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Apparently the park sent out an email saying that Kings Dominion will open on March 22nd! Oh, did I say March? I meant May. Alpengeist, InvadR and Verbolten are open tomorrow. This comp

Too bad Volcano isn't still around. It was ahead of its time not only technologically, but it already had limited capacity down to a science.

Kings Dominion is a very good park with some great rides but KD and BGW are headed in very opposite directions right now. Those things can both be true.

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"Face forward. . . . . . . . . . . Keep your head against the headrest. . . Your arms must be down. . . Prepare to launch."

 

 

I wish I could have ridden it. . .

 

Just once.

 

I only got one ride ever, but it really was something.

That launch was one of the most flat out intense things I've personally felt. Whole ride was, a short, weird burst of intensity. I do miss it, I'd love to experience that 0-80 in 1.8 seconds again but the wait times were a nightmare and someone had a good point, it was quite an eye sore and in all reality probably a subpar ride overall. The launch was insane though, felt less like movement to me more like a "you're here, then you're there" on the flip of a switch

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Maybe the craziest thing of all with Hypersonic was sitting there waiting to launch and it just looking impossible, the top of the spike was at over a 45 degree angle up from where you were sitting, that extra acceleration really shortens the launch length. It also was one of (?) the first coasters with extreme ejector air and lap bars ... the thing weighed the train to decide how much power to use!

 

I got a good number of rides on it, some with extreme waits, many with early entry (try that first thing in the morning), but the overall experience is more pleasant with Dominator.

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I got to ride Hypersonic several times over the course of two days back in 2006. It was one of the few coasters that has ever made me nervous haha. The launch was one of the most intense moments ever, on a coaster! I am really glad I got to ride it!

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I saw something interesting at I305 today that I'm hoping someone here can explain. A train was boarded and they proceeded to check the restraints. I'm guessing some error was being given so the ride ops had the restraints rechecked several times. They then had everyone get out and get back in the line. That train was sent around empty. They then loaded the riders into the next train but made an announcement that they had to sit on the opposite side from where they were originally sat. If you had been on the left, now sit on the right and vice versa. After several checks of the restraints that train was sent out. The empty train came around and the next riders boarded without issue.

 

I've seen a lot of technical difficulties, block resets, restraint resets etc. This was the first I've seen where they had everyone on the train switch sides. Is it a weight/balance issue? Are the restraints on one side larger and they needed to accommodate a larger guest but didn't want to single them out individually?

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Has anyone been to the park this week (or Saturdays previous) and seen them working? Maybe they don't plan to do anything all summer.

 

As of last weekend, Hurler deconstruction had proceeded to all the following taken down to the footers: the station exit and curve, the first curve after the drop, the 2 spots between the hills on the backstretch, and the entire descent from the curve through the structure (track cut off) to the final curve (track removed from supports). In addition to the previous track removal and 1st curve fence. A simple idea is the backstretch will go higher the first removal section and lower the second. Or maybe the structure exit turn could connect to the backstretch or 2nd hill of it. There are some rerouting options here, and maybe they're not done yet. It's crazy, abrupt looking. This is mainly as seen from Grizzly lift and high turn.

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Has anyone been to the park this week (or Saturdays previous) and seen them working? Maybe they don't plan to do anything all summer.

 

 

They were working this past Tuesday and yesterday. There are now pink survey flags on the outer edge of the service road where the first turn after the drop used to be.

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Has anyone been to the park this week (or Saturdays previous) and seen them working? Maybe they don't plan to do anything all summer.

 

 

They were working this past Tuesday and yesterday. There are now pink survey flags on the outer edge of the service road where the first turn after the drop used to be.

 

Why are they transforming Hurler then instead of building a ground up RMC? It seems like they are vastly expanding the layout.

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Why are they transforming Hurler then instead of building a ground up RMC? It seems like they are vastly expanding the layout.

 

Hurler needed it...it was cheaper...tax breaks for using existing structures...environmentally more friendly (less trees likely removed)... maybe they just felt like it...

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Why are they transforming Hurler then instead of building a ground up RMC? It seems like they are vastly expanding the layout.

 

Hurler needed it...it was cheaper...tax breaks for using existing structures...environmentally more friendly (less trees likely removed)... maybe they just felt like it...

 

Is having a part of the structure already built THAT much more cost effective? I mean so much of it was already removed to the point of several sticks of wood.

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I mentioned the main structure, but also: footers. Also I don't know if they would remove footers to build an entire new coaster, but I think they would, which would probably cost more than putting them in did. There's hundreds of them; for the curves they were in a sense half of the structure, since the wood supports weren't impressive. If a few footers become unused, that's different than all of them mismatching a new ride. And the space they have to fill here is the same size and shape as the old ride.

 

Of the RMCs, it's fairly agreed on that the weakest RMC is Goliath, which wasn't a rebuild, and the strongest is Lightning Rod, also not a rebuild, but also probably twice the cost of what they're spending here. The rebuilds are very competitive, and while they started with more on some of them, others weren't any bigger coasters than Hurler. The redesign process maybe even inspires by challenge a bit, the only coaster they designed from a truly clean slate is Goliath because all their other originals use the terrain and are better for it. Also it just seems wrong, environmentally, to tear down one wood coaster just to build another wood coaster, and perceptions can matter more than physical reality. And doesn't everybody love it when they can turn around a mistake back into the right thing?

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Seems to me that Medusa is at least as well liked as LR, just more seldom ridden.

 

Also wood is a sustainable industry btw, not an environmental threat.

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I love it, a lower tier (in terms of revenue) Cedar Fair park is getting an RMC conversion of a coaster that everyone hated to compliment the most intense giga coaster on earth and a multi launched Intamin invert that blasts out of a Volcano and people are bitching.

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^^--

 

Good point on Medusa, that reinforces my point (LR joke deleted).

 

TL:DR : There is no evidence a RMC rebuild makes for a less good ride, why spend the extra money? Keep in mind the largest piece of equipment they've used so far is a bucket truck...

 

BTW, you know, seeing some of the steel out behind the park I was thinking it looked like I-beams not track to me -- it just hit me maybe some of it is.

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Has anyone been to the park this week (or Saturdays previous) and seen them working? Maybe they don't plan to do anything all summer.

 

 

They were working this past Tuesday and yesterday. There are now pink survey flags on the outer edge of the service road where the first turn after the drop used to be.

 

Why are they transforming Hurler then instead of building a ground up RMC? It seems like they are vastly expanding the layout.

 

Please don't do this, you are getting an RMC. It is going to be great either way.

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Has anyone been to the park this week (or Saturdays previous) and seen them working? Maybe they don't plan to do anything all summer.

 

 

They were working this past Tuesday and yesterday. There are now pink survey flags on the outer edge of the service road where the first turn after the drop used to be.

 

Why are they transforming Hurler then instead of building a ground up RMC? It seems like they are vastly expanding the layout.

 

Please don't do this, you are getting an RMC. It is going to be great either way.

 

Yep--you're getting what could turn out to be another world-class coaster at Kings Dominion--or at least a damn good coaster in exchange for a damn bad one. Works for me.

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Has anyone been to the park this week (or Saturdays previous) and seen them working? Maybe they don't plan to do anything all summer.

 

 

They were working this past Tuesday and yesterday. There are now pink survey flags on the outer edge of the service road where the first turn after the drop used to be.

 

Why are they transforming Hurler then instead of building a ground up RMC? It seems like they are vastly expanding the layout.

 

Please don't do this, you are getting an RMC. It is going to be great either way.

 

I'm not complaining. I'm just surprised at how much they are removing. Usually the entire (or vast majority) of the structure is kept in conversions.

 

Really the only RMC I can complain about is The Joker. Not because of the ride itself, but because of the coaster choice. They should have gone with the SFA Roar instead of the SFDK one. Not only was the west coast Roar fully functional and not rough, but the conversion took away the park's only family-friendly coaster. With KD they have plenty of coasters suitable for families outside of Hurler.

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^ What else would you expect from the KD thread?

 

I don't get some (emphasis on some) of the hate for KD fanboys. Sure a (*ahem) population go overboard but at least they aren't complaining about a brand new coaster because of the lack of drop track.

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I had a great day at Kings Dominion on Saturday. I ended up buying the fast lane plus all season pass when they had go on sale. I figured I'm probably only going to go on Saturdays for the most part. Thrilled with my decision as we saved so much time. I don't know what the wait times actually were for some of these rides but most of the queues had pretty long lines.

 

This was my second visit to the park so I had only been on intimidator 305 two times previously and was really blown away at how intense the ride was as I felt like I could barely keep my eyes open in the front or back row. Now in the past month I went to Carowinds to ride fury 325 and enjoyed it so much that I couldn't wait to get back on intimidator again. I don't know if it was the heat but I really didn't enjoy it, maybe it was just Fury has ruined me or maybe I'm just getting old but I felt like I had my ass kicked. I sat in the second row since the fast lane plus puts you into the station with no way of getting in the front row line. I'm definitely going to give it another shot, maybe at night when it's not so hot.

 

I saw all the hurler work going on from the other rides but I don't know nor care enough about the details to even comment other than I can't wait for it to open since I've loved the 2 RMC coasters I've been on(wicked cyclone and new Texas giant)

 

My one complaint about the park since it's been such a topic over in the great adventure thread is that on my first ride on grizzly during the day someone took out a cell phone on the lift and they stopped the train and the operator was saying sir put your phone away. This selfish idiot took a few minutes before actually listening and putting it away. I couldn't see who had it out but nobody was talked to after the ride ended. All parks need to get more strict about this and just start throwing people out. Make some examples out of people so at least some will think twice about it.

 

That being said I also had my first night ride on grizzly and that was so much damn fun. It felt so much faster than during the day and it was so dark that both factors just increased how much damn fun it was.

 

Overall an amazing day at a really enjoyable park.

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