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but daddy I want a launched looping dual inverted hyper giga coaster that goes from the front of the park to the back and then underground to china and back!

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KD's turn to get something big? Who's the cycle through ( because obviously its not all the parks)? Were i305, Dominator, Volcano, Soak City, or Derilium not big enough / requested enough moves to satifsy you?

 

 

This thread in a nutshell.

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You must have a very loose definition for "great".

 

 

I do agree that Wild Eagle is a really enjoyable and re-ridable coaster. Gatekeeper, on the other hand, is less impressive.

 

See, they can be very enjoyable coasters. I'm sure if KD were to receive one, it would easily be in the top 3 ridden rides at the park.

 

It would be the most ridden ride at the park, unless it had shorter trains like Thunderbird.

 

Count me in with the crowd that thinks GateKeeper is at least very good. I love the throughput, the location, the keyholes, and that first drop is amazing. Not my first choice of coaster for any Cedar Fair park, because I want them to add variety, and I don't want Wing Riders to be the new invert (while good, they blended together during my mega-Cedar Fair trip)

 

Edit - I think Valleyfair and Canada's Wonderland are next on the coaster list. My reasoning? CW gets huge crowds, and Valleyfair is my home park.

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You must have a very loose definition for "great".

 

 

I do agree that Wild Eagle is a really enjoyable and re-ridable coaster. Gatekeeper, on the other hand, is less impressive.

 

See, they can be very enjoyable coasters. I'm sure if KD were to receive one, it would easily be in the top 3 ridden rides at the park.

 

It would be the most ridden ride at the park, unless it had shorter trains like Thunderbird.

 

Count me in with the crowd that thinks GateKeeper is at least very good. I love the throughput, the location, the keyholes, and that first drop is amazing. Not my first choice of coaster for any Cedar Fair park, because I want them to add variety, and I don't want Wing Riders to be the new invert (while good, they blended together during my mega-Cedar Fair trip)

 

Edit - I think Valleyfair and Canada's Wonderland are next on the coaster list. My reasoning? CW gets huge crowds, and Valleyfair is my home park.

 

Valleyfair being your homepark isn't a very good reasoning of why it's " supposedly " on the next coaster list. CW is the only debatable one though.

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Valleyfair being your homepark isn't a very good reasoning of why it's " supposedly " on the next coaster list.

That was probably a hyperbole.

 

CW is the only debatable one though.

I agree with this.

 

Here is a chart documenting every large scale scale coaster inside the Cedar Fair Chain between 1996-2016.

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Excluding the obvious Cedar Point. Carowinds, Kings Island, and Canada's Wonderland are the only parks that seem to consistently receive large $20+ million coasters. Worlds of Fun and Dorney Park seem to have gone through quick bursts of large coaster installations, and Valleyfair's has been sprinkled around every-so-often. For the time being, every other park is getting mid-to-large scale expansions/upgrades that help round out their respective parks more. This is just an overview of what's been happening in the chain, and probably an explanation as to why there aren't coasters popping up in every park.

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^Honestly, it seems that the small parks only saw their largest investments in getting the "basics" that would commonly be seen at major parks (with the exception of the absence of a Morgan hyper at MiA). Since that is completed, they havent seen any significant investment since - and won't, on this trend.

 

Edit - I think Valleyfair and Canada's Wonderland are next on the coaster list. My reasoning? CW gets huge crowds, and Valleyfair is my home park.

Valleyfair being your homepark isn't a very good reasoning of why it's " supposedly " on the next coaster list. CW is the only debatable one though.

I'm absoultely certain that was a knock on KD fans.

 

Joke => your head ==> joke goes over

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^Honestly, it seems that the small parks only saw their largest investments in getting the "basics" that would commonly be seen at major parks (with the exception of the absence of a Morgan hyper at MiA). Since that is completed, they havent seen any significant investment since - and won't, on this trend.

Well, let's take a deeper look.

 

 

Worlds of Fun

2010: Snoopy's Hot Summer Lights, a $1 million immersive light and sound experience, opens in the Europa and Africa sections of the park. Subway opens at Oceans of Fun.

2011: Planet Snoopy, an $8-million children's themed area, is added to Worlds of Fun featuring over 20 rides and attractions. An Illions carousel called The Grand Carousel is added to the Scandinavia section of the park.

2012: A premium line queue system called "Fast Lane" is introduced.

2013: Oceans of Fun receives full integration with Worlds of Fun sharing one admission for both parks.

2014: WindSeeker – a 301-foot (92 m) Mondial swing ride at Knott's Berry Farm – was renamed SteelHawk and relocated to Worlds of Fun for the 2014 season.

2015: Planet Snoopy receives upgrades, including five new rides added to the children's area, with the removal of two former attractions.

 

Source - Wikipedia

 

Dorney Park

2011, Dorney Park introduces an 8 million dollar extensive overhaul to the former Camp Snoopy kid's park area.

 

 

In 2012, Dorney Park added Stinger, formerly Invertigo from California's Great America, to its roller coaster collection. The park also added the new Fast Lane virtual queue system, similar to the other Cedar Fair parks. Also new for the 2012 season is the "Dinosaurs Alive!" section of the park, located behind the steel force entrance.

 

In 2013, Dorney Park featured no major new attractions, but rather small changes to the park, such as a new Fast Pay wristband, allowing guests to add money to an RFID prepaid wristband, allowing them to pay for food and merchandise without carrying cash.

 

2014

Snake Pit 65-foot (20 m) tall. Snake Pit will feature six water slides, Python Plummet, which is three free-fall body slides, Constrictor, which is an enclosed tube slide, and Boa Blaster, which is a twin tube slide featuring high speed drops. Snake Pit will replace Riptide Run and The Lily Pads.

 

2015

Cedar Creek Flyers will be located in the lower section of the park next to Stinger.

Source - Wikipedia

 

Valleyfair

2011: Planet Snoopy opens

2012: Fast Lane; Antique Cars closes

2013: Dinosaurs Alive!

2014: Route 76: Northern Lights opens, Scrambler and Tilt-A-Whirl relocated and Antique Cars to be re-added as Antique Autos; Pepsi IMAX theater closes

2015: Soak City: New Slide Tower, New Children's Splash Pad; Subway relocated, Airbrush Tattoo stand closed

Source - Wikipedia

 

Nothing too-major has been done, but the parks have certainly become more rounded than prior to these investments. All receiving new additions and upgraded areas/waterparks, which certainly improve the all-day experience. It's probably nothing an enthusiasts would go crazy over, but they are additions that certainly help improve a casual park goers experience. Like I wrote earlier, these parks are getting mid-to-large scale expansions/upgrades that help round themselves out more. The Kings Dominion S.S. expansion, and each Planet Snoopy expansion listed would easily equal the cost of a new coaster. Parks have to cater & invest heavily into attractions aimed towards people outside the thrill-seeking demographic, as thrill seekers only make up a portion of their income.

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^Honestly, it seems that the small parks only saw their largest investments in getting the "basics" that would commonly be seen at major parks (with the exception of the absence of a Morgan hyper at MiA). Since that is completed, they havent seen any significant investment since - and won't, on this trend.

 

Edit - I think Valleyfair and Canada's Wonderland are next on the coaster list. My reasoning? CW gets huge crowds, and Valleyfair is my home park.

Valleyfair being your homepark isn't a very good reasoning of why it's " supposedly " on the next coaster list. CW is the only debatable one though.

I'm absoultely certain that was a knock on KD fans.

 

Joke => your head ==> joke goes over

Hm, no wonder why I didn't get it.

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Lol. Theres no algorithm for when a park will get a new ride/roller coaster/any sort of investment. Trying to find patterns from the past will get you nowhere. Making large scale investments isn't predetermined, it's decided upon after market research, evaluating operating efficiency, determining the ROI, etc. This whole website has devolved into every thread overthinking the hell out of everything. Be happy that theme parks exist at all lol.

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Getting back on a less aggravating topic...

 

I've never been to a Cedar Fair Haunt before and plan on picking up CF 2016 platinum passes for a Cedar Point/Kings Island trip. With the free 2015 visit, living reasonably close to Kings Dominion, I'm planning on visiting sometime Columbus Day weekend.

 

What's the best day for this particular weekend? I enjoy Halloween events and mazes, but have only been to SF events. Are there any fees associated with the mazes? They're not a top priority (night rides on I-305 take that crown), but if the lines are reasonable I'd like to do the better mazes if possible. I'll be there open to close (or at least 9pm) in all likelihood since I've had SF passes the last few years and am finally switching over with next summer's plans unfolding.

 

Any info is appreciated!

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^ Cedar Fair's Halloween events are treated like Universal does HHN and Disney does the Not So Scary party. They're separately ticketed events that you do not have access to with a season pass. They're discounted for passholders but not included. I'm not sure of the exact details of the free 2015 visit, but I'd bet dollars to donuts it's for regular operating hours, not for the haunt.

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^Thanks for the heads up. I've been looking through the KD site and I can't find anything about restrictions for the free visit other than any "regular operating day." Can anyone shed some more light on this? Do they kick you out of the park when Haunt starts (is that 7pm?) or would you just have to buy the separate ticket to experience the mazes? If you're still allowed in the park and can continue riding coasters that's totally fine with me.

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^ Nope. Regular oeprating hours end, the park is closed for about 2 hours, then reopens for haunt. For example, Knott's Scary Farm runs from 7pm-1am or 2am. The park is open during the day from 10am-5:30pm. If you're in line at 5:29pm you'll be able to ride but it's treated like the end of any other day. You will get off the ride and head to the exit. IF you would like to re-enter for the haunt you will need to buy a separate ticket. They may give you a season pass discount if you're lucky, but it'll only be a $5 discount.

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^That kinda sucks but I totally get why they do it. Thanks for the info.

 

With that in mind it seems that the park doesn't open until 1 on Sunday, Oct. 11, so going the previous Friday or Saturday makes more sense just because it's open an additional 3 hours before Haunt. Is it a good assumption that Friday, Oct. 9th would be the best day to go on Columbus Day weekend to have the best opportunity for multiple rides on the major coasters? How are crowds during the day in October compared to the same day of the week in the Summer?

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Halloween Haunt at Kings Dominion is NOT a separate ticketed event. There are 2-3 parks in the Cedar Fair park chain that treat Haunt as a separate ticketed event, such as Knott's Berry Farm and Carowinds.

 

Kings Dominion Haunt event is included in your general admission ticket. Haunt runs on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday evenings. No Haunt the 1st Sunday (09/27 | park open 10:30 am - 8:00 pm).

 

Fridays

 

Hours: 7:00 pm - Midnight

 

Notes: All Haunt Attractions open at 7:00 pm.

Children's area/rides CLOSED. NO kids Halloween Activities.

Select "Adult" rides and food locations open.

 

Saturdays

 

Hours: 10:30 am - Midnight

 

Notes: Staggered Haunt Attraction openings. (About 1/2 Mazes open at 6:00 pm. The rest of the mazes and scare-zones open at 7:00 pm.

Children's area/rides open 10:30 am - 7:00 pm.

Special kid's Halloween activities 12 noon till 5:00 pm.

Select "Adult" rides and food locations open.

 

Sundays

 

Hours: 10:30 am - 10:00 pm (in October)

 

Notes: Staggered Haunt Attraction openings. (About 1/2 Mazes open at 6:00 pm. The rest of the mazes and scare-zones open at 7:00 pm.

Children's area/rides open 10:30 am - 7:00 pm.

Special kid's Halloween activities 12 noon till 5:00 pm.

Select "Adult" rides and food locations open.

 

Fridays are best if your focus is on doing the Haunt Attractions along with some rides. The crowds are light and short lines for everything. Ticket price for Haunt is lower on that night.

 

Saturdays are busy the first couple weekends of Haunt. It goes from busy to crazy from mid-October till the end of Haunt (last 3 Saturdays in October). Probably will need to purchase a Fright-lane FOL pass for Haunt maze attractions; else, you might not get through everything in one evening.

 

Saturday and Sunday daytime stuff for young kids during the day. Less folks visit on Sunday than Saturday. Haunt has way less crowds on Sunday as well. Admission prices on Sunday are lower as well.

 

Hope this helps.

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I'm new here, but a long time lurker.

 

I'm going to Kings Dominion tomorrow, but it's supposed to be raining on and off all day. I was wondering if anyone could enlighten me on their rain policy with their rides? It's going to be my first time there, and I don't want to miss anything because of the rain.

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I'm new here, but a long time lurker.

 

I'm going to Kings Dominion tomorrow, but it's supposed to be raining on and off all day. I was wondering if anyone could enlighten me on their rain policy with their rides? It's going to be my first time there, and I don't want to miss anything because of the rain.

As long as there isn't thunderstorms, you should be fine. Even Volcano doesn't close in heavy rain from my experience! Mark my word, however. I305 hurts like hell in the rain! Anyways, if it's just rain then you will be fine.

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If you ride something like I305 in the rain, be prepared for 2-3 minutes of little to no oxygen

 

The rain is so insane you almost don't even get a chance to breathe.

 

Speaking of coasters in inclement weather, could you imagine how cool it would be to ride a coaster in heavy fog? The lift hill would practically invisible, and you wouldn't even be able to see the elements more than 5 feet ahead of you haha

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If you ride something like I305 in the rain, be prepared for 2-3 minutes of little to no oxygen

 

The rain is so insane you almost don't even get a chance to breathe.

 

Speaking of coasters in inclement weather, could you imagine how cool it would be to ride a coaster in heavy fog? The lift hill would practically invisible, and you wouldn't even be able to see the elements more than 5 feet ahead of you haha

Heavy fog + roller coaster? Yes please!!! Also, Kings Dominion does have one weird thing that I sort of understand but I think it is kind of pointless. They close Flight of Fear during heavy rain. Not just thunderstorms, but heavy rain. It happened when I went in mid-July. Could that possibly be because of a flooding concern? Water does pond up in that area rather quickly. Anyone know for sure?

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If you ride something like I305 in the rain, be prepared for 2-3 minutes of little to no oxygen

 

The rain is so insane you almost don't even get a chance to breathe.

 

Speaking of coasters in inclement weather, could you imagine how cool it would be to ride a coaster in heavy fog? The lift hill would practically invisible, and you wouldn't even be able to see the elements more than 5 feet ahead of you haha

Heavy fog + roller coaster? Yes please!!! Also, Kings Dominion does have one weird thing that I sort of understand but I think it is kind of pointless. They close Flight of Fear during heavy rain. Not just thunderstorms, but heavy rain. It happened when I went in mid-July. Could that possibly be because of a flooding concern? Water does pond up in that area rather quickly. Anyone know for sure?

 

Flight of Fear doesn't close for rain, only for lightning. There is a individual who keeps an eye on lightning strikes within a certain radius of the park.

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