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It's unfortunate that KD overhyped this addition, but it's a nice addition. Not needed, but nice. Announcements are all about expectations.

 

2017 is an interesting year for CF parks. It is the first year since 2008 (excluding 2011) where they did not add a huge new B&M to one of their parks.

 

2008: Behemoth

2009: Diamondback

2010: Intimidator

2012: Leviathan

2013: GateKeeper

2014: Banshee

2015: Fury 325

2016: Valravn

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Wait, there is actually going to be a safari-themed ride in Safari Village? Is that allowed? 🤣

My money, in all seriousness, is on Tiki Twirl.  CF already has a logo drawn up and everything.

He has a lot more history with Kings Dominion than just 2 years. You also forgot that Carnival and Winterfest also came in under him (I know they aren't rides, but I feel they are big improvements for

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HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW . . . did KD overhype anything? Lets take a step out of our little bubble people and realize, The only ones who overhyped anyhing is OURSELVES! It kills me, when the park doesn't get what WE want them to get then everything they did was overhyped. Again, you all hyped YOURSELVES up. As someone said, they are using snoopy so it was probably gonna be something for kids. You guys dismissed that with the quickness because it was too logical of thinking and not what the one (coaster)track mind-ers wanted.

 

I guess this is what happens to a park when the local government denies tax breaks and incentives. lol

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It's unfortunate that KD overhyped this addition, but it's a nice addition. Not needed, but nice. Announcements are all about expectations.

 

This was already discussed, but I don't think KD overhyped this at all. I blame overeager enthusiasts and fanboys who read WAY too into most of it and extrapolated outrageous guesses based on minimal info.

 

I get that the Hurler announcement is disappointing, but all the park did was announce it wouldn't open this year. They never once hyped up anything around its reopening.

 

It is the first year since 2008 (excluding 2011)

 

So you mean it's the first time since 2011 then?

 

That's the perfect example of trying to manipulate data in order to support whatever argument you're trying to make.

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When was the last time the ride was somewhat popular?

 

i rode it the day it opened. it was a disappointment from day one. the video of Mike Myers telling you how the coaster restraints work was probably the best part, and that is really saying something. the layout is boring and not fun. and Paramount didn't take care of it, which only made things worse.

 

part of the reason the layout is so weird is because originally they were going to have rock bands play concerts on a stage in the wide open area between the lift hill and the back turnaround. obviously that never came to pass, but the coaster's dumb layout was designed to accommodate that idea.

 

You do realize the Hurler clones are mirrored images of Thunder Run at Kentucky Kingdom, right? The coaster wasn't designed to have a stage in the middle of the big turnaround, that's how the original clone was.

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When was the last time the ride was somewhat popular?

 

i rode it the day it opened. it was a disappointment from day one. the video of Mike Myers telling you how the coaster restraints work was probably the best part, and that is really saying something. the layout is boring and not fun. and Paramount didn't take care of it, which only made things worse.

 

part of the reason the layout is so weird is because originally they were going to have rock bands play concerts on a stage in the wide open area between the lift hill and the back turnaround. obviously that never came to pass, but the coaster's dumb layout was designed to accommodate that idea.

 

You do realize the Hurler clones are mirrored images of Thunder Run at Kentucky Kingdom, right? The coaster wasn't designed to have a stage in the middle of the big turnaround, that's how the original clone was.

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Definitely a surprise to me given the recent expansion, but it's something new for families, which is never a bad thing.

 

CF is probably just sitting back now getting a kick out of watching all of the over-entitled whiners on Facebook, Twitter...and to an extent, this forum thread have their hissy fits first before they announce Iron Hurler.

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^^^^I think he said 2008 because that was the first full year CF took over the old Paramount parks, but yes, still a manipulative way to present data.

 

All I can do is LOL at the kids who are crying like little babies. One day when you're an adult you can move and make whichever park you desire be your home park. Just make it be the one that CF "likes" the most!

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I think it's all over

 

Time to #Cut4KD

 

I fail to see how a park not getting a new thrill ride or a new coaster for next year is "the end". KD is not going to be Geauga'd just because the announcement was for a few new kiddie rides.

 

 

In terms of my opinion of this new expansion. As I said, I'm pretty ambivalent about it. Sure, Iron Hurler or a new B&M would have been cool, but I'm not going to flip out over those things not being true.

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I think it's all over

 

Time to #Cut4KD

 

I'm sorry, but I fail to see how a park not getting a new thrill ride or a new coaster for next year is "the end" if that's what you're getting at. KD is not going to be Geauga'd just because the announcement was for a few new kiddie rides.

 

Yep they still got investment which is good. Dominator is not getting re-assembled again for a third home.

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The one thing that I would say crosses the line of "misleading" is the pic of Snoopy poking around at the Hurler site. I can't really think of any other examples of a park graphically suggesting that an announcement would pertain to a coaster when it ended up being the exact opposite. That's a clear troll in my book. The continued delay of answering "will it / won't it" for Hurler to even operate again has got to be a little maddening too. Beyond that, it's a business and they know their needs better than we do, so all of the other hype points directly back to us...

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^^^^I think he said 2008 because that was the first full year CF took over the old Paramount parks, but yes, still a manipulative way to present data.

 

I guess you're right. My point was that Cedar Fair is straying away from the norm in 2017 by not adding a B&M. Whether that's a good or bad thing, I don't know. Just making an observation, that's all. I could have presented that better.

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Any chance there's a coaster in 2018?

 

So you are asking if there is more than a 0.0000000001% chance of a coaster in 2018? Seriously, stop trolling, last warning!

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Even though I'm not completely a fanboy.

This has got to be a joke.

Cedar Fair just announced the closing of one of their parks.

Their stockholders are upset.

They need a BIG announcement to get their stockholders interested.

3 new kiddie rides, wi-fi, a kiddie pass, and a picture service is not a terribly BIG announcement.

Also:

Planet Snoopy Expansion Year Difference: 2013-2017

New Roller Coaster: 2010-Michigan's Adventure status

 

 

Do you have the names of these upset stockholders? Myself and the other stockholders I've talked to are enjoying the profits and decisions this company is making. The only people upset are self-serving or self-entitled.

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So.. should I lose all hope in this park and drive up to carowinds and bgw instead? Speaking of Carowinds how far is it from Richmond va and is it even worth the drive?

 

I understand that this isn't the time or the thread for rational thinking but personally KD might still be my favorite park in the chain after Cedar Point. I prefer it to Ki, Knotts, Carowinds, Dorney and Wonderland for sure. KI might have a better coaster lineup (debatable) but KD has much nicer atmosphere, great flats and a spectacular log flume.

 

Anyway go back to your relentless bitching.

 

we loved it when we visited last year, and they have a really great woodie in Woodstock Express (that many folks skip, since it's a junior coaster)

 

Even after visiting BGW, we still very much enjoyed this park (other than Hurler, of course, which beat the crappola out of us).

 

but any park with such a great kids section, as well as the Tower, Volcano, Intimidator, that amazing Drop Tower, and a really decent bobsleds?

 

I just don't get the complaining.

 

but oh well. . most of those complaining seem rather young, so maybe they will learn to appreciate what they have instead of bitching about what they wish they had.

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I feel the most sorry about this announcement for those who booked campout tickets/drove long distances just to watch in person. This is certainly a disappointment for many locals and longtime KD fans/coaster enthusiasts, although this is most likely not "the beginning of the end". I'll trust that the people in the CF/KD offices know what they're doing with this one. Keep your fingers crossed for 2018, and please refrain from personal attacks. A disappointing announcement doesn't mean we should tear each other apart.

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Here is the press release regarding the park's 2017 announcement.

 

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More Fun, More Laughs and More Thrills Coming to Kings Dominion in 2017

Planet Snoopy will feature new family rides and amenities plus FREE admission to children 3-5 years old

 

DOSWELL, VA. (August 20, 2016) - The world’s largest PEANUTS™-themed children’s area is growing again! Kings Dominion announced plans to expand the Planet Snoopy area of the park in 2017. Additions include three family rides, a new event space, and upgraded food and beverage locations. Plus, children three to five years of age can experience all that Planet Snoopy has to offer for FREE with the brand new Kings Dominion Pre-K Pass.

 

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Brand new family-friendly rides include:

 

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· Kite Eating Tree – Charlie Brown’s kite is stuck in a tree again, can you help get it down? On this family ride, guests will be propelled to the top of the tower and bounce down to the platform as they experience sensations of weightlessness.

 

 

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· Sally’s Sea Plane – Join Sally as she soars through the air high above the sea! Kids and their parents are in store for an adventure with a trip on Sally’s airplane. Take a trip round-and-round on this giant plane as it rotates and rises into the air.

 

 

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· Peanuts™500 – Pick your car and rev up the engine with the Peanuts™ crew on this fun car ride that is the perfect size for your little racers. Start your engines and hit the track in race cars designed for parents and children to ride together as they move in a circle and whip around the corner on a closed track.

 

This latest expansion to the 14-acre kid’s area brings the total number of rides in Planet Snoopy to 20. All of the rides are designed for families to experience together.

 

In celebration of the Planet Snoopy additions, the limited-time Kings Dominion Pre-K Pass is brand new for 2017 and grants complimentary admission to children ages three to five years for the entire 2017 season. Online registration for the Pre-K Pass is available beginning August 20 and can be processed at the park beginning September 3. The Pre-K Pass includes one free visit during the fall of 2016 to enjoy the Great Pumpkin Fest in Planet Snoopy which begins on September 24. Visit kingsdominion.com for further information.

 

In addition, 2017 Season Passes are on sale now at the lowest price of the year.

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ADMIN EDIT:

 

Oh, boo-hoo. So the park didn't cater to YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCES this time around so you're going to throw a crying fit?

 

Banned for our page.

 

I simply will NOT tolerate crap like this anymore.

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I understand that enthusiasts want coasters and I admit I did not see all the teasers. However, I went back through this thread and copied the first three teasers I found, all were released between August 16th and August 18th.

 

How to do teases promise anything big? The only connective tissue in the pictures and comments is Snoopy. The clues do not point to something big. Again I'll admit maybe there are more clues I'm missing so please share them.

 

Has Kings Dominion or Cedar Fair ever used Snoopy to tease a huge coaster?

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