITAN" for a future ride. With the only other "Titan" in Texas, you can count that they wont use that name again at Fiesta Texas, so look for the name to possibly drop at one of the parks more likely to add a new coaster in 2017 like SF Magic Mountain, SF New England, SF Over Georgia or maybe even La Ronde. Also, Six Flags New England is using Goliath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcoaster Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Yes but the coasters name is Diablo and not "The Devil". This is Six Flags they recycle names all the time. We have had numerous Batman coasters at one point. El Diablo being there would not deter them from using that name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boldikus Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I think they should call our next coaster The Jersey Guido. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coneyislandchris Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I think they should call our next coaster The Jersey Guido. Only if they take the Got2Be Glued wrap off Kingda Ka and move it to that one instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strz Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Cool! Thanks for confirming that we will "finally" get a major addition at SFGA! I've grown tired of the carnival rides that they've been trying to pass off as coasters to the GP, which includes the newest install for 2016....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Cool! Thanks for confirming that we will "finally" get a major addition at SFGA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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