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P. 767: WinterFest Media Night Report

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Well it looks like Cedar Point stole Kings Dominion's old woodie removal. Maybe next year

 

Nah, Hurler can still be torn the hell down. It wouldn't surprise me at all with zero work being done even at this point and rumors that they don't know what to do with it.

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Bill seems to feel as strongly about the flume as I do about the rapids next door - now that's a good rapids ride.

 

Meh...I think that this one is pretty lame compared to Thunder Canyon at CP or Dorney, Roman Rapids, or (of course) Popeye and Bluto's Bilge Rat Barges.

 

I have always enjoyed the interactive concept of these rides because you almost always ride with strangers. When you get splashed in the rapids section and someone laughs at you and talks smack and then gets the REAL waterfalls dumped on them at the end...that's when it's just a riot.

 

The past couple of rides we took on KD's rapids ride, it seemed like they had any waterfalls turned off despite it being like 90 degrees. One or two people got splashed hitting the small rapids and that was about it. I think I may have had a few minuscule amounts of water splashed on my shirt and I was actually ready to get wet.

 

For what it's worth, I wear my worn-in comfy sandals, microfiber shorts and shirts on a hot day to parks just so I can ride the rapids rides and don't have to worry about nasty wet sneakers, socks or denim....or having to pay for a fluffy bunny.

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It is very tame yeah, the strength of that ride is that it's in the woodsiest, shadiest, and most isolated part of the park. It's nice to ride that type of ride through the woods.

 

When I've been on it though, they had a series of water jets that 100% soaked everyone at the end.

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Bill seems to feel as strongly about the flume as I do about the rapids next door - now that's a good rapids ride.

 

Meh...I think that this one is pretty lame compared to Thunder Canyon at CP or Dorney, Roman Rapids, or (of course) Popeye and Bluto's Bilge Rat Barges.

 

I have always enjoyed the interactive concept of these rides because you almost always ride with strangers. When you get splashed in the rapids section and someone laughs at you and talks smack and then gets the REAL waterfalls dumped on them at the end...that's when it's just a riot.

 

The past couple of rides we took on KD's rapids ride, it seemed like they had any waterfalls turned off despite it being like 90 degrees. One or two people got splashed hitting the small rapids and that was about it. I think I may have had a few minuscule amounts of water splashed on my shirt and I was actually ready to get wet.

Popeye's is just in a league of its own. Absolutely amazing. Thunder Canyon is also great, but I actually don't like Roman Rapids much at all. One long line of waterfalls only soaking two people is such a lame way to end a ride!

 

When you rode Kings Dominion's, were the geysers not on? The waterfalls at the end are hit-or-miss (seems to depend on the season), but I've never ridden it in the summer without the geysers - including last weekend.

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It is very tame yeah, the strength of that ride is that it's in the woodsiest, shadiest, and most isolated part of the park. It's nice to ride that type of ride through the woods.

 

This is why I like the flume. It's beautiful back there. I hope they never touch that area around the antique cars, Grizzly and water rides. I know it's probably good expansion space for a coaster but that area really sets Kings Dominion apart and stands in stark contrast to their terrible, shade-less, concrete hell hole competitor in Maryland.

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It is very tame yeah, the strength of that ride is that it's in the woodsiest, shadiest, and most isolated part of the park. It's nice to ride that type of ride through the woods.

 

This is why I like the flume. It's beautiful back there. I hope they never touch that area around the antique cars, Grizzly and water rides. I know it's probably good expansion space for a coaster but that area really sets Kings Dominion apart and stands in stark contrast to their terrible, shade-less, concrete hell hole competitor in Maryland.

 

I agree with this, too. If anything, Kings Dominion needs more nice areas with shade trees.

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I would rather have a totally new coaster unless... they somehow connect Hurler with Grizzly and RMC both...

 

Grizzly is fine. It just needs a real entrance.

 

Here's a question I have: Would you rather have an RMC'd Hurler or a totally new coaster in its spot?

Totally new, no question. I don't even care what the ride is, Hurler's layout doesn't lend itself to a conversion at all.

 

Time after time enthusiasts declare with great authority that a layout doesn't lend itself to an RMC conversion (does Colossus ring a bell? What about Twisted Twins?) and time after time they're wrong. I'll take the RMC conversion. I see what you're saying but at this point I'm convinced that RMC can make anything amazing.

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Here's a question I have: Would you rather have an RMC'd Hurler or a totally new coaster in its spot?

Totally new, no question. I don't even care what the ride is, Hurler's layout doesn't lend itself to a conversion at all.

 

Time after time enthusiasts declare with great authority that a layout doesn't lend itself to an RMC conversion (does Colossus ring a bell? What about Twisted Twins?) and time after time they're wrong. I'll take the RMC conversion.

Twisted Twins had an actual layout. Twisted Colossus' layout is the most uninspired thing I've seen RMC put out (well, tied with Goliath) so I don't really see that as evidence that Colossus lent itself well to a conversion - the saving grace of that ride is that it duels (sometimes), which clearly Hurler doesn't and won't be doing.

 

Hurler is five airtime hills and three completely flat turns. Short of building entirely new structures, it will remain that way but with some funky banking and a barrel roll or two. And if you're going to have to make every hill and turn taller anyway, why bother? Colossus had its height going for it, at least. Hurler barely leaves what, 30 feet off the ground after the first turn?

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Twisted Colossus' layout is the most uninspired thing I've seen RMC put out (well, tied with Goliath)

 

You have to admit that even if that is what ends up happening, an "uninspired" RMC like Goliath or Twisted Colossus even if it's slightly smaller would probably be either the second or third best coaster in the park depending on who you talk to after I305 and maybe Volcano.

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Here's a question I have: Would you rather have an RMC'd Hurler or a totally new coaster in its spot?

Totally new, no question. I don't even care what the ride is, Hurler's layout doesn't lend itself to a conversion at all.

 

Time after time enthusiasts declare with great authority that a layout doesn't lend itself to an RMC conversion (does Colossus ring a bell? What about Twisted Twins?) and time after time they're wrong. I'll take the RMC conversion.

Twisted Twins had an actual layout. Twisted Colossus' layout is the most uninspired thing I've seen RMC put out (well, tied with Goliath) so I don't really see that as evidence that Colossus lent itself well to a conversion - the saving grace of that ride is that it duels (sometimes), which clearly Hurler doesn't and won't be doing.

 

Hurler is five airtime hills and three completely flat turns. Short of building entirely new structures, it will remain that way but with some funky banking and a barrel roll or two. And if you're going to have to make every hill and turn taller anyway, why bother? Colossus had its height going for it, at least. Hurler barely leaves what, 30 feet off the ground after the first turn?

 

Is something preventing RMC from building more to the structure of Hurler while doing their thing to it at the same time? Iron Rattler doesn't do any funky barrel rolling through a 900 degree helix because the helix went the way of my happiness at Lakemont Park.

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Nothing preventing that at all! My point was just that if you're going to have to build half of your new ride's structure anyway, why restrict yourself to a flat oval layout in the first place? Not that it's RMC's choice, of course, but you've gotta admit - you could get a way cooler RMC if you bulldozed Hurler and started fresh.

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Here's a question I have: Would you rather have an RMC'd Hurler or a totally new coaster in its spot?

 

Please no snarky/sarcastic responses. Just give a sincere answer.

 

new coaster. Hurler's layout is lame and boring and RMC can't fix that.

 

i mean .. in order to make Hurler awesome, you'd have to do so much that you might as well start from scratch in my opinion.

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Oh sure, that I'll give you. But if I get the choice (as posed) between an Hurler-sized Goliath or a brand new ride, I'd almost definitely choose the new ride. Especially if that ride is an RMC. Especially especially if we can get that giant moonshine stand from the CP thread.

 

Agreed but based on what they've done recently the replacement would likely be something like a GCI or B&M. Could they go outside the box and get a custom RMC or a Blitz coaster like Maverick? Of course. But I'd rather take the middle of the road RMC that would be amazing rather than an empty plot of land and a gamble as to what Cedar Fair would do with it given the direction they've been headed lately (with Fury being the exception but the park already has a giga).

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What is this "Why would you want to have a layout near the ground, that's bad" nonsense? A) Hurler didn't suck until they deferred maintenance on it over and over and over. B) Did we learn nothing from Maverick? Did we?

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