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Solar powered (partly) Six Flags is long overdue, but I question the design of their system.

 

Cutting a forest for a single large array isn't the way to do this.

 

The fairgrounds in Sacramento, Ca. has a large solar array over part of the parking lot. It serves two functions: it makes electricity and shades the cars, keeping them cooler.

 

I'd love to see at least some of the solar panels used as shades for the queues, at least where that would be appropriate. Rooftop solar is the most efficient for space and transmission of power, although Six Flags probably just wants to put in a large system and not have to do any electrical work in the park itself.

 

A hybrid solar / wind system would probably work best for them, they have some open areas and being close to the ocean they probably get decent wind at times.

 

I've used solar panels (directly) for more than two decades, they provide most of my home power in the summer.

 

El Toro is my favorite coaster I've been on (233 credits is my count, I think).

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Cutting a forest for a single large array isn't the way to do this.

 

It is interesting that the park is "going green" by adding the panels but cutting down a ton of trees to do it. I know the main idea here is to save money not to save the environment but usually when companies do this they like to make a big deal about how "green" they are and pat themselves on the back. That doesn't really work if you level a large part of the forest to do it when you have a massive parking lot and a huge area around the old Wild Safari entrance that's already clear that you could have used.

 

It doesn't matter to me. I'm no environmentalist. I'm just saying it's a bid odd...

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I love this. Hopefully will all the saving on electric, we can see our Season Pass prices even cheaper in the future. Maybe like $50 for a gold SP

 

 

Looks like SFGADv will build a 100-acre solar farm to power the entire park.

 

http://www.jacksontwpnj.net/documents/minutes/planning_board/2014/12-01-14.pdf

 

Ordinance – Solar Energy Facilities

Ray Shea represented Six Flags along with representatives of KDC Solar. Mr. McGuckin said the ordinance was generated

per request by Great Adventure to allow for a solar field on their land. The Township Council did not introduce the

ordinance as it was too late to refer it to the Planning Board before the end of the year, but the Council is sending it now

to the Planning Board to weigh in prior to introduction of the ordinance.

This ordinance will be referred back to the Planning Board for review of consistency with the Master Plan, after the

Township Council’s first reading introduction. Mr. Hudak said this is a request from Six Flags to put in a solar array on a

100 acre site on property they own. The property is not developed and is currently wooded. They will be able to

generate almost all the energy they use at Great Adventure. Mr. Bressi said another positive note is they would go back

three years on taxes for their forestry benefit. They could run the entire park at times on the solar power. The Council

supports the ordinance but couldn’t introduce it before the end of this year, but they want it to move forward.

Rick Roseberry, KDC Solar, was sworn. He said there are two changes brought by this ordinance, the rezoning of Lot 15

to CR-2 and to add the solar use as a conditional use in the zone. The project will make Six Flags completely solar

dependent. They have the ability to project their costs for the next 20 years which would allow them to save money on

electricity and develop other commercial ventures in accordance with the Master Plan.

Mr. Peters said in terms of the Master Plan, it is environmentally friendly. The area is not developed and the solar field

would help meet the needs of the facility. The project would put some land back on the tax rolls. Mr. Peters finds

nothing wrong with the proposed ordinance, adding that it is the more time efficient manner to approvals than asking for

a use variance. The ordinance preserves their rights in a cleaner and efficient manner. Mr. Bressi added that if they

went before the Zoning Board and anything changed, they would have to appear again before the Zoning Board.

Mr. Klee said he met informally and said this is a good project. There would be an analysis of all the trees to be lost.

Mr. Kern asked about the net meter projects as he felt it important to look forward. Mr. Roseberry said the Board of

Public Utilities regulates that. This is an accessory use. They can specify that it is a net meter project. Mr. McGuckin

said they should submit that to the governing body. Ms. Buono gave a copy of the ordinance to Mr. Roseberry. Mr. Kern

asked how large the project is and was told 22 megawatts DC, 17 megawatts AC. He asked why not use the parking lot,

and was told it would be not feasible. They would deforesting near Reed Road. Mr. Kern asked if there is any nonforested

area to consider. Mr. Roseberry said this is the only area that has contiguous acreage to support the project.

Mr. Kern asked about the inter-connection and was told there would be a substation on Route 537 near the employee

entrance. They will have to build another substation.

Public portion opened, no one came forward; Motion to close public portion by BRESSI/Kern. YES:

Unanimous among those present.

Mr. Hudak approved of the project for tax revenues and helping the environment.

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Why would you want to lower the cost of season passes? They're dirt cheap as they are and allow too many teenagers to just leech off the park. The park doesn't turn a large profit (if any) off them, and it creates the atmosphere the park has become known for. If anything, the prices should be closer aligned to Cedar Fair's. I paid $50 for my SFA 2015 gold pass with parking. That is far too low and I would have no problem paying $100 for SFA, more for Great Adventure.

 

Edit: doesn't the Jackson planning board limit tree removal? At Greatadventurehistory a user posted an image showing how large this area would have to be-- about twice the size of the entire parking lot. I don't see this being approved, assuming that many trees are removed.

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I love this. Hopefully will all the saving on electric, we can see our Season Pass prices even cheaper in the future. Maybe like $50 for a gold SP

 

That would be a stupid thing for the park to do.

 

How about they use the savings to fix all things aspects of the park you complain about?

 

 

Instead of delaying a ride opening to get more passes sold, how about they stop running the park like crap and pissing off the people that buy passes so that they might actually buy one again.

 

Unfortunately this probably won't happen until the chain smartens up and starts charging $100+ for a season pass.

 

 

totally agree, a gold pass should be sold more the $61.99, like way more

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The park is in desperate need for some refurbishment on some of the rides (Nitro paint job, because darn that paint is ugly.), and just some more love and care all throughout the park. The cement all around the Boardwalk area is all cracked up and just all out nasty. The better the park looks, the more I will enjoy my visits here and the GP would come back over and over again.

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The better the park looks, the more I will enjoy my visits here and the GP would come back over and over again.

 

This a million times over. Great Adventure has one of the best coaster line ups, but it's also the ugliest theme park I've ever seen. I'd much rather pay even more for season passes (which are already dirt cheap) provided they clean the place up and tone down the advertising just a bit.

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I love the idea of a completely solar powered amusement park but it makes me uncomfortable to think they'll be taking down so much forest land. Why don't they put them over the parking lot and then put the remainder in the forest? I hope other parks use solar power but put the panels over the parking lot. Small squished parks like SFDK wouldn't have any other option, anyway.

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I love the idea of a completely solar powered amusement park but it makes me uncomfortable to think they'll be taking down so much forest land. Why don't they put them over the parking lot and then put the remainder in the forest? I hope other parks use solar power but put the panels over the parking lot. Small squished parks like SFDK wouldn't have any other option, anyway.

 

This is from Rainbow Magicland in Italy. I would love to see these in US park's parking lots. It would also help keep your car cool on those hot summer days.

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Yay my first post

 

I have been reading many of the threads here for a veeery long time, but decided to join now.

I'm going to New York this summer in June, 12/6-20/6 (don't know if its the correct way to write in the US) and I'm planing to visit SFGA. I was thinking I could use some tips from people that have been visiting the park since I basically know zero of the practical stuff. I have read the park description in the park index and it have been very useful, but I would like to hear some more personal opinions/suggestions/tips.

 

I'm planning to visit the park on a Monday since I'm assuming it wont be that crowded compared to the weekends, or should I choose a different day to visit the park? I'm staying 10 days so I have some options.

I read that the bus from the Port Authority Bus Terminal to the park is a good option to get there, I saw that you can gett some sort of discount by purchasing the bus ticket and park entrance in one, does anyone know how it works?

Should I buy a flashpass? If, which one of them, and when should I buy it?

I have read the suggested order you should ride the coasters at the park index, but does anyone have their own personal preference to get the most out of the day?

 

Haha I'm sorry for asking that many questions in one post.. I would really appreciate if I got some replies

// Erik

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I'm still pretty shocked that anything like this is even being proposed at a US park. The US always seems like the last place on earth that an energy-saving, eco-friendly project would take place. Indeed, those parking lot covers look fantastic! But of course, does Six Flags really need another structure to maintain? Perhaps the forest is a better option.

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More tax payer money down the toilet for something that will only work half the time...

 

You are misinformed.

 

Why are you saying that taxes will be wasted? The project is not going to subsidized in any way.

 

Why are you under the impression it will work only have the time. Solar power is quite reliable today. The projection of the solar panels being able to power the park most of the season sounds reasonable.

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To take this amounts of energy off of the power grid during the season, and then throw it right back into the grade in the off-season is a win-win win-win! I think it's a great idea, although I do agree with everyone discussing putting them in the parking lot. I seen that done at many government buildings on Long Island, and it really does seem to work very well! The only concern would be the amount of incidents that could come from accidentally driving into the posts.

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More tax payer money down the toilet for something that will only work half the time...

 

You are misinformed.

 

Why are you saying that taxes will be wasted? The project is not going to subsidized in any way.

 

Why are you under the impression it will work only have the time. Solar power is quite reliable today. The projection of the solar panels being able to power the park most of the season sounds reasonable.

 

you do know that that the govt gives tax breaks for this.

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