DirkFunk Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Blue Man Group has a few permanent troupes other than the Orlando one including one on the NCL Epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 RCCL moving a ship back to California isn't a ridiculous notion FWIW. They haven't posted out Europe in 2014 and they've been posting losses on those itineraries for a little while. They've made some statements about looking to concentrate more on the North American market, so who knows. Also, maybe Carnival needs a quick buck because they also sold half the Seabourn fleet to Windstar. I hope so! They'd definitely have me as a customer (probably more than once), even if the ports are the usual boring west coast ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Is there no longer a Princess ship that goes out of Los Angeles? They are at least half-way decent and don't seem to be anywhere near as disgusting as their parent company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 ^Good call. The Sapphire Princess is still out in LA. I'll have to work on convincing my coworkers to do that one instead of a Klassy Kruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmeister Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 It's getting more and more difficult to find non-Carnival cruises out of Southern Californnia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalyte Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 ^ Exactly! My family and I did the RCCL Mexican cruise out of Los Angeles in 2008 on Monarch and we had a great time! The only lines that seem to go out of Los Angeles and San Diego are Carnival and Holland America with the occasional Princess! Royal Caribbean needs to send us a really nice ship over here! Also, just as a reference, in no way on our cruise on the Monarch did we ever feel that the ship was older than most, and we had a great time, unlike the Klassy Kruise it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Why Blue Man Group? I thought the only travelling one was at Universal Studios. I really feel you should stop posting in this thread. Your post about the NCL Epic had no point, you're questioning people who know what they're talking about (re: BMG), seriously just stick to another thread please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalCoasters Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 While I know that most cruise ships are strapped for space as they are, do you think we'll ever see a miniaturized amusement area on a cruise ship that contains a more than one or two flat rides? It would be pretty cool to see an area on a cruise ship with a ghost train and maybe a small set of other attractions. One of the issues I can think of aside from forces on the ship's structure is the capacity that would probably be needed for such large crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 ^ I doubt capacity would ever be that big of an issue. Regardless of what attraction a ship holds, there's no way 4,000+ people would constantly have it bogged down. There's plenty to do on any ship. Crowds always disperse, and you'll always be able to find certain "down times" to enjoy an attraction (ex: when the ship's in port). Personally, I'd rather not see ships turn into floating carnivals. I think Allure is tastefully done, but I'd rather see more waterpark features in the future, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gforce1994 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I just realized that Carnival workers are either selfish or unwise. Why did the forward end of the Triumph have power? The forward end consists of all the crew's cabins. And how do they not know that they can use that power to run necessary power for return to port? I know this industry very well and my family's been out to sea numerous times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRHcoasterki Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 ^................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COASTER FREAK 11 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 LOL, definitely, only one of those 2 reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I know this industry very well and my family's been out to sea numerous times. I guess you must've just navigated right past this on the previous page, huh? Why Blue Man Group? I thought the only travelling one was at Universal Studios. I really feel you should stop posting in this thread. Your post about the NCL Epic had no point, you're questioning people who know what they're talking about (re: BMG), seriously just stick to another thread please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 While I know that most cruise ships are strapped for space as they are, do you think we'll ever see a miniaturized amusement area on a cruise ship that contains a more than one or two flat rides? It would be pretty cool to see an area on a cruise ship with a ghost train and maybe a small set of other attractions. One of the issues I can think of aside from forces on the ship's structure is the capacity that would probably be needed for such large crowds. I'm guessing weight and stabilization are the bigger issues. I'm sure it can be engineered, but is it really worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy T. Koepp Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Disney actually wanted to do this a while back. http://www.markhickson.com/newmark/?tag=floating-theme-park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 The only kind of ride I've ever thought would be really feasible for a cruise ship from the standpoint of space, size, capacity, etc. would be something like a condensed version of Toy Story Mania, which I actually think might work really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COASTER FREAK 11 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Disney actually wanted to do this a while back. http://www.markhickson.com/newmark/?tag=floating-theme-park That's rather interesting. Not a ship full of rooms, but rides instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Disney actually wanted to do this a while back. http://www.markhickson.com/newmark/?tag=floating-theme-park Or at least Mark Hickson wanted to do this! I sorta know this guy through other people, and he's always been kind of a "visionary", not that that's a bad thing, but I think he worked on a lot of things that were "ideas" or "feasibility studies" and not things that ever had a chance to become a reality. There was a time where Disney employed a lot of people just to "think up stuff", and most of it was never even in the realm of possibility. The reality of putting a "theme park attraction" on a cruise ship, I'm just not sure how much it would really get used. You have the Aquaduck on the Disney ships and the Carousel on the Oasis class ships. Both are very popular, but I'm not sure they are popular "enough" to warrant a full size dark ride or even a small roller coaster. And even the Carousel on Allure seemed more of a "novelty" or a decoration on the boardwalk, than it did an actual "ride." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I agree, I think you'll continue to see more things like the bucket water play structures, ropes courses, rock walls, flow riders, but I'm not convinced we'll see a real ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgetman82 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I'd also be kinda concerned about the weight of those attractions. A fiberglass tunnel sure is a lot lighter than a tubular steel track, and less complicated too (I think). Plus, having to install trains versus people just using lightweight inner tubes or even their own bodies. Granted, I can't stop giggling at the thought of the first Eurofighter or El Loco at sea. Edit: Then again, if there would be any coaster I would recommend they use, it'd be a sort of alpine coaster that runs along the edge like Aqua Duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkFunk Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The bigger issue IMO with rides on cruise ships isn't ship stability, but more tied to the simple fact that they don't generally provide revenue. Mass market lines live and die on revenue centers; shopping, casinos, spas, bars, upcharge restaurants, and so on. If they could build a dry ride that was sized proportionate to the amount of money they'd theoretically make off it and initial cost, I'm sure they'd be getting built, and that's probably why the only ones out there are carousels on the Oasis class vessels. Stuff like zip lines and rope courses make a lot more sense; smaller, cheap to operate and construct, can be somewhat modular in nature and are then easy to swap in and out for future expansions or changes during dry dock periods. Of course, you could charge for the first coaster at sea or whatever, but put a price tag on it and it would probably sit vacant, whereas you could charge people for all-you-can eat sushi and expect asses in seats every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Well. . that didn't take too long (tho the solo lawsuit filed the day the ship actually docked kinda takes the cake). http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/20/us/florida-carnival-triumph-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 the only folks who will benefit from this, are gonna be the lawyers. shame these folks got inconvenienced, but it's not like they were in any mortal danger -- no judge/jury in their right minds is going to rule in favor of these passengers (who are coming across already as greedy moochers). Carnival refunded your cost, gave you ANOTHER cruise free, *and* offered you $500. . that's likely the best offer they are gonna get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) ^I wouldn't be so quick to judge the merits of their suit based on what we know. I imagine that this class action, like many others before it, will settle before it reaches trial. Edited February 21, 2013 by cfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonlva Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 ^I wouldn't be so quick to judge the merits of their suit based on what we know. I imagine that this class action, like many others before it, will settle before it reaches trial. I remember reading somewhere that they cant be sued (or that it would be hard to win), because why you buy a ticket (be it on a cruise, or a sports game) it usually says you are in an agreement on a binding contract. Carnival cruise ship tickets require that all lawsuits be filed in Miami. Maritime attorneys say it's difficult but not impossible to win a case unless the plaintiff can show actual injury or illness. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/16/1st-passenger-lawsuit-filed-over-carnival-cruise-mishap/#ixzz2LUvMeglp But Terry and other passengers considering litigation will be navigating rough waters. In the absence of physical injury or death, it's extremely difficult to successfully sue a cruise line, said Robert Jarvis, a law professor at Nova Southeastern University in Fort Lauderdale. Passengers sign away many of their rights by accepting the terms of the ticket (it's in the small print hardly anyone reads), and if they reject those terms, they won't be sailing anywhere. http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2013/02/15/carnival-triumph-passenger-lawsuit/1924005/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simipour'sTrainer Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I thought I would share this for those who haven't seen it. SNL did a skit parodying the Carnival Triumph disaster. I thought it was pretty funny. [youtu_be]http://youtu.be/rV7t7joUXNc[/youtu_be] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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