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What could the picture on Twitter mean? Well there are stuffed dragons in the top picture, the bottom left picture is an oval which means that the ride has an oval layout, and the bottom right picture shows a water mill which is like water on a wheel. This only means one thing...Dragon Wagon Aquatrax confirmed!

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way to treat veterans, SFGAdv

 

http://www.nj.com/ocean/index.ssf/2014/08/nj_veteran_says_six_flags_denied_him_admission_over_shirt_supporting_marines.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

N.J. veteran says Six Flags denied him admission over shirt supporting Marines

 

 

Mario Alejandro

Mario Alejandro wearing the shirt he said got him denied from entering Six Flags Great Adventure. (Courtesy of Mario Alejandro)

 

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Rob Spahr | NJ.com By Rob Spahr | NJ.com

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on August 14, 2014 at 3:25 PM, updated August 14, 2014 at 3:58 PM

 

 

 

Mario Alejandro was ready for a fight when he was part of the initial invasion of Iraq in 2003 as a member of the U.S. Marine Corps.

 

Where he did not expect a fight was at Six Flags Great Adventure while taking his children there for a birthday party.

 

But due to the shirt that his family bought him for Father’s Day, a fight is exactly what the 33-year-old veteran from Woodbridge says he encountered while attempting to enter the theme park on Saturday.

 

Alejandro, who is a father of three and a former coach of the Cardinal McCarrick High School football team, served four years as a member of the Marine infantry. He was part of the initial invasion into Iraq in 2003 and said he is classified as disabled, due to the hearing loss and post-traumatic stress disorder he sustained from his military service.

 

In June, Alejandro’s family gave him several shirts they had purchased from the The Reconnaissance Foundation, a nonprofit organization that helps to support Recon Marines and their families, as a Father’s Day gift for him.

 

“I thought it was great, I loved it. The shirts fit my personality perfectly. They’re military and they’re patriotic. That’s my thing,” he said. “I wore them to all over the place, to my kids’ baseball games – everywhere. And I got nothing but compliments about how great they were. No one ever said they were offensive, because it’s obvious that they’re in support of the military and the United States.”

 

But Alejandro said this changed on Saturday when the black shirt he was wearing - with a red, white and blue machine gun and the words "Keep Calm and Return Fire" on the front and the logo and website for The Reconnaissance Foundation on the back - caught the attention of a security guard at the front gate.

 

 

Mario Alejandro

 

Photo of the back of the shirt, which was purchased from the Reconnaissance Foundation, a nonprofit organization that helps to support Recon Marines and their families.

 

Courtesy of Mario Alejandro

 

“I was walking in through the gate with my wife and kids, who were in front of me, when a security guard grabbed me and said: ‘I can’t let you into the park with that shirt on. That shirt’s offensive,’” Alejandro said on Tuesday. “I said that it’s not offensive, it’s a military shirt. I told him that I am an Iraq veteran… I served in the war. But he said: ‘I don’t care, you have to take that off… or you need to buy another shirt to put over it.’”

 

Alejandro said that when he refused to take the shirt off or buy a new shirt to cover it, the security guard told him to wait there while he checked with their supervisor.

 

“I saw him talk to two women in white shirts, who looked at me and then shook their heads. And then the man grabbed my arm and asked me to leave,” he said. “I told them that’s it’s not offensive, that it’s a military shirt and that it means something. But they said: ‘I don’t care, get out of the park."

 

Alejandro said he complied with the request, but only after announcing to hundreds of other people who were entering the park that he was a veteran and what was happening to him.

 

"My wife and my son were crying, because they didn't understand why this was happening," he said. "I just told my son to remember this day. To remember how they treat veterans."

 

Kristin B. Siebeneicher, a spokeswoman for Six Flags Great Adventure, said via email on Thursday that the incident was "under review."

 

"Our goal is to maintain a fun, safe and family-friendly environment. Our dress code does not permit clothing with vulgar, offensive or violent language or images," she wrote. "If a guest is wearing such attire, we ask them to remove and replace it with another item of clothing; and if they do not have one, they are able to purchase a replacement item at a gift shop."

 

Siebeneicher added that Six Flags is extremely proud of its longstanding relationship with the U.S. military.

 

"We work closely with them throughout the season to offer special events that honor our service men and women and their families, including a recent July 4th tribute, and an upcoming 'Salute the Troops' event over the Labor Day weekend," she said. "In addition, active members of the Army, Navy and Air Force helped open our new thrill ride this summer."

 

But Alejandro said no veteran should ever be treated he way he was on Saturday.

 

"At the very least should revise their policy," he said. "I fought for this country. I laid in a hole for 36 hours with no sleep, and had friends die for this country and so the people here could have the freedom to things like visit amusement parks. So when they told me that I couldn't come in there with my family because of my shirt - a patriotic shirt - it hurt a lot. No other veteran should ever have to experience that."

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Yet a 300 pound women can walk around in a bikini top and her thong hanging over the top of her jean shorts...

 

I can't...

 

Edit: I truly don't understand why people don't think about what they put on before they go a "family theme park." It truly blows my kind sometimes what people where to SFGAdv...

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way to treat veterans, SFGAdv

 

Did you read what he was wearing? I don't see that as appropriate for a public place either.

 

 

Yes, I saw what he was wearing, it was a t-shirt. But it ok for women to have there ass and tits hanging out, plus all the vulgar language you hear around the park. that's so much more family friendly.

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I also hate how the news article brings in the fact that he's a veteran. He's not wearing a X Marine shirt for an FDNY or NYPD shirt it really has nothing to do with the military except for the fact that it has a gun on it... Don't use the fact that he's a veteran to make everyone else feel bad about the situation, he shouldn't of want it in the first place to the park

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Can't say I blame Great Adventure on this one. The message on that shirt has no connection to the fact that he's a veteran.

Being a veteran doesn't give him special permission to violate the park's dress code. He clearly just wanted the attention from being "victimized" by Six Flags.

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I don't get why people are defending SF, there is no reason that they shouldn't let a veteran wear a shirt raising that raises awareness and support for the military. Especially since they're in that country!!!!

 

^Because it is against park policy to wear a shirt like this. There really isn't much to discuss here. Let's not turn this into a veteran's or gun rights issues. He wore a shirt that was against park policy and refused to remove the shirt. The park asked him to leave.

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I also hate how the news article brings in the fact that he's a veteran. He's not wearing a X Marine shirt for an FDNY or NYPD shirt it really has nothing to do with the military except for the fact that it has a gun on it... Don't use the fact that he's a veteran to make everyone else feel bad about the situation, he shouldn't of want it in the first place to the park

 

Agreed 100%

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Yeah, the park made a good move here. And he says he never gets flack for wearing that shirt elsewhere, but I'm not gonna mess with someone wearing a shirt that says "Keep calm and return fire"

Saw this on Great Adventure's Twitter page. What could it mean?

Maybe the water wheel is a hint at an S&S free spin? SFGAd is a major US park, and the free spin is supposed to be going to a "major park".

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I realize that and meant to say something to that effect in my post. I just don't see why they would re-develop a pretty small area they *just* re-developed

They didn't re-develop it. They laid some grass down. It was probably lumped into the cost of Zumanjaro and was negligible compared to the cost of the rest of the ride. And as far as re-developing that "small" area, never underestimate what a park has room for. Go to Blackpool, you'll see they've built some insanely HUGE rides in a fraction of the space.

 

And that area isn't as small as you think...

 

 

Robb, thank you for making the size of the area so clear! I get so worn out when people say RT area is too small for significant expansion when it very obviously is not!

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I realize that and meant to say something to that effect in my post. I just don't see why they would re-develop a pretty small area they *just* re-developed

They didn't re-develop it. They laid some grass down. It was probably lumped into the cost of Zumanjaro and was negligible compared to the cost of the rest of the ride. And as far as re-developing that "small" area, never underestimate what a park has room for. Go to Blackpool, you'll see they've built some insanely HUGE rides in a fraction of the space.

 

And that area isn't as small as you think...

 

Agreed- I remember all the banter that there wasn't enough room for a 400+ roller coaster on that side of then park....hmmmmm! Same for one of the world's steepest, fastest wooden roller coasters- that one fit in kinda' nice!

 

My gut tells me that something will sit where Rolling Thunder once stood, along with the opening of Old Country once again.

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Yeah, no. That shirt should definitely not be allowed in a family amusement park. It really isn't patriotic at all, it just promotes violence and war. Also, the fact that the guy started telling everybody he saw that "he was a Marine" and that "he should be allowed to wear a Marine shirt" just irks me. I thank everybody who served in the military, but they shouldn't be able to break rules just because they're a veteran.

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Six flags needs to pick their battles. Crowds of kids screaming F this, F that, running all over my lawn. Get off my lawn with your tweeters and instant grahams, this place isn't a family park. The amount of male phallaces drawn on walls and railing in line for the rides is worse than that shirt.

 

"Mommy what does that guys shirt mean?" "Son, it means he fought for this country so we can enjoy ourselves at this lovely park today." "Oh cool mommy, Whats that picture of a hot dog on wheels mean?"

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Six flags needs to pick their battles. Crowds of kids screaming F this, F that, running all over my lawn. Get off my lawn with your tweeters and instant grahams, this place isn't a family park. The amount of male phallaces drawn on walls and railing in line for the rides is worse than that shirt.

 

"Mommy what does that guys shirt mean?" "Son, it means he fought for this country so we can enjoy ourselves at this lovely park today." "Oh cool mommy, Whats that picture of a hot dog on wheels mean?"

I agree that the clientele of the park isn't the best that shirt doesn't mean he is a veteran. If he didn't say that he was a veteran no one would've guessed it.

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