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P. 767: WinterFest Media Night Report

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Dominator is easily the smoothest B&M floorless I've ever been on, It's also the best. And I've been on a lot of them.

THIS

 

I usually stay out of Dominator discussions because I know I'm one of the only people that doesn't notice a rattle, anywhere. Unless my head is literally pressed up against the restraint I've never noticed anything less than buttery smooth. And it's also fairly intense (more than Bizarro and Hydra, at least--up there with Rougarou).

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Okay, nobody can argue that Dominator doesn't rattle in the corkscrews

 

Dominator is easily the smoothest B&M floorless I've ever been on, It's also the best. And I've been on a lot of them.

 

I know I'm one of the only people that doesn't notice a rattle, anywhere. Unless my head is literally pressed up against the restraint I've never noticed anything less than buttery smooth. And it's also fairly intense (more than Bizarro and Hydra, at least--up there with Rougarou).

 

Counting me that makes 3 people. So clearly we can.

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Announcement on the 20th? Oh boy, more waiting. As for my speculation, if we got Valleyfair's Enterprise I'd be stoked. Enterprises are one of my favorite flats. Possible RMC Hurler? That'd be awesome! And, with Carowinds and Kings Island being rumored for it, I'm gonna say KD may end up getting this 'Winterfest' as well.

 

As for Dominator, I've had a rattle...once? Twice? It was back in 2012 or some time around that, and I at least haven't had it since. And isn't the kink in the loop from when it was moved from Geauga Lake?

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Announcement on the 20th? Oh boy, more waiting. As for my speculation, if we got Valleyfair's Enterprise I'd be stoked. Enterprises are one of my favorite flats. Possible RMC Hurler? That'd be awesome! And, with Carowinds and Kings Island being rumored for it, I'm gonna say KD may end up getting this 'Winterfest' as well.

 

As for Dominator, I've had a rattle...once? Twice? It was back in 2012 or some time around that, and I at least haven't had it since. And isn't the kink in the loop from when it was moved from Geauga Lake?

 

That's my prediction: RMC Hurler, new enterprise, and winterfest.

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Is it me but would an RMC hurler be kinda pointless? All hurler does is turn right with some hills in between. There is no directional change, the entire coaster barely goes back over 30ft after the first drop, and it has one of the most uninspired layouts. If you look, most rmc iron horse coasters have a somewhat twisted layout to begin with. I just don't see an RMC hurler . . .

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Is it me but would an RMC hurler be kinda pointless? All hurler does is turn right with some hills in between. There is no directional change, the entire coaster barely goes back over 30ft after the first drop, and it has one of the most uninspired layouts. If you look, most rmc iron horse coasters have a somewhat twisted layout to begin with. I just don't see an RMC hurler . . .

 

I agree, I feel like they'd need to add a significant amount of structure to the ride which defeats the purpose of the Iron Horse conversion.

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Is it me but would an RMC hurler be kinda pointless? All hurler does is turn right with some hills in between. There is no directional change, the entire coaster barely goes back over 30ft after the first drop, and it has one of the most uninspired layouts. If you look, most rmc iron horse coasters have a somewhat twisted layout to begin with. I just don't see an RMC hurler . . .

 

Take a look at the old NE Cyclone's layout. Then take a look at Wicked Cyclone.

 

No it wouldn't be pointless.

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Is it me but would an RMC hurler be kinda pointless? All hurler does is turn right with some hills in between. There is no directional change, the entire coaster barely goes back over 30ft after the first drop, and it has one of the most uninspired layouts. If you look, most rmc iron horse coasters have a somewhat twisted layout to begin with. I just don't see an RMC hurler . . .

 

Take a look at the old NE Cyclone's layout. Then take a look at Wicked Cyclone.

 

No it wouldn't be pointless.

 

This. But people never learn. Have faith in RMC.

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Is it me but would an RMC hurler be kinda pointless? All hurler does is turn right with some hills in between. There is no directional change, the entire coaster barely goes back over 30ft after the first drop, and it has one of the most uninspired layouts. If you look, most rmc iron horse coasters have a somewhat twisted layout to begin with. I just don't see an RMC hurler . . .

 

Take a look at the old NE Cyclone's layout. Then take a look at Wicked Cyclone.

 

No it wouldn't be pointless.

You mean this layout?

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That has height variation and does more than make right turns? In my opinion, RMC would meet their biggest challenge with hurler as most of their conversions had a layout with character and depth to begin with. We will see . . .

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Hurler offers less stuff there for a layout conversion, there's surely times the RMC designs just cut down the original height of the track section, vs. the same elements would require adding height to Hurler. It seems a square peg in a round hole. What I've suggested (and suggested...) is that there's very little that needs work outside of the first 2 big curves, and there used to be a video on RMC's site that showed a coaster with Topper track on one curve only and camera shaking dropped noticably there. That would be fairly cheap (and actually, with the simplicity of the shapes, could certainly be done several ways by other companies or maybe even in-house). Take it even further, maybe I-Box those turns, do a lot of other work, put on much better trains and you could have the smoothest coaster in the park. That might seem "neutered" but it sure would be different!

 

I thought it was a fun ride. Different coasters do different things, its design kept the speed up, you can't do that and soar on big hills at the same time. Those are different than this, this is different from those. You could claim it's a cheap ride compared to the towering kind, it kind of was, but it's a little ingenious too.

 

Replacing it with a new coaster could be great, but frankly replacing another coaster with a flat ride would be such a slap in the face they'd be better leaving it SNBO.

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Be careful! Or you will be criticized for your "Ridiculous speculation"!

 

Trying to interpret actual hints when the park is openly teasing something is much different than spewing random crap just because you want the park to get something and it fit properly when you tried it in Rollercoaster Tycoon. Nobody is going to go after this post. If you get called out for ridiculous speculation it's because it's ridiculous.

Relax, it's just a joke.

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I've heard there was survey markers around hurler.. Can anyone confirm this?

Saw some posts on Instagram with white markers on the asphalt around Hurler, whether or not they're for anything important, time will tell.

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In all honesty, I couldn't see Hurler being RMC'd simply because the layout just wouldn't provide enough for them to work with. My home park is Kentucky Kingdom and the Thunder Run woodie is literally identical to Hurler, yet after riding it about 10 times in one day I don't really know what RMC could do with Hurler. Now, RMC did come in and retrack Thunder Run before it reopened in 2014, so maybe RMC may be coming in and retracking it, but I don't see how they could do a full on Topper Track/I-Box treatment to the coaster. There's really just not enough on the layout for them to make something out of it.

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In all honesty, I couldn't see Hurler being RMC'd simply because the layout just wouldn't provide enough for them to work with. My home park is Kentucky Kingdom and the Thunder Run woodie is literally identical to Hurler, yet after riding it about 10 times in one day I don't really know what RMC could do with Hurler. Now, RMC did come in and retrack Thunder Run before it reopened in 2014, so maybe RMC may be coming in and retracking it, but I don't see how they could do a full on Topper Track/I-Box treatment to the coaster. There's really just not enough on the layout for them to make something out of it.

 

KD already hinted that they were going to replace Hurler so retracking it goes out the window.

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