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What do you guys think kd will be getting in the next 5 years??

 

2016- Flat ride package

2017- New RMC using Grizzly/Hurler's wood

2018- Major theming/appearance improvements

2019- Dark ride

2020- Ride refurbishments/more appearance improvements

 

I also think that the 40th anniversary logo will become their permanent logo.

 

Something that may be a possibility is the return of the sky ride, but KD is a (somewhat) compact park (unlike Busch Gardens), so it doesn't need it.

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with a coaster selection more about quality than quality. I think a good amount of crappy coasters will be removed in the near future (unless given an RMC treatment).

 

That may be hard to pull off. Whenever quality takes on quality, things get rough!

 

But, if they want quality more than quantity, then power to them . They have a good collection as is.

 

I meant quality over quantity.

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What do you guys think kd will be getting in the next 5 years??

 

More family & thrilling attractions, maybe even a dark ride. I don't foresee another large $20+ million coaster anytime soon though. KD has only invested over $15 million on a coaster three times in the entire lifetime of the park. Volcano ($20m) in 1998, XLC ($15m) in 2001, and Intimidator ($25m) in 2010. There have been a few investments of $10 million throughout the history as well, the most recent one being this year. The park seems to be doing well with water, so that may be the direction for now.

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^^No worries haha. I know what you meant, just having some fun with ya.

 

The future is bright for this park just like many in the chain. We'll see lots of infrastructure changes for the better in addition to new attractions in the next few years. I'm excited to see what "older refurbished" flat rides are brought back from Europe by CF and which parks get what rides.

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More family & thrilling attractions, maybe even a dark ride. I don't foresee another large $20+ million coaster anytime soon though. KD has only invested over $15 million on a coaster three times in the entire lifetime of the park. Volcano ($20m) in 1998, XLC ($15m) in 2002, and Intimidator ($25m) in 2010.

 

That's why I said RMC. They are not that expensive, unless it's a launched one like Dollywood is getting, which KD won't.

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More family & thrilling attractions, maybe even a dark ride. I don't foresee another large $20+ million coaster anytime soon though. KD has only invested over $15 million on a coaster three times in the entire lifetime of the park. Volcano ($20m) in 1998, XLC ($15m) in 2002, and Intimidator ($25m) in 2010.

 

That's why I said RMC. They are not that expensive, unless it's a launched one like Dollywood is getting, which KD won't.

 

CF is really particular with company's they use. I just dont picture them using RMC for a while. I think they will watch how they age and go from there.

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More family & thrilling attractions, maybe even a dark ride. I don't foresee another large $20+ million coaster anytime soon though. KD has only invested over $15 million on a coaster three times in the entire lifetime of the park. Volcano ($20m) in 1998, XLC ($15m) in 2002, and Intimidator ($25m) in 2010.

 

That's why I said RMC. They are not that expensive, unless it's a launched one like Dollywood is getting, which KD won't.

 

CF is really particular with company's they use. I just dont picture them using RMC for a while. I think they will watch how they age and go from there.

 

I think 2017 is when they build their first RMC. They've been looking into them for a while.

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I rather like Grizzly personally. I find that rough old wooden coasters is half the charm of them. The reason I hate Mean Streak is because it's rough AND boring. Grizzly I find fun though!

 

If they did topper track for Hurler, but left the same layout, I'd be down. I like the layout because it's kinda different from most woodies, but it has not aged well at all, that's for sure.

 

As I've said before, my gripe with Shockwave is the capacity. If it loaded faster I wouldn't mind it. I also like Anaconda, though it is from the dying breed of coaster you need to be taught "how to ride," which is definitely falling out of favor.

 

Then again, considering there are people complaining that rides like Alpengeist and Rougarou are too rough, I'm convinced that if we got rid of any coasters less rough than Banshee, people would be out complaining how rough Banshee is...

 

Alpengeist is brutal. It needs those vest restraints BADLY. I've never head anyone say Rougarou is rough, just a slight rattle at the end like Dominator.

 

I went to Cedar Point and rode Rougarou in June and was really disappointed. I must say Dominator is a much better floorless coaster! Believe it or not, Rougarou was as bad as a headbanger as Anaconda and was a really rough ride expierence. The restraints on Rougarou were in a much higher position than they should be for a comfortable ride!

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^Well, of course Dominator is better than Rougarou! It was actually created with the intent of being one of the best Floorless Coasters in the first place!

 

I was actually very impressed with the first half of Rougarou, all things considered! After the MCBR, it did get rougher, however, with plenty of head-banging moments, like you mentioned...

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Hurler is boring still even with topper track. It's not like the Phoenix where it's restraint system allows for tons of airtime. I think Hurler eventually needs to be either torn down or given the iron horse treatment, which is still less expensive than most coasters.

 

How do you know? And apparently I haven't ridden a woodie with a decent restraint system since the 70s. I still like them.

 

I LOVED Hurler until they put the brake on it. It might indeed be less exciting with topper track, but they won't run it and maintain it as it was and everyone complains, complains, complains. It was a very good airtime coaster, for one thing ... the people complaining about airtime at KD must have a very strict definition.

 

KD has too many coasters which they kind of bend the idea of a family or beginner coaster to, but not any actual great ones. Hurler is now very family in thrills, but too rough to not be thrilling. Shockwave is going away. I went with a friend to KD once and got there and THEN he announces he doesn't want to go upside down or 200' ... good thing we didn't go to BGW, we'd be riding Grover all day (this was few years back). I don't want a family coaster myself, but can't say that area isn't improvable or wanted.

 

P.S. Cedar Fair has yet to RMC ... but KD is one their more "experimental" parks, so the first would most likely would be here or at CP.

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Hurler is boring still even with topper track. It's not like the Phoenix where it's restraint system allows for tons of airtime. I think Hurler eventually needs to be either torn down or given the iron horse treatment, which is still less expensive than most coasters.

 

How do you know? And apparently I haven't ridden a woodie with a decent restraint system since the 70s. I still like them.

 

I LOVED Hurler until they put the brake on it. It might indeed be less exciting with topper track, but they won't run it and maintain it as it was and everyone complains, complains, complains. It was a very good airtime coaster, for one thing ... the people complaining about airtime at KD must have a very strict definition.

 

KD has too many coasters which they kind of bend the idea of a family or beginner coaster to, but not any actual great ones. Hurler is now very family in thrills, but too rough to not be thrilling. Shockwave is going away. I went with a friend to KD once and got there and THEN he announces he doesn't want to go upside down or 200' ... good thing we didn't go to BGW, we'd be riding Grover all day (this was few years back). I don't want a family coaster myself, but can't say that area isn't improvable or wanted.

 

P.S. Cedar Fair has yet to RMC ... but KD is one their more "experimental" parks, so the first would most likely would be here or at CP.

 

hurler was mediocre from day one. lousy layout. terrible construction and it's aged awfully. please do not waste money putting topper track on that mess, Cedar Fair. nobody likes Hurler, and nobody will be excited to ride what the GP will see as a slightly modified version of a coaster they already hate.

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^ Hurler was fine when it came out. It was a fun, fast ride, and a novelty since it was in the Waynes World section of the park. It wasn't common at all to have a low to the ground fast ride, and it gave a real sense of speed because of it. There was some nice airtime on it too. Also, at the time it was built, the only other true thrill rides were Anaconda, Grizzly, Rebel Yell, and Shockwave. I remember waiting in some damn long lines for Hurler before FOF opened.

 

Hell, even after FOF opened, Hurler, Grizzly, and Anaconda would often have lines just as long. The public didn't receive FOF well when it had OTSRs. Those lines didn't start to taper off until Volcano opened.

 

I don't recall starting to dislike Hurler until more recent years. I was definitely still waiting in lines for it when Hyper Sonic XLC was there, as I remember watching Hyper Sonic from the Hurler line.

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^Well, of course Dominator is better than Rougarou! It was actually created with the intent of being one of the best Floorless Coasters in the first place!

 

I was actually very impressed with the first half of Rougarou, all things considered! After the MCBR, it did get rougher, however, with plenty of head-banging moments, like you mentioned...

 

I also rode Rougarou when it was still Mantis and it is a huge step up. It was a much needed upgrade!

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So, I was on the Kings Dominion website and noticed the "Mysterious" B&M track from the season pass ad is even more visible in the new coaster campout ad. This new ad shows a lot less of Hurler and Anaconda and more of the mysterious B&M track. The other mysterious green coaster is not in this ad!

If this is what Kings Dominion recieves next season, i'm wondering if they're purposely showing more and more of a new coaster off in these ads as it gets closer and closer to the 2016 announcment?? They did give hints last year through the hidden Soak City logo!

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