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Just curious, how would you guys compare KD to other cedar fair parks? IMO, I think if they fix up a few things, it'll be up there with their top 4 parks (Canada Wonderland, Cedar point, Kings Island, and carowinds)

Cedar Point is obviously miles ahead of the others. I haven't been to Kings Dominion, Carowinds, Canada's Wonderland, or Kings Island yet. But from what I've researched, I'd say that Kings Island would solidly be 2nd, but still far behind CP. I'd probably say that Kings Dominion would be in the same tier as Carowinds and Canada's Wonderland, but honestly Kings Dominion seems a bit more appealing to me than Carowinds or Canada's Wonderland in my opinion.

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Just curious, how would you guys compare KD to other cedar fair parks? IMO, I think if they fix up a few things, it'll be up there with their top 4 parks (Canada Wonderland, Cedar point, Kings Island, and carowinds)

I have been to Cedar Point, Kings Island, Kings Dominion, and Canada's Wonderland (I'm going to Carowinds in a few weeks though, so I'll be able to say more after that). I think that KD ranks under CP (and barely under KI) but definitely over CW. CW is a nice park and all, but the lineup just isn't all that interesting to me (even with all of those flats). Also, I know I haven't been to Carowinds yet, but just by looking at the lineup and somewhat lack of the charm in the park makes me think that KD is WAY above Cwnds. My main problem with Carowinds is that it has a great top 3 but then the lineup just brutally drops in quality. At the end of. The day I would think that you would end up just walking back and forth between the 3 good rides in the park. Looking at KD, it has a top 3, while they might not be as good quality as Cwnds' top 3, you still have a lot more great rides, like flight of fear, rebel yell, and grizzly. And that just makes it seem way better than Carowinds for me.

 

So yeah I would consider KD to be the 3rd best cedar fair park. It has a really good lineup (and also a LOT of charm, which I forgot to mention earlier). So yeah, the end, or whatever, I feel like I just wrote an essay or something...

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Just curious, how would you guys compare KD to other cedar fair parks? IMO, I think if they fix up a few things, it'll be up there with their top 4 parks (Canada Wonderland, Cedar point, Kings Island, and carowinds)

I'd put KD behind CP, Knott's, KI, ConWon, and Carowinds. KD is a good park, not great. Their lineup is not nearly as good as people say.

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Kings Dominion is a really solid park. In terms of coasters they have one top 5 ride, a major drop off to round out the big three, then another drop off for the supporting lineup. They could definitely use another noteworthy ride but the lineup is solid already and can certainly hold its own with nearby regional parks. It's no Cedar Point but it's at least comparable to BGW, better than SFA and Dorney, and maybe one step below Hershey and Great Adventure.

 

The non-coaster selection is probably above average, but the atmosphere really shines. It's just a nice way to spend a day and feels a lot more low key compared to parks like Great Adventure where you have to rush through everything to feel like you've done it all in a single day (which probably has just as much to do with Great Adventure's quality lineup).

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Of the Cedar Fair parks I've been to, this is how I would rank them.

 

  1. Kings Island
  2. Cedar Point
  3. Kings Dominion
  4. Dorney Park

 

I put Kings Island first because I was able to ride every coaster I queued up for. At Cedar Point I was turned away from Millennium Force because I was just a little bit too big for the restraints, which really disappointed me since I was really looking forward to riding it.

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Just curious, how would you guys compare KD to other cedar fair parks? IMO, I think if they fix up a few things, it'll be up there with their top 4 parks (Canada Wonderland, Cedar point, Kings Island, and carowinds)

 

It's a great park, probably in the middle. I would put Cedar Point at #1 and then lump Kings Island, Carowinds and Kings Dominion together and put them in any random order (I can't decide) and then put Wonderland after them, then Knott's, then Dorney at the rear.

 

It's very comparable to Carowinds and KI. Of the 3, Kings Dominion is the prettiest park and has the best atmosphere by a huge margin. They also have the best non coaster rides by a big margin with rides like Delerium, the Crypt, excellent, swappable Flyers, Windseeker, a good Boo Blasters, Eifel Tower and the best Flume of the 3 parks.

 

Kings Island probably has more high level coasters but KD is no slouch and i305 is better than anything at KI unless it's night time and you decide to head to the back of the park to see what all the screaming in the woods is about at KI. Dominator is one of the top floorless coasters in the world, Volcano is awesome, Flight of Fear is top class and rides better than it's counterpart and they have a ton of fun supporting coasters like Backlot Stunt Coaster, Avalanche and Grizzly.

 

KI is like a parallel universe KD that has a bunch of good rides but is honestly ugly in comparison. The tree game is strong at KD. KI should follow their lead.

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^^-- "smooth" yeah that's the word. Not that I dislike rough that much it's just the thing that they lack most coasterwise.

 

As to crowds now, 7/5, it will be cloudy and I think the real peak will be next weekend but still a big vacation week and crowds were up a bit Sunday despite the weather. Crowds slightly lower this year overall I think.

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Really the only think KD is missing is another smooth coaster. Otherwise they're the most well-rounded park behind Cedar Point.

 

 

I think a B&M Wing coaster would be the perfect fit for KD. It would keep the park perfectly rounded until one of the aging coasters need to be replaced several years down the line.

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Really the only think KD is missing is another smooth coaster. Otherwise they're the most well-rounded park behind Cedar Point.

 

 

I think a B&M Wing coaster would be the perfect fit for KD. It would keep the park perfectly rounded until one of the aging coasters need to be replaced several years down the line.

 

I agree. Would like a launched one like Thunderbird but a dive drop would be nice too.

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Other than Hurler, there was nothing "rough" or unbearable at that park. While I do agree it is a very well rounded park, it definitely does not have that many rough coasters. Anaconda is nothing compared to plenty of other rides that I've been on. It was actually smooth both separate times that we've visited.

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Just curious, how would you guys compare KD to other cedar fair parks? IMO, I think if they fix up a few things, it'll be up there with their top 4 parks (Canada Wonderland, Cedar point, Kings Island, and carowinds)

 

 

I was just saying in the Cedar Point thread that Kings Dominion is my number two park in the chain. If Hurler gets the RMC treatment, it will be well entrenched into that spot. Haven't been to CW (less than two weeks) or Knotts.

 

1. Cedar Point

2. Kings Dominion

3. Kings Island

4. Carowinds

Worlds of Fun, Dorney, Valleyfair

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I haven't been to Dorney, or California's Great America, but I'd rank the remainder of the parks as follows...

 

1. Cedar Point

 

2. Kings Island

3. Canada's Wonderland

4. Kings Dominion

 

5. Worlds of Fun

6. Knott's Berry Farm

7. Carowinds

 

8. Michigan's Adventure

9. Valleyfair

 

My last visits to many of these parks were years ago, but my rankings are based on my overall experience at the park when I visited, quality of coasters there when I visited, plus factoring in how impressive the additions since I've visited look.

 

I'm sure my high rating of Worlds of Fun surprises people, but I really enjoyed my visit there years ago, and they've added Prowler, Patriot, and Spinning Dragons since then, while only removing a crappy Arrow looper. I have to imagine I'd quite enjoy visiting it again now, with those new coasters there!

 

Fury is the best coaster I've ever been on, no doubt! But other than that, my visit to Carowinds was rather underwhelming. It's not a bad park at all, and I'd love to go again and ride Fury all day with occasional spins on Intimidator and Afterburn. But I was expecting more, I guess...

 

As for Michigan's Adventure, there's probably a little "homerism" in rating it over Valleyfair, and Renegade wasn't there when I last visited. However, Shivering Timbers is a Top 10 coaster for me, and the waterpark is really great at MiA! Wild Thing was fun, and I'm sure Renegade is a blast too, but I'm not sure I'd rather have both of those, than Shivering Timbers...

 

Since this is the KD thread... I haven't been since before I-305, and Dominator arriving. However, I really enjoyed the park my previous visit, and they've added those two coasters, one of which is in the discussion for best in the world, and the other of which I've ridden, and quite enjoyed, in its previous location! Honestly, when I finally make my way back there, hopefully next year, it will likely rise above CW and maybe even KI, especially if they have a kick-butt RMC'd Hurler there as well!

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Oh come on! Someone ranking Valleyfair below the Michigan park?! That's difinitive proof Valleyfair needs a new coaster pronto.

 

RMC Hurler. Please make it happen. I need more RMCs in my life.

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KD could very well be getting an RMC this year. Source? The Cedar Point board. And keep in mind these guys always poke fun at KD fanboys. Apparently RMC's ally dropped a hint at RMC Hurler.

It's been a confirmed in-house project since the park opened for the season. Seriously.... can this rumor die already?

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KD could very well be getting an RMC this year. Source? The Cedar Point board. And keep in mind these guys always poke fun at KD fanboys. Apparently RMC's ally dropped a hint at RMC Hurler.

It's been a confirmed in-house project since the park opened for the season. Seriously.... can this rumor die already?

 

Actually no, it hasn't confirmed to be in-house. The hints that RMC themselves dropped was clear as day pointing at Hurler. And it's not just KD fanboys saying this. Even Cedar Point fanboys acknowledged that it's happening to KD's Hurler. It only makes sense with Hurler being closed this long.

 

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=28853&start=31800

 

https://m.facebook.com/IrvineOndreyEngineering/photos/a.475305665826794.115576.474347982589229/1200454699978550/?type=3&theater

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