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What happened to the Cheetaka name !!!!??? =(

... Other wise amazing coaster, can't wait to see what the BGE version will look like !

 

Code name - a lot of projects have code names

To echo what Larry is saying, I know for a fact (meaning I was told in person) that the whole Whyte Lightning thing for Carowinds and/or Cedar Point last year was purposely made by operations staff just to throw people off the trail. Parks can (and will) register for false trademarks and domain names because they know people will discover and spread them. Apparently the domain name for Cheetah Hunt wasn't applied for until just a few days ago, but that doesn't mean it isn't what they planned to do all along. They're a lot smarter than some of you guys are giving them credit for.

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wow! Just saw the vids and I really can't wait for this. Living on the West Coast makes it a lot harder to make it out there though. I wonder if there's a flight to Abu Dhabi that goes through florida.....

Going back the BGW thing, the trenches on CH remind me a lot of bbw. A toned down version might fit perfectly there (maybe without the roll it would have a lower height requirement?).

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What happened to the Cheetaka name !!!!??? =(

... Other wise amazing coaster, can't wait to see what the BGE version will look like !

 

Code name - a lot of projects have code names

To echo what Larry is saying, I know for a fact (meaning I was told in person) that the whole Whyte Lightning thing for Carowinds and/or Cedar Point last year was purposely made by operations staff just to throw people off the trail. Parks can (and will) register for false trademarks and domain names because they know people will discover and spread them. Apparently the domain name for Cheetah Hunt wasn't applied for until just a few days ago, but that doesn't mean it isn't what they planned to do all along. They're a lot smarter than some of you guys are giving them credit for.

Exactly. I can tell you that in a corporate world when you are announcing something that will be a major part of your brand, there are probably several names that go through the process of getting approved, trade marked, etc.

 

I can't tell you how many games I've worked on that had "code names" or "working titles" sometimes even up to the last few weeks of relase.

 

I heard some people say they think they came up with this name overnight for whatever reason, and I can tell you that's just simply not possible. Do you have any idea the amount of paperwork, legalities, and more that goes into branding something like this?

 

It cannot be done overnight.

 

I'll be honest, I'm not thrilled with the name either, but it's not as bland as "Drop Tower" at least and the ride really does look to be totally amazing!

 

--Robb

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Name leaves a bit to be desired, but I really think that this new habitat around the coaster will be one of their best. There is a ton of land they can work with around it, so I'm excited for that as well as the coaster.

 

wow! Just saw the vids and I really can't wait for this. Living on the West Coast makes it a lot harder to make it out there though. I wonder if there's a flight to Abu Dhabi that goes through florida.....

Going back the BGW thing, the trenches on CH remind me a lot of bbw. A toned down version might fit perfectly there (maybe without the roll it would have a lower height requirement?).

 

Honestly, I think if you cut out inversions and went with something that hugged the terrain, used the woods to its advantage, it would be more intense than something like Griffon. Low and fast can be pretty wicked...

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I'll be honest, I'm not thrilled with the name either, but it's not as bland as "Drop Tower" at least and the ride really does look to be totally amazing!

My thoughts exactly. At the end of the day, it's all about ride quality, not name quality.

 

And just as an extra, I've been a cheetah fanboy for practically my entire life, and I'm unbelievably stoked to see the new exhibit. Seeing a cheetah running full speed will definitely be a VERY cool experience.

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Three launches on one coaster? My No Limits wet dreams are coming true at last!

 

This sounds like an awesome coaster, and I can't wait to see it in action. It's also nice to see that parks like BGT and companies like Intamin are willing to take the plunge and build coasters that don't necessarily rely on gargantuan hills to attract people. a low and quick coaster can do the job as well, judging from how much the TPR crew seemed to enjoy Rita at Alton Towers.

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And just as an extra, I've been a cheetah fanboy for practically my entire life, and I'm unbelievably stoked to see the new exhibit. Seeing a cheetah running full speed will definitely be a VERY cool experience.

I totally agree! And I want to make sure that isn't overlooked. Just like when Busch put in Manta, I really like that they are making an effort for there to be "something" else to do in the area so if you have to baby swap or you just have members of your party that don't want to ride, there is something for them to do, and that something is at least cool and unique, not just a gift shop or a food location to hang out at by the exit.

 

--Robb

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From Facebook:

 

Busch Gardens Tampa Bay: For all you Fans who are asking about Cheetah Hunt's restraint system, the new ride will incorporate over-the-shoulder restraints similar to those found on many other IntaRide coasters such as Maverick and Kingda Ka. Thanks for asking!

 

Hmm... so it will have OTSRs after all (not that I particularly care either way, as this coaster still looks very awesome )...

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I did just confirm with the park (which may be the reason why the posted to Facebook) and the ride will have the "Intamin Over the Shoulder Restraints."

 

I told the park that the moment I post this there is going to be a discussion of biblical proportions so I did ask them if they knew for certain if they are the harder plastic kind or the softer straps.

 

For those of you who may not know the difference, the harder plastic ones look like this:

 

 

And the softer shoulder restraints look like this:

 

 

For me personally, it doesn't make a difference one way or the other. Some people complained about the harder restraints (then again people will complain if you give them $100) but on i305, I saw no difference between the restraints.

 

I'll post as soon as I hear something from the park.

 

--Robb "TPR has a very good relationship wtih BGT so I'm sure we'll hear something one way or the other!" Alvey

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Fudge. And I was so excited, too. The estimated chances of my enjoying this ride just went from 95% to about 5%.

 

Yes, the restraints are that important to me. Not in some abstract principal way, but literally in the sense of whether I actually find the ride enjoyable or painful.

 

/Maverick sucks. Not trolling. How I feel about it.

//That's really all I have to say. Enjoy your new coaster.

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Fudge. And I was so excited, too. The estimated chances of my enjoying this ride just went from 95% to about 5%.

 

Yes, the restraints are that important to me. Not in some abstract principal way, but literally in the sense of whether I actually find the ride enjoyable or painful.

 

/Maverick sucks. Not trolling. How I feel about it.

//That's really all I have to say. Enjoy your new coaster.

I really wish I could comprehend this, and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way. I just don't think I've ever seen anything in the amusement industry where some people are so black or white on it.

 

I'm sure just as much as you it's hard for you to comprehend my "I don't see a difference" comment, I just don't understand how these retraints are THAT BAD to anyone.

 

I mean, especially compared to some REALLY BAD restraints I've seen in the past - Any Vekoma SLC, the original Premiere OTSR's, a Pinfari looper, etc.

 

I honestly think I've been on nearly every single Intamin coaster that has these restraints - Maverick, Kingda Ka, iSpeed, Storm Runner, Fahrenheit, Kanonen, Speed Monster, Furius Baco, Rita, Desert Race, Zaturn, Stealth, Skycar, etc, and just never had a problem with them.

 

I just wish I could understand what it is that makes people hate them SO MUCH when I feel there are far, FAR worse restraints on rides out there.

 

--Robb "I feel that some people will just hate a ride period, unless it has lap bars..." Alvey

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My question is, where is the actual Ride Logo? I can't find it on anything yet. It does lead me to believe the name was a last minute decision. I suppose we will never know...

My gut feeling is that the decision to go with Cheetah Hunt was more of a last minute decision, but was on the "pre-approved" list of name choices.

 

Not sure why this was the case, but when I received the information in my inbox yesterday, the .doc file I got from the park was labeled "CheeTaka and Reef Announcement Advisory_Reminder.doc" but again, that could have just been a working title.

 

In fact, GOOGLE has many responses referencing that same doc.

 

So the park either pulled a fast one and changed the name because they didn't want people to think they had gotten the "Scoop" or it was something that was decided upon recently and they don't have the title treatment art done, or finally, it's been the name all along and for whatever reason there was no release on the title treatment artwork.

 

I figure one of those three scenarios has to be the case. But you're right...we may never know!

 

--Robb

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This ride looks so cool and it'll be my 500th credit!

 

I'm not too pleased with the name, but I wasn't too pleased with SheiKra at first. It sounded like some drunk guy blurted it out. Then the name grew on me.

 

Then again, a coaster by any other name would be just as kick a$$!

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I'm sure just as much as you it's hard for you to comprehend my "I don't see a difference" comment, I just don't understand how these retraints are THAT BAD to anyone. I mean, especially compared to some REALLY BAD restraints I've seen in the past - Any Vekoma SLC, the original Premiere OTSR's, a Pinfari looper, etc.

 

I assume it's just my body type. I don't particularly like any of the restraints you mentioned above. But the hard Intamin OTSR hurt me worse than any of those. (To be fair, it's probably more the restraint/seat combination. They force me into a weird position.)

 

I do of course realize that I am, personally, a very small demographic. And I have not ridden anything with the new soft Intamin OTSR, so I guess I'll hope for those and hope for the best. (I assume the seats will still try to neuter me, though.)

 

You'll have to pardon my negativity. It wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't been led to believe that the ride would have "lapbars" and gotten all excited about it. And I sort of bought into it because of the whole 48" thing. Should have known better.

 

There are some rides with OTSR that I still like (Arrow suspended coasters, most B&Ms). But, yeah, I'll plead guilty to strongly preferring lapbars.

 

/Will it still have cheetahs, or will it turn out to be house cats?

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Loos like fun, having visited Busch Tampa for the first time just last week (Kumba and Montu - unbelievable), this appears to be a very solid addition.

 

I have to admit my first impression of a name like "Cheetah Hunt" is that an endangered animal is being hunted and then after some thought I would start thinking that maybe the Cheetah's are doing the hunting. I personally prefer Cheetaka but it's all academic as long as the coaster is good, call it Rhino Poachers or Baby Seal Slaughter or whatever, just make the coaster good.

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Listen to that original 6+ minute video, every time they mention Cheetah Hunt, you can tell the audio has been cut. You never actually see anyone say it. Just screams of last minute change. Disappointed about the lap bar thing, how could they mess that up? Oh well, hopefully we get some vertical construction now.

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