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To be fair there is a huge difference between Flashback and Goliath when it comes to ride experience. One ride is good and the other one is awful and they really feel nothing alike in any way.

 

They're both boomerangs. An RMC would ride really different from El Toro, it would still be redundant.

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Well SFMM has two 4D coasters when no other park in North America has one. The two are very different rides, but still.

 

RMC is gonna put a coaster on top of El Toro. It's gonna be called Iron Toro. Just think about what that would be like for a moment.

 

I'm just glad I got to ride RT again this year so I don't feel too terrible about its loss. I'm really curious about what might go there. Maybe something in 2015? Isn't it like a Six Flags anniversary year or something?

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Id rather see a Gravity Group ride go from next to the Ferris Wheel over to the water tower along the parking lot and back. I feel like that side of the park could use something, and a slightly less insane ride would fit quite nicely into the family atmosphere of the section... plus imagine what the parking lot view would look like now!!

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To be fair there is a huge difference between Flashback and Goliath when it comes to ride experience. One ride is good and the other one is awful and they really feel nothing alike in any way.

 

They're both boomerangs. An RMC would ride really different from El Toro, it would still be redundant.

 

I agree that it would be redundant, but there's nothing wrong with having two great wood coasters (I still don't think it will happen though because I'm really confident that our next major coaster will be a Wingrider). As far as SFNE goes having the 2 coasters next to eachother looks ridiculous but they really are entirely different ride experiences even though technically they're both boomerangs.

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To me Gadv still does not feel like a 'complete' park. Sure the coasters are great, but things like closing off Old Country for YEARS, having dead ends randomly appear in the park, and a severe lack of solid flat rides really hurt the overall appeal. Getting rid of Rolling Thunder and modernizing the ride line-up with the addition of Zumanjaro is an awesome idea in my opinion. However, what ticks me off is I still feel like parts of this park are neglected. Before we even worry about what is going in Rolling Thunders place, let's please revitalize Old Country. That is a must! I feel like an addition of 2-3 solid flats while opening the Old Country dead end will do so much more than just sticking a coaster down where RT used to be.

 

Give me some of these:

 

 

this is not a flat ride, but still would work well in that section:

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To me Gadv still does not feel like a 'complete' park. Sure the coasters are great, but things like closing off Old Country for YEARS, having dead ends randomly appear in the park, and a severe lack of solid flat rides really hurt the overall appeal. Getting rid of Rolling Thunder and modernizing the ride line-up with the addition of Zumanjaro is an awesome idea in my opinion. However, what ticks me off is I still feel like parts of this park are neglected. Before we even worry about what is going in Rolling Thunders place, let's please revitalize Old Country. That is a must! I feel like an addition of 2-3 solid flats while opening the Old Country dead end will do so much more than just sticking a coaster down where RT used to be.

 

I do agree with this, it's sad to see an area like Old Country being boarded off from guests. A Movietown-Old Country renovation would be really nice.

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^^I'm sure people are lining up for a ride just like Shoot the Rapids right now . I love the other 2 ideas but don't see either of them happening.

 

Great Adventure does have a severe lack of non-coaster rides, but in the last 3 years they've done a lot to correct this problem with the addition of Adventure Alley, Safari Off Road Adventure and the new drop ride. I'm happy to see that they're addressing it.

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Yeah, they did just get a good flat-ride package with Adventure Alley. Really helped that area of the park out, so I really hope that sort of renovation can continue to Movietown and Old Country to make that entire side of the park feel a lot more complete.

 

Sidenote, was there an opening date announced for Zumanjaro? I'm hoping it's ready to go in April seeing as it's attached to one of the park's most popular rides (and certainly their biggest talking point for anybody looking to visit) and not being held off until Memorial Day, leaving Ka out of service until then.

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I agree that the park is not really complete. However, when you are completing with New York City and Philadelphia attractions you need big additions in order to peak interest and get people coming in to the park year after year after year.

 

That's no excuse, Busch Gardens Williamsburg competes with DC and yet somehow they find it within their budget to keep their park pristine and beautiful every year. There's no reason SFGA can't build big new rides AND work to improve infrastructure. They're just cheap bastards who don't care about the customer experience. Seriously, the layout of the park as it is now is one of the worst of any park I've ever been to.

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Seriously, the layout of the park as it is now is one of the worst of any park I've ever been to.

 

It's my home park so I never really think about it since I know how to get to everything but now that you mention it you're absolutely right. You have to cut through an arcade to bypass the boardwalk from the main midway area, there are 2 Golden Kingdoms since the area is no longer connected and Old Country just kind of ends.

 

I know a lot of people are complaining about Old Country but the Golden Kingdom thing drives me insane. I hate the fact that there are 2 sections of it that aren't connected and they turned a short walk from El Toro to Kingda Ka into a really long walk through the most congested area of the park (which became more congested when they cut off Golden Kingdom). I hope whatever they do for the new drop tower entrance area involves re-opening this area.

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Not to mention just finding the right path that takes you to Kingda Ka is a headache and a half. Maybe that's a problem only I have, but I don't have trouble navigating at any other park I've been to, usually I don't even need a map.

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^^I'm sure people are lining up for a ride just like Shoot the Rapids right now . I love the other 2 ideas but don't see either of them happening.

 

Haha, you're definitely right...it's just a ride that I think would tie the whole park together. Regardless, Gadv needs to work on it's current infrastructure before planning any other expansions. Perfect what it currently has, THEN move on to bigger and better things.

 

Just curious, why don't you see the other two ideas happening? I LOVE those rides, and think they would do well there

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I agree that the park is not really complete. However, when you are completing with New York City and Philadelphia attractions you need big additions in order to peak interest and get people coming in to the park year after year after year.

 

That's no excuse, Busch Gardens Williamsburg competes with DC and yet somehow they find it within their budget to keep their park pristine and beautiful every year. There's no reason SFGA can't build big new rides AND work to improve infrastructure. They're just cheap bastards who don't care about the customer experience. Seriously, the layout of the park as it is now is one of the worst of any park I've ever been to.

yea but Busch Gardens only competition is Six Flags trashmerica

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Just curious, why don't you see the other two ideas happening? I LOVE those rides, and think they would do well there

 

Unless I'm just forgetting a park I don't think any Six Flags park has a giant Frisbee or an S&S Swing ride. Both rides also have a lot of mechanical problems. I absolutely love them and think they're great, but I'm worried that the maintenance headaches combined with the fact that Six Flags has never purchased either of them before (that I can think of) make it unlikely (but not impossible) that they'll be coming to Great Adventure anytime soon.

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I agree that the park is not really complete. However, when you are completing with New York City and Philadelphia attractions you need big additions in order to peak interest and get people coming in to the park year after year after year.

 

That's no excuse, Busch Gardens Williamsburg competes with DC and yet somehow they find it within their budget to keep their park pristine and beautiful every year. There's no reason SFGA can't build big new rides AND work to improve infrastructure. They're just cheap bastards who don't care about the customer experience. Seriously, the layout of the park as it is now is one of the worst of any park I've ever been to.

 

The clientele is those two areas are totally different. Great Adventure attracts those who do not care as much about a pristine atmosphere. Busch Gardens attracts families that are typically on a vacation to the Colonial Williamsburg area, and some nicer suburbs of the DC area so they are looking for that kind of experience. I am not saying it is an excuse, but calling Six Flags a bunch of cheap bastards is not correct in this situation. They are making multi-million dollar additions and improvements during the off season, they are just different than what Busch Gardens makes.

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I agree that the park is not really complete. However, when you are completing with New York City and Philadelphia attractions you need big additions in order to peak interest and get people coming in to the park year after year after year.

 

That's no excuse, Busch Gardens Williamsburg competes with DC and yet somehow they find it within their budget to keep their park pristine and beautiful every year. There's no reason SFGA can't build big new rides AND work to improve infrastructure. They're just cheap bastards who don't care about the customer experience. Seriously, the layout of the park as it is now is one of the worst of any park I've ever been to.

 

The clientele is those two areas are totally different. Great Adventure attracts those who do not care as much about a pristine atmosphere. Busch Gardens attracts families that are typically on a vacation to the Colonial Williamsburg area, and some nicer suburbs of the DC area so they are looking for that kind of experience. I am not saying it is an excuse, but calling Six Flags a bunch of cheap bastards is not correct in this situation. They are making multi-million dollar additions and improvements during the off season, they are just different than what Busch Gardens makes.

 

Sorry, I don't buy it. BGW caters to a wide variety of clientele, including thrill seekers, seeing as they have two B&M's that are both the tallest and fastest of their type. SFGA also caters to a wide variety including families. They don't mainly attract people who don't care about atmosphere, why would that be true? They're cheap bastards when it comes to doing anything to the park other than building new rides. BGW is simply a nicer, better-run park, as is Hershey, as is King's Dominion, as is most of their major competition.

 

No excuses, Six Flags sucks plain and simple.

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I see a lot of people mentioning Old Country. I've never been to SFGdv, so could someone fill me in on where exactly this area is? I study the aerial views often so I have a vague idea of layout, just not the names of the areas.

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I see a lot of people mentioning Old Country. I've never been to SFGdv, so could someone fill me in on where exactly this area is? I study the aerial views often so I have a vague idea of layout, just not the names of the areas.

 

It's the area where Batman & Robin the Chiller used to be basically behind the dark knight ride building. It's a dead end now in the movie town area which used to go straight through to the front of the park, which is really inconvenient and is really the biggest downside to the area being shut down. It used to house other rides as well like Stuntman's free fall like Demon Drop at Dorney.

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So.. let me make sure I'm following you on this one.

 

First you would have "killed off" the "fake mouse" ride instead of scrapping it (you just contradicted yourself, are we removing it or scrapping it?).

 

Then you would have called up Cedar Point and asked if they would be willing to sell you their beat to crap bobsled coaster with a ridiculously low capacity completely ignoring the fact that there is already a beat to crap bobsled coaster in the chain that's rumored to be on it's way out at Great Escape that you could just move here without having to buy anything. You're also ignoring the fact that said beat to crap Bobsled was removed in 1988 FROM GREAT ADVENTURE because it has terrible capacity and can't run in any rain at all.

 

What I'm not sure about is if you want to put Disaster Transport in the Dark Knight building where it wouldn't fit at all or if it would become an outdoor coaster that can't run in the rain. I'm also not sure why you'd put a ride with a capacity too low for Great Escape at Great Adventure.

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