chad5871 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I have a feeling there will be more than what meets the eye too. Something just does not feel right by the look of that track. What do you mean by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCS Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 BTW just for giggles here is the breakdown of Hanover County Permit Fees http://www.co.hanover.va.us/bldginsp/bperfees.pdf I believe someone discovered earlier that the permit cost was roughly $36,000 (I am not 100% positive on this). Based on that the cost of the ride + installation would actually be less than 10 mil (very, very rough calculations seeing as we do not know the cost of each part i.e. electrical costs, mechanical costs, etc since each part is taxed at a slightly different rate. Of course the 36k permit figure doesn't mean that is the ONLY permit they had to get. Not sure if anyone cares to read about it plus it is just more speculation anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchboogie3 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Those 3 straight single-spine track pieces could be for a vertical drop if they used a vertical lift. Probably not likely, but I can't really think of what else those pieces would be used for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgodsey Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I dont think the lift will be vertical. Those pieces have room for the evac system or for stairs. Fahrenheit (vertical lift) doesn't have that area next to the track for those options... See here... http://www.rcdb.com/ig4049.htm?picture=12 Also the round indentation in the track is definitely for the cable lift system similar to other coasters that had lift track like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD4me Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Well, as I stated on the kdfansite, my guess is that the coaster train will never actually touch those "lift" pieces. But, they will have the job of lifting the coaster to the heavens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchboogie3 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 So vertical lift is very unlikely. I'm just hoping they don't put a bunch of straight track in the design. The reason I can't stand SROS at Darien Lake and SFA are because of the LONG sections of straight track and huge (and forceless) helices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typo86 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 My guess is that those lift track pieces will form a truss similar to the truss on X2 at SFMM. They may be saving steel for supports by doing this but we shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD4me Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Have you ever thought of taking those lift pieces and standing them on end with the cable canals facing each other? now imagine another pair of lift towers a little further down from the original pair in the same postion. Between the 2 sets of lift towers is a horizontal piece of track that is attached to all 4 towers. The coaster train rolls onto this section of track and is locked in place. Then a signal is sent and the coaster rises to the top (still in a horizontal position - parallel to the ground). Once at the top the train is released and advancing wheels push the train toward the beginning of the first drop. Thus, no need for a massive lift hill and all that space and supports needed. ******_ _ *****|_| | | |_| < == Tower Set 1 ********| | ********| | (Ground) ********| | <== Track ********| | (Looking straight down coaster train elevator shaft) ******_ | | _ *****|_| | | |_| <== Tower Set 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCS Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I seriously doubt this a 300 foot tall elevator lift like on Pilgrim's Plunge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKSIRYDOC Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 That would just be insane, and a mechanical nightmare for the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I'm really willing to bet that it'll be the standard cable lift, not vertical, and not an elevator, especially with how long Intamin mega/giga trains are, an elevator is completely out of the question, and a 300 foot tall vertical lift would look really stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccron10 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 It definitely looks like an elevator lift system. Perfect match. This seems like it will be the 5th section of the lifthill. I can't wait to see more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad5871 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 ^You mean cable lift, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 ^^You're probably right, I'm betting L05 stands for Lift: piece 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCLcoasters Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 That lift looks INSANE in my opinion. It just looks so majestic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawharp1992 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Do you think they'll dedicate this ride to Michael Jackson? EDIT: They could call it "Thriller" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisher1095 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 ^You posted that 5 minutes before he died... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawharp1992 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 ^You posted that 5 minutes before he died... according to about 10 sources it said he died. I also read that he was pronounced dead at 3:15 pst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisher1095 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Never mind then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I think some of you people are getting confused. An "Elevator Lift System" doesn't mean it's vertical. Just that it's a very similar cable system (almost identical) as the ones used on elevators. Millennium Force's lift system is officially called an "Elevator Cable System," and was the first of it's kind in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ccron10 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Millenium Force's lifthill is called an elevator lift sometimes. A cable lift and elevator lift can be called the same; it's just horizontal instead of vertical like on Pilgrim's Plunge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/park/rides/coasters/millennium_force/index.cfm mf.bmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDCOASTERFAN Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 ^Launch maybe? In regards to the pictures, the funky section that sure looks like it will have a catch car, but I don't see the rail the car goes on. In the old Intamin 4 bar track the rails were on the outside of the box but in this track the connecting bars attach right to the rails. I don't get it, or the straight single spine track. This is definitely a cable lift powered coaster & not a rocket/accelerator model as you can see the large gap in the track for the pully wheels to run through near the base of the lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisher1095 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Why is this even being debated? The gap in the track is obviously identical to the gap in the track for MF's elevator lift... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisher1095 Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Why is this even being debated? The gap in the track is obviously identical to the gap in the track for MF's elevator lift... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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