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Can I say right now how damn excited I am that a QUANTAM class ship is coming to Australia in 2017! I've been looking enviously at the other ships that RCCL have and compared to anything we have in Australia this is just amazing.

 

About one million Australians took a cruise in 2014 in what has become a $1.8 billion dollar industry for Australia, according to the recent Economic Impact of the Cruise Shipping Industry in Australia study by AEC group.

 

Given Australia is the fastest growing cruise market in the world and among the most popular cruising destinations for international guests, Ovation of the Seas will spend the southern hemisphere 2016-17 cruising season home ported in Australia, completing five separate cruises around Australia and New Zealand between January and April 2017.

 

The shipping monolith - currently under construction in Germany for Royal Caribbean, the world's largest cruise company - will become the biggest, most expensive ship to debut here - and to be based in Australian waters for a season every year.

 

"This is a game changer - and the single largest investment in Australian cruising ever made," Royal Caribbean's regional vice president for Asia Pacific, Gavin Smith, said at a press conference in Sydney on Wednesday. "And we'll bring many more ships if we get the opportunity."

 

The announcement puts the NSW Government under even more pressure to sort out its long running dispute with the lucrative cruise industry to provide more opportunities for ships to berth in Sydney.

 

It's widely acknowledged by all players that Sydney's Overseas Passenger Terminal at Circular Quay and White Bay cannot cope with the rapidly increasing demand; other solutions - including the use of Garden Island or the construction of a new port at Port Botany - need to be found.

 

"To give you some idea of the pressure Sydney is under, in 2017, between January 1 and Anzac Day, there are only three days when a cruise liner is not booked to be in port at the OPT at Circular Quay," Mr Smith told The Australian Financial Review.

 

"Royal Caribbean has 90 of those days – but we'd like to put on an extra 100 days. At this stage it's just not possible due to capacity pressure."

 

Present at the press conference, Port Authority of NSW CEO Grant Gilfillan agreed: "[Australia] is seeing a cruise liner penetration rate higher than the United States.

 

"We are very committed to trying to fnd that extra capacity." However, he said solutions would take yet more time to find.

 

Royal Caribbean has 45 ships sailing under five brands and operates the world's biggest cruise ships, often dubbed super or megaliners, including Oasis of the Seas, Explorer of the Seas, Rhapsody of the Seas and Oviation's sister ship, Quantum of the Seas.

 

Mr Smith said internal research shows Royal Caribbean passengers spend an average of $350 in port each day. "If we are carrying full capacity, thats about $2.5 million to be spent in port in Sydney alone" he said.

 

In April 2017, Ovation of the Seas will set sail to spend the northern cruising season in China - the other big driver of growth in the popularity of cruising in the Asia Pacific region.

 

With their giant water slides, rock climbing walls and basket ball courts, ships carrying 6500 people plus at sea might not be to everyone's taste.

 

But there's no denying ships like Ovation of the Seas are state of the art and break new ground in cruising. Passengers will be issued with wrist bands that double as room keys and will sport high speed wifi equal to that on land.

 

On board, they can enjoy a range of high tech activities including simulated sky diving and wave surfing.

 

There's even a "bionic bar" manned by robotic arms that make your cocktail. More old fashioned touches include a staking rink; Broadway shows - plus Jamie Oliver restaurants at sea

 

http://www.royalcaribbean.com.au/findacruise/ships/class/ship/home.do?shipCode=OV&wuc=AUS

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On May 17th, the Norwegian national day, Viking Cruises newest ship "Viking Star" was christened in my hometown Bergen in a spectacular ceremony. The ship itself is not very big, with a length of 227,2 meters and a capacity of 930 passengers. But it's big news here as it's the first time in 10 years that a new cruiseship is registered under Norwegian flag.

 

Here is the official video from Viking Cruises.

 

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Never noticed there was a cruise ship thread here. Awaiting our 7 day cruise on October 11th on the Carnival Magic. Always have a good time on a cruise! (well, except for the one cruise we took on RC, but that's another story.)

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Harmony of the Seas this morning :

 

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The hull is almost over, it's missing the masts, the solarium and an half of viking crown.

The boat will leave the dry dock on june 19th to move in an other place of the harbor where they can put the funnels and finish the inside.

 

Also, RCCL confirm that two new 300 meters ships will be build at STX France for Celebrity Cruises.

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Alright, figured I'd ask this thread. The fiancée and I are looking to go on a Mediterranean Cruise for our Honeymoon (May 2016). We're looking at a NCL cruise on the Norwegian Epic. Has anyone been on that cruise?

 

Furthermore, we would have the option to leave out of Barcelona or Rome, is either better than the other? This includes flying in/out, small sightseeing before/after and the like. I'm leaning towards Rome, because I think we would both like it better, but we're both easily persuaded!

 

I know it's a lot, but I'll appreciate any advice!

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^Cool! Thanks for sharing.

 

with pleasure

I have no access to the shipyard so my pics are remote.

You have good recent pics here :

 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Le-portique-des-Chantiers-Navals-dans-le-paysage-local-de-Saint-Nazaire/162427157281548?sk=photos_stream&ref=page_internal

 

Harmony just looks so massive!! Can't wait to cruise on it!!

 

I visit the shipyard two weeks ago (photo forbidden) and being at the bottom of the dry dock just near the boat is very, very impressive !

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Alright, figured I'd ask this thread. The fiancée and I are looking to go on a Mediterranean Cruise for our Honeymoon (May 2016). We're looking at a NCL cruise on the Norwegian Epic. Has anyone been on that cruise?

 

Furthermore, we would have the option to leave out of Barcelona or Rome, is either better than the other? This includes flying in/out, small sightseeing before/after and the like. I'm leaning towards Rome, because I think we would both like it better, but we're both easily persuaded!

 

I know it's a lot, but I'll appreciate any advice!

 

I've sailed out of Rome previously, and while I haven't sailed out of Barcelona, I'm pretty aware as to what the distances are like from boat to the center of the city and the comparative ease involved getting from point A to B. Rome is an amazing, amazing place worth multiple days (assuming you want something other than generic rides from your cities), but also happens to be about an hour's drive away from the center of Rome to the city itself. Barcelona, for a number of reasons, I think is more manageable as a port to visit when sailing. Just go on Google Maps, look at where the ships are, and then look at any of the major sights. It is much more convenient. If it was me and I'd never been before, I would sail out of Civitavecchia simply because I think the inconvenience of the distance is a negative for shore excursions and the like, and I think Rome is really worth the time and effort.

 

I can also shoot you the name of the car service we used to pick us up from the hotel and take us to the cruise port. It was a bargain compared to official transfers. You could take the train and transfer to a bus if you really wanted to save a lot, but the point A to B car service is, for this, I feel worth it.

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I'd echo what ^ said. Barcelona is easier logistically for many reasons but I could spend a few days in Rome and surrounding areas, I really couldn't in Barcelona unless I was also going to Port Aventura.

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Thanks! You've just reinforced our decision as to why we would want to cruise out of Civitavecchia. That's actually our plan, a couple days in Rome and surrounding area before the cruise, then get to Paris (by Train or Plane) and stay there for a few days after (with a day at DLP) before flying back to the states!

 

We will be working with a Travel Agency, but if I have any questions I'd be sure to ask you guys!

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Looks like Carnival is planning to build the most crowded cruise ships in the world. They signed a deal with Meyer Werft to build four ships, two for AIDA and two for another Carnival brand, that will be 180,000 gross tons and hold 6,600 people. By comparison, Oasis and Allure of the Seas are 225,000 gross tons and hold 6,300 people. Two of the ships will be built at Meyer Werft in Papenburg (where Quantum and Anthem of the Seas were built) and the other two will be built at Meyer Turku (which used to be STX Turku, where the Voyager-class, Freedom-class, and first two Oasis-class ships were built).

 

http://www.meyerwerft.de/en/meyerwerft_de/medien/presseticker/pressemitteilung_detail_20303.jsp

 

The cool thing about these ships is that they will be entirely powered by LNG instead of the bunker fuel that most ships use, which means that they won't be spewing plumes of black soot like other ships.

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I'd love to see an assessment of public space per passenger, but my guess is that they're comparable to what's already out there for their fleet. I doubt it'll matter for something like AIDA where the cruises are super port intensive and (I understand) people only eat at buffets.

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Is it not possible that they are also using new and lighter materials throughout the ship to reduce the gross weight? That 180,000 gross tons may equal a ship as large as the heavier ships in other fleets. It's kind of a quick assumption to claim they are planning on building "the most crowded cruise ships in the world" without knowing the guest space the ship will have.

 

Instead of making up an unfounded negatives, let's look at the positives here. These will be the first ships to be completely fueled by a the world's cleanest burning fossil fuel. The ships will be innovative in design and will make "much more efficient use of the ship's spaces, creating an enhanced onboard experience for guests." These ships will help the cruise industry advance in a positive way. Or we can just fall back on our bias and bash the new ships before they are even fully announced, I guess that works too.

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