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I didn't as absolutely, I said there really wasn't a difference! It's only a slowed down lift. Trust us, the ride after that turn around and top of the drop is no different!

 

Also, the guests weren't complaining, the staff were getting reports about some things the train was doing that felt unsafe (I know, the lead op pulled me aside to ask me if something seemed different). GP don't even realize the difference. But I've seen this lift do different speeds to.

 

I've done it once where the lift came to a complete stop before releasing and then I've had it just slow down. But take my word, it's still El Toro.

 

-Dainan " " Rafferty

 

Saying there's no difference between hurtling around the turn and leaping down the first drop and crawling around the turn and sliding down the first drop is like saying there's no difference between The Godfather and The Godfather with the first fifteen minutes lopped off...sure, the rest of the ride is the same but the rush of being tossed down that first drop is gone.

 

Okay! I've had it! Unless you've ridden it before and after! You have no right to make opinions! So shut it! It's slightly different, the top of the drop! WOW! The worlds going to end! Don't get me wrong, I'd preffer to have the bit of speed, but it's really no different. If you sit anywhere except for the first 3 cars, it doesn't feel different!

 

-Dainan "Listen to the people who have ridden it. We are all saying the same thing!" Rafferty

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I didn't as absolutely, I said there really wasn't a difference! It's only a slowed down lift. Trust us, the ride after that turn around and top of the drop is no different!

 

Also, the guests weren't complaining, the staff were getting reports about some things the train was doing that felt unsafe (I know, the lead op pulled me aside to ask me if something seemed different). GP don't even realize the difference. But I've seen this lift do different speeds to.

 

I've done it once where the lift came to a complete stop before releasing and then I've had it just slow down. But take my word, it's still El Toro.

 

-Dainan " " Rafferty

 

Saying there's no difference between hurtling around the turn and leaping down the first drop and crawling around the turn and sliding down the first drop is like saying there's no difference between The Godfather and The Godfather with the first fifteen minutes lopped off...sure, the rest of the ride is the same but the rush of being tossed down that first drop is gone.

 

Okay! I've had it! Unless you've ridden it before and after! You have no right to make opinions! So shut it! It's slightly different, the top of the drop! WOW! The worlds going to end! Don't get me wrong, I'd preffer to have the bit of speed, but it's really no different. If you sit anywhere except for the first 3 cars, it doesn't feel different!

 

-Dainan "Listen to the people who have ridden it. We are all saying the same thing!" Rafferty

Oy! Both of you! Calm down!

 

I agree you can't have a REAL opinion unless you ride something for yourself, but you also shouldn't go around telling people to "shut it."

 

While I can "listen" to the people who have ridden it, I'm not going to pass any judgement until I ride again for myself.

 

This reminds me when Disney trimmed California Screamin' and all the Disneyland fanboys told me "Oh, it really doesn't affect the ride at all." And then I rode it and most of the airtime was gone from the bunny hills.

 

Not that I am doubting anyone, but I just won't believe it doesn't affect it until I ride it.

 

--Robb

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I didn't as absolutely, I said there really wasn't a difference! It's only a slowed down lift. Trust us, the ride after that turn around and top of the drop is no different!

 

Also, the guests weren't complaining, the staff were getting reports about some things the train was doing that felt unsafe (I know, the lead op pulled me aside to ask me if something seemed different). GP don't even realize the difference. But I've seen this lift do different speeds to.

 

I've done it once where the lift came to a complete stop before releasing and then I've had it just slow down. But take my word, it's still El Toro.

 

-Dainan " " Rafferty

 

Saying there's no difference between hurtling around the turn and leaping down the first drop and crawling around the turn and sliding down the first drop is like saying there's no difference between The Godfather and The Godfather with the first fifteen minutes lopped off...sure, the rest of the ride is the same but the rush of being tossed down that first drop is gone.

 

Okay! I've had it! Unless you've ridden it before and after! You have no right to make opinions! So shut it! It's slightly different, the top of the drop! WOW! The worlds going to end! Don't get me wrong, I'd preffer to have the bit of speed, but it's really no different. If you sit anywhere except for the first 3 cars, it doesn't feel different!

 

-Dainan "Listen to the people who have ridden it. We are all saying the same thing!" Rafferty

Oy! Both of you! Calm down!

 

I agree you can't have a REAL opinion unless you ride something for yourself, but you also shouldn't go around telling people to "shut it."

 

While I can "listen" to the people who have ridden it, I'm not going to pass any judgement until I ride again for myself.

 

This reminds me when Disney trimmed California Screamin' and all the Disneyland fanboys told me "Oh, it really doesn't affect the ride at all." And then I rode it and most of the airtime was gone from the bunny hills.

 

Not that I am doubting anyone, but I just won't believe it doesn't affect it until I ride it.

 

--Robb

 

Sorry about my reaction . I'm over protective of my ride...damn I am a GA Fanboy! Anyway, you are 100% right where you won't know unless you ride it.

 

-Dainan "Once again, coming from the Thunder Dolphin fan!" Rafferty

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While waiting in line for my first night ride on Kingda ka it broke @10:59. Usually they send you home , but not this night. I was lucky enough to be sent to El Toro at 11:10pm Again being Lucky, I sat in the Front Row. This had to be one of the fastest laps I have ever been on. The lift still clunks and speeds you up 3/4 of the way until the train is one length from cresting the top. At this the point I've ridden it were it either crawls around the turn, or it's going around five or eight mph.

 

While ridding in the back earlier that night I still got the same feeling as being pull over from the drop and slamming my thighs into the lapbar. Let alone that crazy Ejector air coming over Rolling Thunder. (you know the part where it actually seems you might get tossed out and land on Kingda ka) Well, that's still there as well as the insane speed the train picks up going through the twister part.

 

Did I mention they sent us around a second time that night. Both rides were incredible and so far my most enjoyable to date. This is also being said after I rode a dozen or so times on Media day which were good , but no where compared to what happened last Saturday night.

 

Will I miss the speed around the turn, sure ! But... did it effect the ride after the drop, No.

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They slowed the cable down so it doesn't tear any feet off.

Too soon!

 

Also, As far as i remember (and i remember Viper well, one of my favorite rides) Viper didn't slow down at the top.

I believe I may have ridden El toro with the slowed lift hill... just because my last ride.. I got off and was actually completely bored of the ride!...so I went over to Medusa and rode that 14 times. A day later i remember seeing the Gadv TR with the "Slowed lift hill". Me, i guess you could say being a Great Adventure fanboy... El Toro went from being my #1 coaster.. to.. umm.. below #10, and i've only been on 85 coasters. j2 = my new favorite woodie.

 

huh? um...yeah.... alrighty then. I guess its "possible" you happened to just a train off the transfer. The ride is completely different until it warms up (aren't most?). But regardless, I can assure everybody the ride is completing the course faster than it has all season. Its hitting the brakes a few seconds soon than all last season.

 

And I'm not sure where this new wheels thing came from. I'm not aware of any changes to the wheels. I mentioned the point that the wheels can physically only spin so fast on that first drop (they can only go so many rpm's) so its hitting the exact same speed no matter what. I think the only difference is that El Toro has finally broken in and is sustaining more speed throughout the entire course.

 

After 60+ rides, I know this ride personally. Its only getting better. I agree with those that mentioned - you won't know til you ride it

 

By the way, Medusa1861 was right, that comment was to soon!

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It doesn't really crawl like it does in the video anymore. On all 3 of my rides yesterday when we crested the lift we still had some speed to the train even with the cable still attached. Just not the extreme speed like before though.

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mentioned the point that the wheels can physically only spin so fast on that first drop (they can only go so many rpm's) so its hitting the exact same speed no matter what.

 

Just to mention the wheels can go whatever speed the train wants to go, the wheels dont decide the speed of the train. The wheels do not have a maximum RPM. The only thing that would really change the wheels spinning faster would be better lubricant, but that would increase speed slightly and would decrease the speed lost throughout the ride.

 

Ok I must admit, I have never ridden it before, as the last time I went to America was about ten years ago, so I can't really give my opinions on how the ride feels itself I'm just trying to contribute something to help!

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Deconstruction has already started on Chiller at Six Flags Great Adventure. It has been closed since June and though it has been said that they were going to fix it totally, it seems like it fell through and they have begun to rip it down.

 

You can see photos being taken at the park today at this link!

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/13991564@N08/

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It would really suck if they tore down this ride. I only got to ride the Robin side, but it was really good when I rode it.

 

Not to be annoying or anything, but how do we know that those pictures are from recently and aren't from last offseason when they replaced the zero g roll with a bunny hill?

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^Because as you can see the Zero-G-Roll is already replaced in those pictures. Plus theres some of that "sneak-peak" theming for Fright Fest in one of those pictures. Im only assuming though, I could be wrong.

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^screamscape has been talking about this for a while and another site I'm on (the main SFGAdv fan site) has confirmed this too. Plus those pictures look valid, as one of them has a spider web netting for Fright Fest on the queue.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about this, I'm relieved, yet I'm sad. GAdv is my homepark and I'm relieved because I was always tired of the status of this ride, I was always hoping to get on it everytime I went because it wasn't always a gaurantee because of being broken or having lines a mile long. But, I am also sad because this was a unique ride, no where else in the world did a coaster like this exist. Sure Mr. Freeze is out there but this one was a dueling ride and 2 completely different coasters. I had 3 spins on Batman and 7 on Robin overall. Well, I guess I'm saying goodbye yet again to another thing besides GL. 1998-2007, Chiller will DEFINITELY be missed because there is no doubt this was a park favorite because it was that unique.

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Now that is pretty sad. Chiller was in my top 20, but that's from a ride with the g-roll still in tact. Bummer, but from a business standpoint, it's not a bad move to cut what is very likely the most expensive coaster in the park to operate, especially when its had all sorts of reliability issues over the years. Shame I'll never get the blue side though, guess I gotta go ride a Freeze to get top hat experience

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Could it be possible that they are just replacing that whole section of the ride adding a new spike or something?

 

If it is being torn down, that's sad. I was going to go to GADV this year, but it got pushed back to next year and I was relieved that Chiller would be all fixed and ready to go for me. I guess not.

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Batman has been down for years and i dont think they would replace the spikes because whats the point if one side still isn't working and if they aren't even trying hard to reopen it. Plus, it sounds like SFGAdv has plans for a ride to fit into Chiller's footprint

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Could it be possible that they are just replacing that whole section of the ride adding a new spike or something?

 

If it is being torn down, that's sad. I was going to go to GADV this year, but it got pushed back to next year and I was relieved that Chiller would be all fixed and ready to go for me. I guess not.

 

^I feel like highly doubting that! This coaster has given Great Adventure problems for years. The have changed the cars, restraints and even the track to make this ride work for them and every single time its pretty much failed. So the fact that they would try and put a spike in is pretty minimal.

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(to FeeltheFORCE) No, Chiller has always been a mechanical nightmare for SFGAdv. A brief timeline of Chiller's notable mechanical issues.

 

1997- ride opens and operates for one week before closing again due to trouble with the LIM technology (which the technology was still in its infancy back then for its use on coasters).

 

1998- ride reopens and operates. However, there have been reports over time about the ride using so much technology that it causes brownouts at times. [Then again, I think this myth has been said about many LIM rides]

 

2006- Ride de-rails, down for the rest of the season.

 

2007- Zero-G rolls removed. Then, a few months later, removal.

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I've only been on the Robin side and thought it was a really good ride, it's a real shame this one is coming down. Sounds like they'll put that rumoured indoor Batman coaster there.

 

Robin seemed to run realtively well, but it probably wasn't practical to just keep one side. I've always wanted to ride that upside down tophat on the batman side.

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