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p. 348 - Iron Gwazi POV!

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Holy crap you nerds are a tough crowd.  It looks like a coaster that will make me hoot and holler the entire time I'm on it while simultaneously trying to throw my fat ass as far from the train as pos

It means that you can look forward to a fun-filled day riding Kumba, Montu, Cheetah Hunt and Sheikra and while you're in line for one of those you might be able to watch an Iron Gwazi POV on your phon

I actually agree with many of you talking about how the RMC's are all very similar.  And that's fine. There's nothing wrong with building a ton of very similar kick ass rides when most people who ride

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For Robb, Elissa, or really anyone else who has a lot of global coaster experience:

 

How does Cheetah Hunt stack up as far as anticipation?

 

I'll take a stab at this one.

 

For me (noting that others with high counts may feel different) it brings up a word from many years ago on a usenet newsgroup (rec-rollercoaster) that surfaced: anticipointment.

 

As we have followed construction of many coasters throughout the years, many have looked: really good, "top ten material", "potential #1", etc... Then you get there, ride it, and sometimes go - WTF? This is even after many who did ride it proclaimed it: "my new #1", best coaster ever, greatest thing since sliced bread...

 

A lot of it has to do with individual preferences. Me? I prefer a great wooden coaster. But, even in a steel coaster I still look for basically the same thing. Changes in direction, laterals, positive G's, airtime, speed and pretty much in that order. I know that both Robb and Elissa have strong preferences that lean towards having airtime at the top.

 

When we were there on media day for Goliath (SFMM), it looked awesome. World's tallest, fastest coaster (only to be beaten by MF a couple of months later). After Robb's first ride, I distinctly remember him saying "Meh. It feels like a big Schwartzkoph Jet Star." Hard to disagree.

 

As a hardcore enthusiast, who has been on a few coasters, I usually take the "I'll wait until I ride it to make ANY opinion." It may look great, but i'll wait. After riding a couple of times, I'll form an opinion. I'll even have an idea of those here that I know who will like it more, or less than I do, OR one that we'll ALL LOVE.

 

Some examples:

 

"Coaster" at Playland (PNE) - So small, but packs a wallop in every way. A true top tier ride.

 

"Millennium Force" - A glorified (albeit fast) mine train with a descent first drop.

 

"Kawasemi" - Yeah, it looks cool, but it's so damn small!! Can't be all that good! WRONG!! Now we have a thread here on TPR about which parks should get a "Mega-lite"? (A: ALL of them - it kicks all kinds of A$$!)

 

"SOB" - Looked awesome, until you rode it. Anticipointment at it's highest!

 

"Hollywood: RRR" Go back and look at the thread of when they were building it. Has the potential to be the "Greatest coaster ever!" Not. The "non-inverting loop" was cool, but the rest of the ride really sucks.

 

The most classic example I can think of:

 

"Eagle's Fortress" - It's just an Arrow suspended coaster. We *ALL* went in with VERY, VERY LOW expectations. After our first ride, the general consensus (in the best way possible) was "What the hell was that?" Elissa was waiting in the station (holding KT) and absolutely thought that we were kidding when we told her it was AWESOME!! Then she rode it. AWESOME!

 

Getting back to Cheetah Hunt - I'll admit that it looks really cool. I think that the "left-right-left" through the trench may be the most boring part of the ride for me, but, I hope I'm wrong. (Very similar looking to Thunder Dolphin - and that was like "What the hell is that in there for?" BORING!) That would be followed closely by the figure 8 tree top thingy. Again, I hope I'm wrong. I really like the idea of multiple launches. One of my favorite elements anywhere is the second launch on "Speed: The Ride" in Vegas. Don't know exactly why, but I really love it!

 

I will ride it, no doubt. Probably later this year. So, for me, it's safe to say that I like what I see, but I do reserve the right to reserve judgement, so as to avoid any "anticipointment".

 

Besides, it's another credit!

 

JJ

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For Robb, Elissa, or really anyone else who has a lot of global coaster experience:

 

How does Cheetah Hunt stack up as far as anticipation? I haven't been a member of the site for very long, but have been a coaster enthusiast for most of my 32 years, and this coaster looks awesome to me.

 

Does this-anticipation wise-equal a daunting project like I-305, or Millennium Force, or is it more akin to a really cool, yet smaller ride like Maverick or Fahrenheit?

 

Is there another coaster, anywhere, that seems similar to this one? I'm sure other Intamin's share traits with this ride, but at least to my eyes, this thing seems quite special.

 

No reason for asking, aside from curiosity.

 

Thanks!

 

I'm honestly pretty excited for it. When I saw I305 being built I was not very excited and thought it looked kind of dull. It had too much 'twisty' and not enough airtime. Then I rode it and found that through an amazing Intamin Miracle the twisty parts even gave airtime! I hadn't paid attention to iSpeed at all and was also really blown away by it. To me this kind of looks like a combo of I305 and iSpeed...and since it's no secret I don't like the name Cheetah Hunt I shall rename it i305Speed!

 

In another angle, I'm also REALLY REALLY excited for Florida to be getting some non-B&M's!!!!! A lot of you don't like Rockit, but I do, now this, very happy!

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Awesome. The ride still looks rough, but better nonetheless! Looks great.

 

I also found a picture that has the coaster testing with one person in it: http://behindthethrills.com/wp-content/gallery/gwazi-1-19-11/gwazi-testing-17.jpg

 

Source: http://behindthethrills.com/2011/01/gwazi-testing-with-flyers-cheetah-hunt-update-1-19-11/

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Glad to hear/see a human or two have ridden Gwazi... I was hoping for a "soft re-opening" (and am still keeping my eye on the blogs with fingers crossed) as I have the next couple of days off from work, and would run there in a heartbeat if it opened early...

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I'm excited for this, though I would be for just about anything Busch Tampa builds because it's bound to be a quality attraction. It's also about 30 minutes from my winter place at what I consider my home park.

That said, I don't understand what there is in the pictures that warrants an "omfg buying tickets/rescheduling my vacation drool" reaction. The figure 8 looks nice with the steep ascent (and hopefully just as steep descent) but what else is there yet? A roll and some launch track? Before this thing is finished I'll be reading pledges to walk across the country barefoot on rocks just to be near it.

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Thanks for posting that Gwazi testing video! Those MF trains are just poetry in motion.

 

And the kangaroo & wallaby photos are also full of cuddly win.

 

Walkabout Way is definitely a great, albeit, small addition to the park. The food wasn't too expensive to get for them and that some of the smaller ones can crawl out of the pens and roam around free is awesome as well.

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Glad to hear/see a human or two have ridden Gwazi... I was hoping for a "soft re-opening" (and am still keeping my eye on the blogs with fingers crossed) as I have the next couple of days off from work, and would run there in a heartbeat if it opened early...

 

Hey bro, RollermanDan said they are soft opening the ride today. I really wish I could make it down there but the 2 hour drive is a gamble for soft opening.

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Glad to hear/see a human or two have ridden Gwazi... I was hoping for a "soft re-opening" (and am still keeping my eye on the blogs with fingers crossed) as I have the next couple of days off from work, and would run there in a heartbeat if it opened early...

 

Hey bro, RollermanDan said they are soft opening the ride today. I really wish I could make it down there but the 2 hour drive is a gamble for soft opening.

 

 

MAN... thanks for the information... I wish I would have known an hour ago... I've already consumed several beers... and its an hour away for me (not far, sober... but buzzed... eh...)... Perhaps tomorrow if the coaster is still open to the public... this is nothing but great news... I can't wait...

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^Beautiful day today. I'm just sayin. Hit the coffee and get out there man. People are riding. Tiger side was ridden without headache, regret or spinemelting by a Thrillnetwork member. I will be there Saturday but today is just epic weather wise.

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Walkabout Way is definitely a great, albeit, small addition to the park. The food wasn't too expensive to get for them and that some of the smaller ones can crawl out of the pens and roam around free is awesome as well.

 

Totally sweet. How many parks combine world-class roller coasters with live animal encounters as well as BGT? Man, I miss that place a lot.

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Just got back from Media Day for Gwazi's new trains. In a word: awesome! The coaster is much improved both in smoothness and re-rideability. (Is that a word?)

 

Adam and I got to ride front and back seat on Tiger (Blue) and back seat on Lion (yellow). We agreed that Tiger was a bit smoother than Lion, but they were both great. No more jack hammering around turns or lower back compression on the drops. And the trains themselves are truly beautiful with the dark wood running boards and the open sides. All in all a major win for BGT!

 

We also managed to take a lot of pics of Cheetah Hunt (or as I like to call it TCFKAC....The Coaster Formerly Known as Cheetaka) and got some interesting shots. Also, we counted about 4 open construction gates which enabled us to get pics of.....big piles of dirt! And track too!

 

Enjoy the pics and video. Not much coaster footage as they don't allow on ride cameras and Gwazi is pretty much hidden from the main paths at BGT.

 

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Bob Dean from GCI and Mark Rose from BGT

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Both trains in the station using the 360 View app on my iPhone

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The whole layout again using the iPhone app

 

Keep scrolling.... MORE PHOTOS!

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As John mentioned above, we were given the opportunity to give Gwazi's new Millennium Flyers a try before the general public was able to do so (officially). The ride did soft open for a period of time following the event, but it only ran one side at a time while the final decals were applied on the trains.

 

The trains reminded me when I enjoyed Gwazi so much at a younger age (it was my first wooden rollercoaster)... While the trains certainly make the ride more smooth, it hasn't taken the edge off of the coaster. It still feels like a wooden rollercoaster, but with these trains, it feels more like the GCIs we've come to enjoy. The trains navigate the track more naturally, and shimmy much less than the PTCs did when attempting to find the right angle for each shift in the twisting track.

 

Overall, the fact that Busch Gardens Tampa has revitalized a twelve year old coaster, re-tracking much of it in the process, is a true testament to the park's commitment to their quality attractions. It is easy to admit that Gwazi may have become more rough over the years, but with the Millennium Flyers onboard, the ride almost entirely as if it had opened only yesterday, which means they must be doing something right!

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This banner, as well as several other advertisements keep guests aware of Gwazi's transformation into its own "new breed of speed."

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It's still the Gwazi we've come to know and love.

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To start the media event, Vice President of Design & Engineering, Mark Rose gave us background on this project and its twelve year genesis for Busch Gardens Tampa. Watch John's video to get a better idea of what he had to say!

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The stories were extremely interesting to hear, especially when it came to the decision to bring Millennium Flyers to Gwazi's tracks.

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It was a fascinating start to our session!

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Nothing besides the trains and some of the track has been changed, so everything feels more than familiar.

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Not for us!

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Here you are, beautiful!

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And you! You sir, are spectacular!

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Mark Rose posed for a photo with Bob Dean, a representative for Great Coasters International, Inc.

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Get ready for lots of glamour shots...

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It's real! It's really real!

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So long, yet so open! No more PTC boxes!

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You get some love too sir.

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My, how many days we've dreamed of this happening!

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Brake shot for you geeks out there!

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A look at the new stylized front on Gwazi Tiger!

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Never gunna get tired of seeing this!

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Side view front.

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Side view back.

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Media ERT is always a plus!

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I don't think I'll ever be this lucky again with Gwazi...

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The non-decaled train was doing some test runs as we left the event.

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The decals definitely help!

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Train #4 sitting in the brakes.

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Eat it up.

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Take it in.

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We didn't forget about you, #2!

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The backside of Gwazi.

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Time for a few panoramas...

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The water dummies wait for their next job.

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Notice the new wood?

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Old next to new.

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New next to old.

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Closer examination.

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Opening this Saturday!

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Gwazi is Adam approved!

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Wow, those trains are beautiful! I love the artwork on the front, and I agree, the dark wooden running boards just make it look polished and complete.

 

I've never ridden Gwazi, although from the sounds of it, I may have done my spine a favor. Glad to hear the ride experience is improved and looking forward to more reports!

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