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I'd rather they clean up the park, add some nice landscaping, and maybe renovate some areas before they expand. Because even if they add a beautiful expansion (remember when The Golden Kingdom looked really nice?), if they neglect the rest of the park beforehand it will be for nothing.

 

They could have done this instead of adding a carnival attraction that will do little to attract guests. New paint on current rides would have been a much better use of whatever they paid for looping dragon.

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I'd rather they clean up the park, add some nice landscaping, and maybe renovate some areas before they expand. Because even if they add a beautiful expansion (remember when The Golden Kingdom looked really nice?), if they neglect the rest of the park beforehand it will be for nothing.

 

They could have done this instead of adding a carnival attraction that will do little to attract guests. New paint on current rides would have been a much better use of whatever they paid for looping dragon.

 

To be fair though Rolling Thunder's queue is an eyesore and it did need renovation anyway so re-using it for a new ride and refreshing the area is a very good thing and seems to fall in line with the kind of updates you're looking for.

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I'd rather they clean up the park, add some nice landscaping, and maybe renovate some areas before they expand. Because even if they add a beautiful expansion (remember when The Golden Kingdom looked really nice?), if they neglect the rest of the park beforehand it will be for nothing.

 

They could have done this instead of adding a carnival attraction that will do little to attract guests. New paint on current rides would have been a much better use of whatever they paid for looping dragon.

 

Can you please provide the cost analysis you have done to compare the number of new guests attracted by new paint versus and a new ride?

Also, you may be out of the loop, the ride's name has been changed to El Diablo and it is not a carnival version of the ride it is a permanent installation.

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^I'm sorry if i offend you in some way by my opinion. Also, I never said new paint would attract guests. I simply think it would be a better investment than "El Diablo."

It's my opinion Larry and I'm sticking to it. I respect you and most of the opinions you have. Maybe we just disagree on this one.

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Let's hope this is a turnaround for great adventure, hopefully Six Flags has been looking at what Cedar Fair has been doing over the past few years. Take Carowinds for example... A few years ago most enthusiasts outside of the south east were not even looking at the park, now we're all making plans to go there because of great new rides like fury and intimidator as well as a new entrance to really spruce things up! Maybe Six Flags Great Adventure is planning something along the same lines, in their own way. I do agree that Six Flags Great Adventure has been declining over the past few seasons, and a few million dollars throwing towards re-imagining the resort aspect could lead to a major increase in attendance! Let's be honest, major attractions that they've been adding in the past decade or two have been great for the park, but creating a world-class atmosphere that goes along with the world-class rides would make it top-notch once again!

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Let's hope this is a turnaround for great adventure, hopefully Six Flags has been looking at what Cedar Fair has been doing over the past few years. Take Carowinds for example... A few years ago most enthusiasts outside of the south east were not even looking at the park, now we're all making plans to go there because of great new rides like fury and intimidator as well as a new entrance to really spruce things up! Maybe Six Flags Great Adventure is planning something along the same lines, in their own way. I do agree that Six Flags Great Adventure has been declining over the past few seasons, and a few million dollars throwing towards re-imagining the resort aspect could lead to a major increase in attendance! Let's be honest, major attractions that they've been adding in the past decade or two have been great for the park, but creating a world-class atmosphere that goes along with the world-class rides would make it top-notch once again!

I've had mixed feelings about Great Adventure over the past few years. On one hand, they've really shifted their focus from only thrill coasters all the time towards a more well rounded park with a little more for non-coaster riders to do. On the other hand, I honestly can't say they've done a great job of it.

 

The individual investments they've made the past few years have been pretty good. Green Lantern is nothing special at all, but a decent replacement for the Scream Machine. Adventure Alley was probably what they needed most, and was well executed. The Safari is fantastic and is very popular once again, and it is a unique attraction for those that don't do thrill rides.

 

Then we get to Zumanjaro. On one hand; the ride is OMFG insane and is something the park needed, as well as getting a new, record-breaking thrill ride, which is great every once in a while. On the other hand, they removed a piece of the park's history in Rolling Thunder, created a HUGE empty area with a false promise for baboons in the queue and "future expansion" (as of this point), and killed the capacity of the coaster that draws the longest lines and those from beyond the region to the park. Combined with the abysmal construction timeline, if this figure is correct, there are far superior options to spend almost $10,000,000.

 

I'm completely fine with the park taking an "off-year" after such a mess, spending so much more than they intended. El Diablo seems like a perfectly fine flat ride to me; other than the marketing of the ride, I honestly don't see why so many complain about this. And no, it is not a valid argument to say it is a better investment to clean up the park than to add this ride. It's a SF policy to add a new ride each year, and new paint will draw no more than zero guests.

That's where my issues with the park continue, though. Movie Town needs tons of work. El Toro's been plastered with a banner and ads. Kingda Ka is operated like crap and the Golden Kingdom in general isn't, well, the Golden Kingdom. Bizarro's ops didn't have any reason to run three trains in 2014. The park is desperately lacking shows. The midways are cracked to pieces in some areas. The water tower looks like Batman theming, not in a good way. The parking lot is borderline illegal, and it seems they have absolutely no intention of fixing it. The park seriously could use another water ride. The opening procedures/gold pass entry is a mess and I hate every part of it. I don't ride Superman anymore because of its operations. Nitro's queue bars are one foot tall, and the ride looks like crap. It's junkyard themed.

 

I don't mean to rag on the park at all; I rarely do because I love the park to death. There are just countless things the park needs to improve on before it should ever consider becoming a resort destination.

This park has SO much potential to be the best park on the east coast and one of the best parks in the world, but I seriously question if they realize that and if they really do have a "Master Plan."

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^I'm sorry if i offend you in some way by my opinion. Also, I never said new paint would attract guests. I simply think it would be a better investment than "El Diablo."

It's my opinion Larry and I'm sticking to it. I respect you and most of the opinions you have. Maybe we just disagree on this one.

 

Your opinion does not offend me. Your repeated bashing of a yet to open ride ad nauseam is not productive. You have stated dozens of times that you don't agree with the park's decision on the ride, we ALL get it.

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To back up what some people were saying earlier, El Diablo will be a good addition if only for the fact that the wasteland left in Rolling Thunder's wake will be cleaned up.

 

Movie Town needs tons of work. El Toro's been plastered with a banner and ads. Kingda Ka is operated like crap and the Golden Kingdom in general isn't, well, the Golden Kingdom. Bizarro's ops didn't have any reason to run three trains in 2014. The park is desperately lacking shows. The midways are cracked to pieces in some areas. The water tower looks like Batman theming, not in a good way. The parking lot is borderline illegal, and it seems they have absolutely no intention of fixing it. The park seriously could use another water ride. The opening procedures/gold pass entry is a mess and I hate every part of it. I don't ride Superman anymore because of its operations. Nitro's queue bars are one foot tall, and the ride looks like crap. It's junkyard themed.

 

I agree with just about all of these glaring points you made (especially the disgusting ads plastered on El Toro and other attractions), but I heard somewhere that the parking lot is going to be fixed up, so there's at least something to look forward to!

 

Also as much as I'd love the Golden Kingdom shortcut to reopen, I'm 99% certain it isn't that one

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Expect an "old" pathway to reopen this season (extra emphasis on the word old).

 

Emphasis on "old", as in "Old Country"?

 

Are you allowed to give any more details?

 

You'll see for yourself when the park opens in a few weeks

 

I agree with just about all of these glaring points you made (especially the disgusting ads plastered on El Toro and other attractions), but I heard somewhere that the parking lot is going to be fixed up, so there's at least something to look forward to!

 

There are actually no immediate plans to fix up the parking lot. Doing so would cost 10 million apparently and it's not something the park wants to invest in at the moment.

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ACE New Jersey Region just posted on their FB page:

 

"Six Flags Great Adventure surprise ride announcement tomorrow morning at 5 am. Stay tuned for the super news!"

 

Namtab?

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To add more fuel to the Namtab speculation fire, I just read in the SFGAdv Connoisseurs FB group that according to the Coaster Con registration form "Batman the Ride will be closed when the Con is there end of June 2015".

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Old Country being closed doesn't bother me in the slightest... I don't care at all.

 

Golden Kingdom being 2 separate areas that aren't connected and the walk from El Toro to Kingda Ka being unbelievably long for no reason annoys me much more.

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