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P. 767: WinterFest Media Night Report

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Okay to anybody saying a hyper would have created more hype before the announcement... Look at Dominator and I305. Dominator was just randomly announced and we didn't know about I305 until track started showing up.

 

no way. even before track started showing up, there were lots of rumors of a large coaster being added to KD. Also a lot of land clearing, and other signs. This is NOTHING like that.

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Everybody here could be wrong it could end up being winterfest and a new show, But guessing is what's fun it doesn't have to be logical all the time.

Guessing is fun until someone like madax starts going after everyone who points out his obvious BS and logical fallacies.

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I'm not saying it is a hyper. I don't actually think it will be (I wish it was but ya know...) I'm just saying that saying there would be more hype is not good reasoning as KD rarely ever hypes anything up.

 

Okay to anybody saying a hyper would have created more hype before the announcement... Look at Dominator and I305. Dominator was just randomly announced and we didn't know about I305 until track started showing up.

 

no way. even before track started showing up, there were lots of rumors of a large coaster being added to KD. Also a lot of land clearing, and other signs. This is NOTHING like that.

Well. There's land clearing near I305. And there definitely are a lot of rumors. As I said before, I don't even think a hyper is coming. But I'm just saying.

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Well, they certainly seen to be hyping things a bit this year. If you guys don't typically see that, maybe it does "mean" something. What it DOES NOT mean, is that there is a Hyper coming in 2017, because there's absolutely ZERO reason to think that. If it is indeed RMC Hurler, that will more than adequately fill any alleged "gaps" in the park's lineup...

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Well, they certainly seen to be hyping things a bit this year. If you guys don't typically see that, maybe it does "mean" something. What it DOES NOT mean, is that there is a Hyper coming in 2017, because there's absolutely ZERO reason to think that. If it is indeed RMC Hurler, that will more than adequately fill any alleged "gaps" in the park's lineup...

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Just in case:

 

 

LIFE CYCLE OF A "NEW COASTER" THREAD ON TPR

 

1. After months of rumors and speculation, the ride is announced. The ride is immediately hit with negative views because it didn't live up to the hype coasterboy2194210 had set when he heard from his friend's uncle that it was going to be a 900 foot prototype.

2. Complaints about: The name, the stats, the colors, the trains, and the station layout, sometimes all in the same post. This is based off a crudely done 3D video.

3. Random new threads pop up in the next few weeks, breaking the news of the brand new coaster, even though the original thread is probably still on the first page near the top.

4. People start complaining about the lack of construction, and wonder if the ride will be finished on time.

5. Construction starts, people start complaining about the lack of construction updates. No pictures from 2:35 this afternoon? But another piece had been put up!!!

6. Criticism over the differences between the constructed portions versus the concept art begin. Page upon page of bitter feuding on whether the angle of descent was incorrect begins.

7. The construction is finished. People start complaining about the lack of testing, and wonder if the ride will be finished on time.

8. Testing starts, people start complaining about the lack of testing updates. No pictures from 2:35 this afternoon? But another train has been cycled!!!

9. Someone rides the coaster and reports back. If the review is so-so to good, the person obviously caught it on a bad early run. If the review is glowing, the person obviously hasn't ridden many coasters.

10. The ride opens. The fanboys descend en masse, declaring the ride the best coaster to ever touch god's green earth. Wild claims are thrown out, like the coaster is able to cure cancer, and has ejector airtime even on the brake run and station.

11. A well-travelled, highly regarded TPR member finally rides it, and gives a good but not great review. Fanboys cry foul, saying the person rode it on an off-day.

12. Pages upon pages of comparison to every single amusement ride known to man ensue.

13. As more people ride, the reviews eventually settle into a particular area (bad, moderate, good, great, excellent) and people stop posting in the thread.

14. Meanwhile, dirt has been dug up somewhere else in the park...the cycle begins again.

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I may be burned at the stake for saying this but I hope they don't RMC Hurler. I've had a change of heart. Seriously, since that mysterious green B&M is still up for grabs, I'd like to see it brought to KD. Just tear down Hurler and put the B&M there. Hopefully it's a launch wing coaster. Now for my reason...I don't want Cedar Fair to do the Six Flags thing. Convert wooden coasters to Hybrids. I'd rather CF just bring in RMC and build coasters from the ground up like Silver Dollar City and Dollywood did. I'm very much thinking this is what Cedar Point is going to do in Mean Streak's spot...So really...I'd prefer Cedar Point to get the first RMC in the CF chain. But if I'm wrong, it's not a big deal...I'll still ride that RMC'd Hurler with a smile on my face.

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I may be burned at the stake for saying this but I hope they don't RMC Hurler. I've had a change of heart. Seriously, since that mysterious green B&M is still up for grabs, I'd like to see it brought to KD. Just tear down Hurler and put the B&M there. Hopefully it's a launch wing coaster. Now for my reason...I don't want Cedar Fair to do the Six Flags thing. Convert wooden coasters to Hybrids. I'd rather CF just bring in RMC and build coasters from the ground up like Silver Dollar City and Dollywood did. I'm very much thinking this is what Cedar Point is going to do in Mean Streak's spot...So really...I'd prefer Cedar Point to get the first RMC in the CF chain. But if I'm wrong, it's not a big deal...I'll still ride that RMC'd Hurler with a smile on my face.

 

Probably will be an RMC.

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Here's another thought...Is Cedar Fair through with Triotech? Not one dark ride or Interactive experience announced today. I was expecting something like that but no. Canada's Wonderland already has a Triotech. MiA would be an almost impossibility. This leaves only KD...And they've been teasing the hell out of Hurler...so I'm thinking 2 years without Triotech, maybe Cedar Fair wasn't that happy with them after all.

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Everybody here could be wrong it could end up being winterfest and a new show, But guessing is what's fun it doesn't have to be logical all the time.

Guessing is fun until someone like madax starts going after everyone who points out his obvious BS and logical fallacies.

 

Nothing wrong with fallacies.

 

EDIT:

 

A fallacy is a mistake in reasoning, but doesn't mean that someone's argument is wrong.

 

Fun fact: It's a fallacy to assume someone is wrong because their argument contains a fallacy.

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Well, they certainly seen to be hyping things a bit this year. If you guys don't typically see that, maybe it does "mean" something. What it DOES NOT mean, is that there is a Hyper coming in 2017, because there's absolutely ZERO reason to think that. If it is indeed RMC Hurler, that will more than adequately fill any alleged "gaps" in the park's lineup...

 

Please take your "sound logic" and "common sense" and get out. There's no place for that type of crap here.

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Well, they certainly seen to be hyping things a bit this year. If you guys don't typically see that, maybe it does "mean" something. What it DOES NOT mean, is that there is a Hyper coming in 2017, because there's absolutely ZERO reason to think that. If it is indeed RMC Hurler, that will more than adequately fill any alleged "gaps" in the park's lineup...

 

Please take your "sound logic" and "common sense" and get out. There's no place for that type of crap here.

 

I literally laughed out loud!

 

Seriously though, I almost felt like I was spoiling the fanboy dreaming bringing that in here, but I felt it had to be done. I'm still trying to figure out why anybody's talking about anything NOT related to Hurler??? At this point, I'm convinced it's either going to be RMC'd (My prediction, and to be honest, hope), or GCI'd. Anything else, would be surprising, from analyzing the situation's progression.

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If it is a coaster, which do you think is more likely? RMC Hurler or a wing rider?

 

Where the hell did you get wing rider from?

 

It's definitely looking like hurler will become the first coaster in the Cedar Fair chain to get the Iron Horse!

 

Because of the track found at the factory (and to replace Hurler's spot). But I think the RMC is most likely.

 

Predictions:

 

110 ft tall

Inverted drop

3500 ft (I think they will expand the layout believe it or not)

55-60 mph

3 inversions

Ineractions with Grizzly

 

CENTURION (yup, I'm predicting they're finally using that trademark).

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TIME FOR PREDICTION THAT MIGHT MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER TO SOME PEOPLE

 

Well, Snoopy.

 

He's in the teasers.

 

What does Snoopy have to do with Hurler?

 

Not much...

 

But what is Snoopy?

 

The Flying Ace

 

What kind of coaster kind of sounds like this?

 

A flying coaster.

 

What major company that works with Cedar Fair that makes flying coasters?

 

B&M.

 

B&M Flying Coaster for 2017?

 

That's my shot at making this thread go insane.

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