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HAHA ! Well, I just came over here to post this, but yea. I took this video, and yea I rode it a few times with the lift like this, and no it doesn't effect the ride! The only difference is that you no longer get the pop of air over the top of the lift, and you know longer get thrown into the first drop. The inching around does build the suspence.

 

The reason they slowed it down is due to flexing on the lift, and it was going way too fast through the circut (mostly train B, Hector). It was making the train actually rock and make weird noises and was doing some strange stuff. As enthusiests, we loved it. The ride was the most exteme ever, but with them slowing down the lift, it's back to normal Toro! So it's nothing to be too worked up about!

 

-Dainan "So...yeah, " Rafferty

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They can alter the wheels and get a totally different ride. I actually had someone tell me they were reported too that while the first half is slightly slower, it carries more speed - which would make sense if the wheels were changed out.

 

However, you cant increase speed too much or the RT hill will get out of control.

 

 

At least theres no trim on it...yet.

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We've been taking bets to see when it'll get trimed or ever reprofiled! The twister section, and the bottom of the first drop and turn around is where the problems and reports were coming from.

 

(We meening the GA Fanboys)

 

-Dainan " " Rafferty

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The only difference is that you no longer get the pop of air over the top of the lift, and you know longer get thrown into the first drop.

 

The ride was the most exteme ever, but with them slowing down the lift, it's back to normal Toro! So it's nothing to be too worked up about!

I'd have to ride it again to judge for myself, but with what you've described, I don't think I'd rank Toro quite as high as I did before.

 

I just don't believe that with loss of speed going over the first hill it doesn't affect the rest of the ride.

 

--Robb

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The only difference is that you no longer get the pop of air over the top of the lift, and you know longer get thrown into the first drop.

 

The ride was the most exteme ever, but with them slowing down the lift, it's back to normal Toro! So it's nothing to be too worked up about!

I'd have to ride it again to judge for myself, but with what you've described, I don't think I'd rank Toro quite as high as I did before.

 

I just don't believe that with loss of speed going over the first hill it doesn't affect the rest of the ride.

 

--Robb

 

It really doesn't. The major increase of speed happened in the middle of May! The way the rides speed through out the ride now, is how it is intended. Trust me, we were all worried when we first took our rides with the new lift, and we all swept the sweat off our foreheads when it was done. it really doesn't effect the ride at all other than the lift and the turn!

 

-Dainan "And the Rolling Thunder hill is still magnificent" Rafferty

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^ While I really WANT to believe you, because you know I really like everything you post, etc, you even call yourself a "GA Fanboy" and sometimes people tend to show things in the most positive light. But even in your video it looks like it goes a bit slower over that 2nd hill.

 

Trust me, I *want* to believe you....I really do....I'll just have to ride it for myself to find out.

 

--Robb

 

EDIT: You notice it the most at the bottom of the 2nd drop going up into the 3rd hill. I'd say your video shows it taking about .5 seconds longer to complete that section compared to the video I shot in April.

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^ While I really WANT to believe you, because you know I really like everything you post, etc, you even call yourself a "GA Fanboy" and sometimes people tend to show things in the most positive light. But even in your video it looks like it goes a bit slower over that 2nd hill.

 

Trust me, I *want* to believe you....I really do....I'll just have to ride it for myself to find out.

 

--Robb

 

Thank you, I really do appreciate it when people say they like what I post. And I agree with you. I didn't believe it when they did it either, but I had to try it for my self. So now you have an excuse to come back over here and ride El Toro again!

 

-Dainan "This coming from the kid who loves Thunder Dolphin" Rafferty

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Dainan "This coming from the kid who loves Thunder Dolphin" Rafferty

Oh, yeah...good point! Now I *know* you're full of crap!

 

--Robb

 

If it helps, I didn't like Fujikyu. And I had a much better trip the last time I went to Six Flags America .

 

-Dainan "Plus, I fell in love with TDS" Rafferty

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I rode ET a week ago, and while I knew the lift was fast, I didn't know it was that fast. I would guess something with the lift motor is not working properly, or it could just be slower because it was built by Intamin.

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A slower lift will in fact affect the overall speed of the ride. The only way i can agree that it did not affect the ride is if as the ride broke in, it became faster and was out of specification. Then by slowing the lift it brought the speed and stress down which put it back into spec and how it ran few months ago.

 

Now if you rode it just prior to the change, then rode it again just after the change, there is no way in hell you can say there is no difference.

 

It has been said that you don't get thrown over the top and you don't get whatever somewhere else. That is a big change right there. So there is a change.

 

Anyway, if you slow or speed a lift on any coaster it will affect it's overall speed. That is plain old physics.

So most definitely ET has been affected.

 

Good thing i have not ridden it yet, when i do i won't be dissapointed.

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The Park might of received letters of complaints about the ride's speed over the hills and going up the lift hill. May see "trims" on the 1st drop next season if the Park thinks the ride is shaking it's self to destruction.

 

I hate to see any coaster slowed down, esp mid way with loads of bunny hops in front of you. e.g. Wild Thing. These should be taken at max speed.

 

The designers of roller coasters know how much strain and speed the structure can take, but as with most things new, they all have to be "tamed" after a while.

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Hmm--glad I was able to experience it before they slowed down the lifthill; to me, that was a big part of the El Toro experience--being hurled around that curve at the top.

 

I'll reserve judgment until I ride it again.

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No it really doesnt affect anything at all. Every time I've been on it since they slowed the lift down ET gave the same ride it always did. I know, its hard to believe. I didnt even believe it myself when I first heard of the news. But, it really doesnt affect anything thank god.

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That totally ruins the crazy, out of control feeling the lift gets you - before, the train would just go barreling through that turn and only give you a few seconds to actually think about what you got yourself into. This sucks.

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^Not really, I rode Toro around 3 weeks ago when they started to slow the lift down and what I got was one of the best rides I've ever gotten from Toro. The lift doesnt really affect Toro's speed and you still get insane ejector airtime

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I dont know much about physics but I assumed the taller the lift hill and the drop the faster the ride would go. I dont believe that if the lift hiss was slowed that it would slow the entire ride down. Maybe they needed some more loading time to avoid stacking. Just conjecture not fact. I am just thinking.

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I know many people have said this already, but the ride is still the same. It charges through the course and still throws you out of your seat. The Twister section even feels a little more out of control now! I just hope this ride can keep itself together because I'll kill thim if they trim that insane first drop

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I remember how fast the lift was, but does anyone remember if it slowed at all once you leveled out at the top? If it did then I can see the slower lift speed not effecting the overall ride speed, if the speed is the same at the top. ...but then some say the turn around at the top is slower, so who knows.

 

Did anyone understand what I just said?

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I dont know much about physics but I assumed the taller the lift hill and the drop the faster the ride would go. I dont believe that if the lift hiss was slowed that it would slow the entire ride down. Maybe they needed some more loading time to avoid stacking. Just conjecture not fact. I am just thinking.

 

Assuming that the original speed was 15 mph and the new speed is 5 mph, that would mean that there's a loss of 10 mph throughout the whole ride. However, I've heard chatter about new wheels, so that may have something to do with it (better wheels=faster ride).

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