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P. 766: Haunt Has Risen from the Grave

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They closed Hurler during the 2014 season as scheduled to allow a haunt maze to operate within its structure. That had nothing to do with its permanent closure. They didn't reopen it for the 2015 season, and I'm inclined to believe that was somewhat of a last minute decision/forced decision because of potential structural issues/dire need of retracking.

 

They probably put out bids before the 2015 season for retracking and RMC came in with the most attractive offer and that (this is entirely speculation) was signed late in the 2015 season (as they originally said it would reopen in 2016 and they really have no reason to lie about that). Once that deal was signed, 2018 was finalized. Even if they could've rushed and gotten it done for 2017 and started work during the 2016 season, what's the point? They probably had already decided on the Planet Snoopy expansion by then.

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Does KD have a haunt this year? Their park website is showing that they are closed after Labor Day this year. I can't believe they wouldn't do it here but it's odd that almost every other park has their hours for the whole year on lock and they don't. I definitely hope it's a glitch on the website rather than an early close to the season....

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Both PKD & Cedar Point have new coasters opening up less than 2 hour drive from them now. Invadr at BGW and Mystic Timbers at PKI. Not sure if they would like the overlap or want the limelight to themselves. Just a thought on the seeming long rebuilds. It also gives RMC something to do in the "off season".

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Is mentioning RMC Hurler allowed?

 

Walk me through your thought process...

 

So you're not sure if you're allowed to mention RMC Hurler on TPR and in order to find out, you decide that you should immediately mention RMC Hurler on TPR. Really?

 

To answer the question, yes. But why the hell wouldn't you just read through the thread or PM someone if you're not sure rather than breaking a rule that you think might exist in order to figure out if it exists?

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Is mentioning RMC Hurler allowed?

 

Walk me through your thought process...

 

So you're not sure if you're allowed to mention RMC Hurler on TPR and in order to find out, you decide that you should immediately mention RMC Hurler on TPR. Really?

 

To answer the question, yes. But why the hell wouldn't you just read through the thread or PM someone if you're not sure rather than breaking a rule that you think might exist in order to figure out if it exists?

 

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Is mentioning RMC Hurler allowed?

 

Walk me through your thought process...

 

So you're not sure if you're allowed to mention RMC Hurler on TPR and in order to find out, you decide that you should immediately mention RMC Hurler on TPR. Really?

 

To answer the question, yes. But why the hell wouldn't you just read through the thread or PM someone if you're not sure rather than breaking a rule that you think might exist in order to figure out if it exists?

 

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Words cannot describe how excited I am to have an RMC less than two hours away from me, and in the same park as Volcano and especially I305. This will give the park the airtime machine they've been missing.

 

Really the only thing I'd want to see from here on out at this park is maybe a bonafide woodie like Mystic Timbers (GCI return of Grizzly maybe?). Otherwise Kings Dominion's lineup is 100% set both coaster and flat ride wise.

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Really the only thing I'd want to see from here on out at this park is maybe a bonafide woodie like Mystic Timbers (GCI return of Grizzly maybe?).

 

The park has FOUR woodies and one of them is currently being RMC'd. But one more woodie? What makes the other three "non-bonafide" woodies? The definition of bonafide is "real". Is this like when enthusiasts complain about El Toro - the completely wooden coaster made entirely out of wood - is not reeeaaaallly a wooden coaster?

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Really the only thing I'd want to see from here on out at this park is maybe a bonafide woodie like Mystic Timbers (GCI return of Grizzly maybe?).

 

The park has FOUR woodies and one of them is currently being RMC'd. But one more woodie? What makes the other three "non-bonafide" woodies? The definition of bonafide is "real". Is this like when enthusiasts complain about El Toro - the completely wooden coaster made entirely out of wood - is not reeeaaaallly a wooden coaster?

 

Really it has two because Iron Hurler will not be wooden and Woodstock Express is a kids coaster (albeit a very good one). I mean a GG or GCI woodie like Prowler or Mystic Timbers. And like I said I can live with a refurbish of Grizzly too.

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Really the only thing I'd want to see from here on out at this park is maybe a bonafide woodie like Mystic Timbers (GCI return of Grizzly maybe?).

 

The park has FOUR woodies and one of them is currently being RMC'd. But one more woodie? What makes the other three "non-bonafide" woodies? The definition of bonafide is "real". Is this like when enthusiasts complain about El Toro - the completely wooden coaster made entirely out of wood - is not reeeaaaallly a wooden coaster?

 

Really it has two because Iron Hurler will not be wooden and Woodstock Express is a kids coaster (albeit a very good one). I mean a GG or GCI woodie like Prowler or Mystic Timbers. And like I said I can live with a refurbish of Grizzly too.

 

I do not believe that Boldikus counted Hurler.

1. Grizzly

2. Woodstock Express

3. Rebel Yell A

4. Rebel Yell B

 

All ARE bonafide wooden coasters. So what if they're on the older, or less thrilling side? Do I think the park could benefit from a modern woodie? Yes. But it's not necessary right now.

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Good point, I guess you could technically count Rebel as two. We'll count them for the credit whores.

 

So that's FIVE woodies. FIVE!!!

 

Keep dreamin, you ain't gettin' a GCI.

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Really the only thing I'd want to see from here on out at this park is maybe a bonafide woodie like Mystic Timbers (GCI return of Grizzly maybe?).

 

The park has FOUR woodies and one of them is currently being RMC'd. But one more woodie? What makes the other three "non-bonafide" woodies? The definition of bonafide is "real". Is this like when enthusiasts complain about El Toro - the completely wooden coaster made entirely out of wood - is not reeeaaaallly a wooden coaster?

 

Really it has two because Iron Hurler will not be wooden and Woodstock Express is a kids coaster (albeit a very good one). I mean a GG or GCI woodie like Prowler or Mystic Timbers. And like I said I can live with a refurbish of Grizzly too.

 

I do not believe that Boldikus counted Hurler.

1. Grizzly

2. Woodstock Express

3. Rebel Yell A

4. Rebel Yell B

 

All ARE bonafide wooden coasters. So what if they're on the older, or less thrilling side? Do I think the park could benefit from a modern woodie? Yes. But it's not necessary right now.

 

If not then Grizzly should get a refurbishment of some sort, either by GCI like Ghostrider or in house like Thunderhawk. I like it but it could be better if it was less brutally shaky.

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The only thing a GCI does that an RMC doesn't is close an imaginary hole created by enthusiasts. Apart from going upside down, I find their experiences to be fairly similar.

 

Is this like when enthusiasts complain about El Toro - the completely wooden coaster made entirely out of wood - is not reeeaaaallly a wooden coaster?

 

I don't understand what goes on in the minds of those people.

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^^ It's an old wooden coaster. It tried to eat my rib and I still thought Grizzly was pretty great. Old woodies are not supposed to ride like new B&Ms. Man up or stop holding up the line!

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If not then Grizzly should get a refurbishment of some sort, either by GCI like Ghostrider or in house like Thunderhawk. I like it but it could be better if it was less brutally shaky.

 

Grizzly was a great ride when I rode it in 2015. If it was fine after 33 years it should be fine after another 2.

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I do not believe that Boldikus counted Hurler.

1. Grizzly

2. Woodstock Express

3. Rebel Yell A

4. Rebel Yell B

 

All ARE bonafide wooden coasters. So what if they're on the older, or less thrilling side? Do I think the park could benefit from a modern woodie? Yes. But it's not necessary right now.

 

If not then Grizzly should get a refurbishment of some sort, either by GCI like Ghostrider or in house like Thunderhawk. I like it but it could be better if it was less brutally shaky.

 

Good point, I guess you could technically count Rebel as two. We'll count them for the credit whores.

 

So that's FIVE woodies. FIVE!!!

 

Keep dreamin, you ain't gettin' a GCI.

 

I mean we were told we'd never get an RMC either. Cedar Fair really likes the company so it would not surprise me to see KD get a product from them sometime in the future.

 

The only thing a GCI does that an RMC doesn't is close an imaginary hole created by enthusiasts. Apart from going upside down, I find their experiences to be fairly similar.

 

LOL wut? GCIs and RMCs are nothing alike. One feels like a wooden coaster and the other feels like a steel coaster.

 

Otherwise Discovery Kingdom would have kept Roar instead of converting it into The Joker.

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Good point, I guess you could technically count Rebel as two. We'll count them for the credit whores.

 

So that's FIVE woodies. FIVE!!!

 

Keep dreamin, you ain't gettin' a GCI.

 

I mean we were told we'd never get an RMC either. Cedar Fair really likes the company so it would not surprise me to see KD get a product from them sometime in the future.

 

How far in the future we talkin?

 

Go on...

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Really the only thing I'd want to see from here on out at this park is maybe a bonafide woodie like Mystic Timbers (GCI return of Grizzly maybe?).

 

The park has FOUR woodies and one of them is currently being RMC'd. But one more woodie? What makes the other three "non-bonafide" woodies? The definition of bonafide is "real". Is this like when enthusiasts complain about El Toro - the completely wooden coaster made entirely out of wood - is not reeeaaaallly a wooden coaster?

 

Really it has two because Iron Hurler will not be wooden and Woodstock Express is a kids coaster (albeit a very good one). I mean a GG or GCI woodie like Prowler or Mystic Timbers. And like I said I can live with a refurbish of Grizzly too.

 

I do not believe that Boldikus counted Hurler.

1. Grizzly

2. Woodstock Express

3. Rebel Yell A

4. Rebel Yell B

 

All ARE bonafide wooden coasters. So what if they're on the older, or less thrilling side? Do I think the park could benefit from a modern woodie? Yes. But it's not necessary right now.

 

If not then Grizzly should get a refurbishment of some sort, either by GCI like Ghostrider or in house like Thunderhawk. I like it but it could be better if it was less brutally shaky.

 

Good point, I guess you could technically count Rebel as two. We'll count them for the credit whores.

 

So that's FIVE woodies. FIVE!!!

 

Keep dreamin, you ain't gettin' a GCI.

 

I mean we were told we'd never get an RMC either. Cedar Fair really likes the company so it would not surprise me to see KD get a product from them sometime in the future.

 

The only thing a GCI does that an RMC doesn't is close an imaginary hole created by enthusiasts. Apart from going upside down and shaking less, I find their experiences to be fairly similar.

 

LOL wut? GCIs and RMCs are nothing alike. One feels like a wooden coaster and the other feels like a steel coaster.

 

Is that better?

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Good point, I guess you could technically count Rebel as two. We'll count them for the credit whores.

 

So that's FIVE woodies. FIVE!!!

 

Keep dreamin, you ain't gettin' a GCI.

 

I mean we were told we'd never get an RMC either. Cedar Fair really likes the company so it would not surprise me to see KD get a product from them sometime in the future.

 

How far in the future we talkin?

 

Go on...

 

I don't know, maybe 2022 or 2023. I think the RMC will improve the park's ROI enough.

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