OISU8P Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Still no mention on where the parents where. However, as Bob pointed out they will most likely have a lawsuit and emerge then. On a more comical note, I found this quote from Karnival. "To the best of our knowledge it is the first time a child has drowned aboard one of our ships," Carnival spokeswoman Joyce Oliva said in an email to The Associated Press. Really, to the best of your knowledge? You would think a company this big would be able to say with confidence that "We never had a child drown on one of our cruises" with some certainty. Way to keep it Klassy Karnival. Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57607381/carnival-cruise-lines-says-6-year-old-boy-drowned-in-pool-at-sea/ Edit: Maybe they should put Funship Freddie in charge of PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 ^That's standard PR speak. The cruise ship industry is very loosely regulated (because the ships are homeported in countries all around the world and only subject to the "flagged" countries laws), so it is very likely Carnival doesn't keep records like that because they are not required to. As far as the lifeguard thing goes? There are usually signs all around the pool deck on cruise ships making it very clear there are no lifeguards on duty. Just like in your apartment complex pool, when a beach lifeguard station is closed, etc., etc. Risk is assumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OISU8P Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Thanks and good point. This brings up a question I have. I noticed there are no cruise ships flagged to the US. Is there a particular law (such as labor) that the companies are trying to avoid in the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 ^Labor laws mainly, since cruise ship workers aren't paid very well and have to work such long hours. NCL has Pride of America flagged in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jray21 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yeah, labor laws are definitely a major reason why. I'll bet they get some nice tax breaks by not being based out of the US as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meteornotes Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 After almost four years, I spent a week on a Royal Caribbean ship last week, the Allure Of The Seas. The ship was amazing, easily the best I've ever been on, but what it also showed me was just how horrible Carnival is (since the last cruise I had been on was the "Klassy" one). Seriously, anyone that thinks Carnival offers up any sort of quality product is completely delusional. Service, cleanliness, activities, food quality, and everything else was so far beyond the Carnival "product" and showed just how inferior that crap brand is. I continue to be astonished why anyone would spend a cent on such a terrible product. But then, Chili's is still in business, so... dt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Stratosphere Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I still love the fact that the Carnival Cruise ships have a temporary emergency generator installed (strapped) to the back of their ships... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmeister Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 ^ And that's the best looking part of the ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPDave Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 ^^John - Is that a fleet wide thing? I just assumed it was only the couple that we saes last week. Thats hilarious. About there on some of the RCCL ships there's a flow rider, I wonder what the guests prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenaapple1974 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I had the pleasure (believe it or not) of being on Carnival Breeze three weeks ago. I have to say, I was thoroughly shocked. You all scared me so much with the Klassy voyage, that I was beyond terrified. (Family planned the trip, and didn't get any input from others) I really did go into it expecting Komplete Krap though. So it surpassed my standard for the line. LOL But with all seriousness - my cabin crew was awesome, my waiter awesome, and the bar chick over in the casino - awesome. (She hooked up the Mai tai for me, and with one sip my face was numb) I am sure b/c the ship is brand new, they are really keeping up with it. They were installing new carpets on the stairs through a few of the days. Dinner was served very timely, and it was tasty. Embarkation, and debarkation were a breeze. Buffets were always full. (Just please, get rid of the scrambled eggs!!) Photo crew really need to learn how to focus, and some of the staff my husband found rude right from the get go. For what I paid, it was a good time with great family. You won't catch me on an older ship though... (Love the multiple photo uploader!!!!!!) Room was clean Bye-bye Miami Atrium... I wanted to be creative with the photos of this, but I gave up. LOL Sunrise in Jamaica My voyage was one of the lucky A-Ok ones! And in Nassau, I got to witness Dream turning around to dock. (First time I experienced it, I was on the Dream!) You think they would let us on the boat for the day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhappy Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Some Costa Concordia news: http://www.theparbucklingproject.com/article/48/Costa_Crociere_secures_the_availability_of_the_Dockwise_Vanguard_as_an_option_for_the_Concordia_wreck_transportation_ Costa Crociere and Dockwise, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Royal Boskalis Westminster N.V. (Boskalis) have signed the contract that secures the availability of the Dockwise Vanguard - the world’s largest semi-submersible ship – as part of the options considered for the removal of the Concordia wreck from Isola del Giglio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 ^^Glad you had a good time. Was this the Carnival ship that had all the trouble this summer when they started sailing it while it still wasn't done!?!? (Ropes Course, Pool Area, and tons of cabins weren't ready on time!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkFunk Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 That was Carnival Sunshine, which was actually a retrofitted boat they renamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 ^My bad, this was just the ship that had a small fire and was blown away from port in its early sailings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Stratosphere Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 ^^John - Is that a fleet wide thing? I just assumed it was only the couple that we saes last week. It looks like every ship has them until permanent generators are installed. "Carnival said the first phase of improvements involves installing an additional emergency generator on every ship to ensure operation of safety equipment and services like plumbing, fresh water and elevators in a power loss. The extra temporary generators will eventually be replaced by permanent generators." bigstory.ap.org/article/carnival-plans-300-million-ship-improvements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Found an article that sparks the debate on whether or not cruise ships are getting too big. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COASTER FREAK 11 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I really enjoy the size of the Oasis and Allure. A ship that size has the space to really offer some amazing things to its guests. But I don't think they will get too much larger then that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 That article didn't seem to have quite enough facts and actual information in it to be taken seriously. They basically just say that the bigger ones are more unsafe because there are more people on them. Nothing super scary or anything like 'the bigger they are the more likely they are to topple over' or something cool like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 That article is basically saying that human error across a few ships=entire industries problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 So, the plan is to evacuate >2,000 crew members via this system: Yeah, not really a preferred evacuation route if the seas were rough. How common is this system for cruise ships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 ^Very uncommon on cruise ships, but I believe it's used quite a bit on other vessels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jray21 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 That looks like a lot of fun! I'd pay to do that on my next cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Stratosphere Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 That looks like a lot of fun! I'd pay to do that on my next cruise! Just sail on Carnival, your odds would be better.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jray21 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Lol! Very true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmicha Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Carnival has a new ship design featuring two back ends. You'll never know what direction it's traveling *It's just a weird stitching thing obviously, but I thought it was funny* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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