Jump to content
  TPR Home | Parks | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube | Instagram 

Six Flags Great Adventure (SFGAdv) Discussion Thread


Recommended Posts

I've not gone west to sample the drop tower SFMM fused onto Superman, but Second-Gen Intamin Drop Towers are the epitome of that ride type to me* - how do they compare? I know the vehicle and restraint system are a bit different, but based on the eye test, I'd imagine the ride experience is closer to the Second-Gens than the Third-Gen Gyro Drops (at least I hope it is).

 

*Haven't gotten around to an ARM Tower yet, but I've heard only good things.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've not gone west to sample the drop tower SFMM fused onto Superman, but Second-Gen Intamin Drop Towers are the epitome of that ride type to me* - how do they compare? I know the vehicle and restraint system are a bit different, but based on the eye test, I'd imagine the ride experience is closer to the Second-Gens than the Third-Gen Gyro Drops (at least I hope it is).

 

*Haven't gotten around to an ARM Tower yet, but I've heard only good things.

 

The ARM towers are amazing and every bit as good as everyone says. I rode the one at DelGrosso's and it was intense. The ride vehicle drops like a rock.

 

If a drop tower is mounted to Kingda Ka's support structure, how much do you think the supports will sway compared to the versions at Magic Mountain and Dreamworld?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I haven't been following all of this, but is it possible that they could actually just be replacing some of Kingda Ka's structure with those pieces?

 

 

The ride is only 8 years old, I doubt structural fatigue cracks could happen in that amount of time even with the force Kingda Ka puts on the tower. (Look at TTD at Cedar Point, have we seen any new tower supports come yet? I think we would be able to tell because the new supports would be darker than the rest of the tower)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The ride is only 8 years old, I doubt structural fatigue cracks could happen in that amount of time even with the force Kingda Ka puts on the tower. (Look at TTD at Cedar Point, have we seen any new tower supports come yet? I think we would be able to tell because the new supports would be darker than the rest of the tower)

 

Eight years is more than enough time for that to happen. Xcelerator saw structural modifications after just a year of operation. The Impulse Coasters (including Wicked Twister) also saw structural modifications not long after opening.

Edited by Ed Farmer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I thought Rolling Thunder was running well on Monday, it didn't seem any different than the times I have ridden the coaster in the trips to the park in the past month. I actually think its running smoother than Thunderhawk at Dorney this year.

 

I agree 100%. I've ridden Rolling Thunder quite a bit over the last few years and don't find it rough at all. I find it horribly boring in every seat, but not rough.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I thought Rolling Thunder was running well on Monday, it didn't seem any different than the times I have ridden the coaster in the trips to the park in the past month. I actually think its running smoother than Thunderhawk at Dorney this year.

 

I agree 100%. I've ridden Rolling Thunder quite a bit over the last few years and don't find it rough at all. I find it horribly boring in every seat, but not rough.

 

Last year I got some really good rides on the left side. It was raining all day and Rolling Thunder was actually traveling quite fast! The entire return leg had solid air-time on every hill.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Except Kingda Ka's support structure isn't just straight up and down. It curves, making it pretty much mandatory to add a decent amount of supports to the structure.

 

Why would they just build it on the front face instead?

 

If I'm not mistaken, the hydraulics room for Kingda Ka is at the base of the tower in that area.

 

The hydraulic room is right where the track starts to curve up. Same place where Dragster's is, and there aren't any problems there with the queue taking up the infield all the way up to the end of the launch. It won't be a problem here either. There's no way they're attaching it to the back of the tower, it makes no sense logistically or structurally, or from on- of off-ride in any way at all.

 

Eight years is more than enough time for that to happen. Xcelerator saw structural modifications after just a year of operation. The Impulse Coasters (including Wicked Twister) also saw structural modifications not long after opening.

 

This isn't a fair comparison at all. Xcelerator and Wicked Twister were both modified because they were structurally underdesigned. Dragster and Kingda Ka aren't. Simple.

 

If a drop tower is mounted to Kingda Ka's support structure, how much do you think the supports will sway compared to the versions at Magic Mountain and Dreamworld?
I don't think this is going to be even close to a problem. Tall towers close in high winds because they sway too much - the standalone towers are the best example (any drop tower, any SkyScreamer or Windseeker), but S:EFK/LL:DOD is also a relatively thin tower that already sways ever time a Superman car hits the tower, not to mention the extra weight now of a Lex Luthor car sitting at the top - hence the closures when it's windy.

 

Ka's tower doesn't move even remotely close to how much a standalone tower or even the Superman tower. You'll be able to operate a drop tower on it with wind speeds well beyond what they'll allow for any of those other towers, I guarantee it. Heck, you could probably operate it in higher winds than you should Kingda Ka if you're trying to avoid any stalls or constant rollbacks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There were a good number of supports under Kingda Ka's tower, but I don't think there were any new ones since those pictures were taken a couple days ago...

 

I really didn't have that great of a time at the park today. The customer service was absolutely horrible. When we got to the park at 10:20 the lines to get in were past the ticket booths. They also closed off the Premium Passholder lines after 10:35 saying that they were only supposed to be open for ten minutes. What's the point of that?

 

First ride was Kingda Ka. Two trains were running. A couple trains before riding Ka broke down. It only took 25 or so minutes to reopen though.

 

Next was Green Lantern. The line was down the stairs... And right after we got in line a train got stuck on the MCBR. It took almost 40 minutes to reopen. For some reason I waited. By the time we got off Superman's line was probably close to 1.5hrs.

 

Walking across the park Batman's line was outside. I'm not sure if any switchbacks were being used, but only one train appeared to be running. (They could have just been stacking horribly with two though, but I'm guessing they only had one running.) We skipped it and waited almost half an hour to Nitro. The operators double stacked every single time. The ride was a little shaky...

 

We took the skyway across to Rolling Thunder. The right side still hasn't reopened. The ride was running really well!! I was really surprised! The operators were bad. Really bad.

 

After Rolling Thunder we finished with a ride on Bizarro. Yes, they double stacked. No fire either.

 

The safari's line was almost to the log flumes entrance... And yes, trucks were stacked outside the station.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dunno if this was mentioned before, but I saw it posted on Facebook and thought it was interesting...

 

Could it be possible that SFGAdv is redoing Kingda Ka's top hat and turning it into an inverted top hat? This would give Kingda Ka the highest inversion on a roller coaster in the world record, and GAdv already stated that the new addition would be record breaking. I'm all in for a "Giga-Drop", but this sounds like it could be a possibility as well.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dunno if this was mentioned before, but I saw it posted on Facebook and thought it was interesting...

 

Could it be possible that SFGAdv is redoing Kingda Ka's top hat and turning it into an inverted top hat? This would give Kingda Ka the highest inversion on a roller coaster in the world record, and GAdv already stated that the new addition would be record breaking. I'm all in for a "Giga-Drop", but this sounds like it could be a possibility as well.

 

Although it makes sense from the hints (This will be sure to "top" everyone's ride list) I think that is very unlikely.

 

 

Also, it is referred to as a Giga Drop everywhere, but wouldn't it technically be a Strata Drop?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That wouldn't top MY ride list. My shoulders hurt just thinking about going through the top-hat upside-down as slow as it does. I personally don't give any clout to those rumors.

 

Hopefully, if they do this, they remove the trims atop the tower. However, Intamin's OTSRs don't touch your shoulders much, right?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hopefully, if they do this, they remove the trims atop the tower. However, Intamin's OTSRs don't touch your shoulders much, right?

 

The ones on Kingda Ka touch mine a lot, if ride-ops push down enough on the restraints (I'm 6'0"). There are times when I'll get thrown into the restraints cresting over the smaller airtime hill, putting extra pressure on my clavicle bones. I had similar experiences on Storm Runner this season, too.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Report: After being away from the park in about five long months, I happened to visit the park on the day of two big events in the park. The park was holding a concert from Bridgit Mendler that people were lining up for in front of the Northern Star Arena since noon, but I've never heard of her so I didn't bother to actually see it. Also, it was "Rogers and Hammerstein's Cinderella" day, and they celebrated it by playing the songs from the musical on the loudspeakers and holding a parade with the characters, which I missed by a hair. Anyway, since it's been so long the last time I visited the park, I was eager to visit the new Safari Off Road Adventure... only to be greeted by a line that stretched out to the sign of Runaway Train. Fortunately, it also meant that Runaway Train, Bizarro, and the Skyway all had less than 5 minutes each, so I rode then all with my mother.

 

After a ride on Skull Mountain, I began to see that all of the lines were starting to pick up. I wandered off to Kingda Ka, which still had a sizable wait of about 20 minutes. El Toro was down for the day because of technical difficulties, meaning Rolling Thunder (just the left side was open) had a longer line than usual. The line for the Safari never got any shorter throughout the day, so I avoided like the plague and I'll just have to wait 'til my next visit. After a quick trip outside the park for some dinner, we were able to score some rides on Buccaneer, the Dark Knight, Deja Vu, two rides on Houdini. We also got the first ride on SkyScreamer with the lights on and a ride on the Big Wheel before my mother out early. Before the park closed through, I was able to get rides on Super Round Up (or whatever it's called now), Green Lantern, and Superman, each with little to no wait. Overall, I'm disappointed that I couldn't get on the Safari, but I was able to get a bunch of enjoyable rides with not to much waiting.

 

Rating: 5 out of 6 flags

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use https://themeparkreview.com/forum/topic/116-terms-of-service-please-read/