Jump to content
  TPR Home | Parks | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube | Instagram 

Busch Gardens Tampa Bay (BGT Discussion Thread)

P. 358: Two new slides & more announced for Adventure Island!

Recommended Posts

^Maybe... I've got a feeling the three projects are wildfire, this (BGT installation), and finally, a six flags park, either SFSTL with the Boss, or La Ronde with Le Monstre.

Didn't a higher up for Six Flags say Boss wasn't getting iron horsed?

 

Yes, the park President. Dave Roehmer (spelling).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Okay, so we're thinking of going to the park next month and have a ride-rehab question. This won't impact whether or not we go but now I'm just flat out confused.

 

On the website if you go to "Park info" and then "Park Hours, Show Times & Ride Updates" it takes you here.

 

This lists the upcoming rehabs as...

 

Count's Rally: Jan. 5 - 9

Elmo's Safari-Go-Round: Jan. 12 - 16

Phoenix: Jan. 21 - Feb 6

Congo River Rapids: Feb 9 - 27

Snuffy's Romp: Mar. 2 - 6

 

Then directly under that it says "View the complete ride attractions maintenance schedule" which takes you here where it says something completely different...

 

Count's Rally: January 5 - 9 (same)

Flume: January 5 - February 27 (lol where did this come from?)

Elmo's Safari-Go-Round: January 12- 16(same)

Phoenix: January 26 - February 13(this starts and ends a week later than it said 2 seconds ago)

Wild Surge : February 16 - 27 (lol where did this come from?)

Tidal Wave: February 28 -May 1 (lol where did this come from?)

Snuffy's Romp: March 2 - 6 (same)

 

If the argument is that it's the complete list and that's why things were omitted then fine but the Phoenix thing is just stupid... again the only ride out of any of these that I care about is the Flume and it's not like that's a deal-breaker... but does anyone know why the website says 2 different things.

 

Also on the second page it says "Stanleyville Falls" was closed from November 3 - 21 and "Flume" is closed January 5 - February 27. The website says the ride's name is "Stanley Falls" and they don't have a ride called "Flume". I know this isn't that important but this website is a mess. lol

 

For the record Screamscape says this which is the second list without the flume so I guess they find that list more accurate?

 

Ride Rehabs - The following information is not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.

Count’s Rally - Jan. 5 through Jan 9, 2015

Elmo’s Safari-Go-Round - Jan 12 through Jan 16

Phoenix - Jan. 26 through Feb. 13

Wild Surge - Feb 16 through Feb 27

Tidal Wave - Feb. 18 through May 1

Snuffy’s Romp - Mar 2 through Mar 6

 

Can anyone shed some light on which list is actually correct? I would assume it would be the official park site and not Screamscape but the official park site is all over the place. Like I said we're going anyway but for future reference I'd like to know which list to look at. Thanks in advance!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A question:

How long are the queues at BGT in summer in mid July? And do you have any tips, which day or which ride first?

 

Go on a day that's either threatening rain, is raining, or has just had a storm pass through. People clear out in the rain. I've been three times in July and all three times it was less crowded than the times I have been in the dry month of January.

 

If you can't go on a day like this, just get there early and ride Cheetah Hunt first. Chances are it will rain at some point during the day even if its just a small passing storm so wait it out until then and enjoy a cleared-out park afterwards.

^When I go, I head over to Cheetah Hunt first, then Montu, and then head up the Nairobi area towards Pantopia. I'd ride Falcon's Fury then head to Kumba followed by Sheikra. Crowds shouldn't be too bad if you are there before the park opens.

Ok, thanks. I hope we get a rainy day

Link to comment
Share on other sites

A question:

How long are the queues at BGT in summer in mid July? And do you have any tips, which day or which ride first?

 

Go on a day that's either threatening rain, is raining, or has just had a storm pass through. People clear out in the rain. I've been three times in July and all three times it was less crowded than the times I have been in the dry month of January.

 

If you can't go on a day like this, just get there early and ride Cheetah Hunt first. Chances are it will rain at some point during the day even if its just a small passing storm so wait it out until then and enjoy a cleared-out park afterwards.

^When I go, I head over to Cheetah Hunt first, then Montu, and then head up the Nairobi area towards Pantopia. I'd ride Falcon's Fury then head to Kumba followed by Sheikra. Crowds shouldn't be too bad if you are there before the park opens.

Ok, thanks. I hope we get a rainy day

 

If all else fails, get Quick Queue Unlimited. It drops everything to a station wait or better. Cheetah Hunt is still 10-25 mins, depending on whether you're doing the front row and how full the station is, but that's infinitely better than 60-90+. Montu is 1-2 trains at worst except for the front and sometimes the back. SheiKra is 1-2 trains. Kumba is 1-3 trains except for the front. Scorpion is maybe 1 train. Sand Serpent is <5min. Flume is ~5min. Falcon's Fury is a 1-3 drop wait (the Sunday after Christmas I was on every other drop for a while). That day I managed a total of 40 rides on the day thanks to QQU.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2. Florida heat, humidity, and torrential rain wreaks havoc on wooden coasters. In a more temperate climate where I work, wooden coaster engineers still trace most re-tracking needs to the effects of weather. Fast changes in weather are not nice to wooden coasters as it expedites wood rot. I'm not saying Gwazi was dangerously rotting away, but there might have not been enough resources diverted its way to stay ahead of the wear and tear brought on by weather.

 

The weather didn't adversely affect the Dania Beach Hurricane

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Busch Gardens is my home park and was part of my adolescence. Gwazi used to be my favorite ride before Sheikra, but a recent ride on it made me completely understand why it is being shut down. It is so rough it simply isn't fun at all anymore, and while lesser parks may keep it around just to be able to advertise another attraction, Busch Gardens has always been more about quality than quantity.

 

I rode Cheetah Hunt for the first time on this trip, and I was hoping it would replace what a wooden coaster can provide by giving airtime and speed. Instead it was rather forceless and while it was a good ride, it was very very far from the great ride something of its size could be. I've never been a fan of Intamin's low capacity rides either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

How anyone could be disappointed in Cheetah Hunt is beyond me. In a park with Kumba and Montu did Cheetah Hunt really need to be Maverick-level intense? I mean, that's what people who call it forceless must have been expecting because when judging it on its own merits it actually has quite a few good forces and even airtime. Forceless or not, it's long, has three launches, a great scenic course, and most of all it's fun. Sorry, I just can't see any merit in complaints about Cheetah Hunt.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

How anyone could be disappointed in Cheetah Hunt is beyond me. In a park with Kumba and Montu did Cheetah Hunt really need to be Maverick-level intense? I mean, that's what people who call it forceless must have been expecting because when judging it on its own merits it actually has quite a few good forces and even airtime. Forceless or not, it's long, has three launches, a great scenic course, and most of all it's fun. Sorry, I just can't see any merit in complaints about Cheetah Hunt.

 

This.

 

Cheetah Hunt fits perfectly in the coaster line-up at BGT in my opinion. With arguably the best trio of B&Ms at any park, a less intense family Intamin launched coaster seems perfect. Not to mention, they just received a super awesome first-of-its-kind drop tower.

 

Actually, after thinking about it, BGT has got to have one of the best collections of rides in the U.S.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

How anyone could be disappointed in Cheetah Hunt is beyond me. In a park with Kumba and Montu did Cheetah Hunt really need to be Maverick-level intense? I mean, that's what people who call it forceless must have been expecting because when judging it on its own merits it actually has quite a few good forces and even airtime. Forceless or not, it's long, has three launches, a great scenic course, and most of all it's fun. Sorry, I just can't see any merit in complaints about Cheetah Hunt.

 

I'm quite prone to nausea so I'm not crazy about positive G's, so I'm not bemoaning them not being part of Cheetah. It's more that there is very little airtime, lots of straight track instead of hills, and for all the speed that it gets through three launches, it does very little to every highlight that speed. Speed itself on a rollercoaster is not thrilling, its the sensation of speed. I anticipated a ride of Cheetah Hunt's speed and length having some significant airtime hills, but there was simply very little even vertical action.

 

Cheetah Hunt is a good ride and it does a good job of filling a demographic in a park that caters to families. I will certainly ride it when I'm at the park, which will be often since my wife and I have passes, but it isn't close to being a top 10 coaster.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Cheetah Hunt is a really good ride, but it just doesn't have enough intensity or thrill to push it into a status of an excellent or great ride. With capacity limitations creating one of the longer waits in the park, the end result just doesn't seem to justify a significant wait when you can ride much better coasters like Kumba, Montu, and Sheikra with substantially less waiting. From the underwhelming first launch to the shell-of-a-Maverick s-turn section, Cheetah Hunt just lacks that extra bit of intensity to push it over the top.

 

By no means a bad ride as it is incredibly fun and immensely popular with the GP, but Cheetah Hunt just didn't measure up to expectations. I do not think there is a lot of "hate" for it, but simply many enthusiasts expected a little more intensity.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just don't understand why super intensity=excellent/great ride. It doesn't rip your face off but that doesn't change the fact that it has a unique (and long!!) layout, a very scenic course and a couple of unique features.

 

Also, I don't understand what straightaway sections are being referred to…I only remember the launch tracks being straight. The rest of the layout has several hills and S-curves.

Edited by OrlandoGuy
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Everyone always compares Cheetah Hunt to Maverick and from an enthusiast perspective I understand why as it's the same sort of system and trains but you have to remember that Busch was looking for a Python replacement (48" ride) and that's exactly what Intamin gave them. I talked to Sandor at IAAPA about this very same conversation how people always complain about Cheetah Hunt being too tame and he supports my point saying that it's exactly what Busch Gardens wanted. They didn't want a crazy insane 54" Maverick clone.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think Cheetah Hunt is pretty damn good--one of the best "family" coasters outside of Disney. It has a number of unique features, and I particularly like the "twisty" bit through the old Rhino Rally river section.

 

Never understood why so many enthusiasts complain about it; of course, complaining is what many coaster enthusiasts do best.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Never understood why so many enthusiasts complain about it; of course, complaining is what many coaster enthusiasts do best.

 

Agreed!

 

It's fun and smooth. Not every coaster has to be the fastest or have all sorts of inversions to be a good coaster but that is what I feel any enthusiasts want. I loved cheetah hunt. Was it my favorite coaster ever? no, but it was fun.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Put me in the camp of those who really like Cheetah Hunt. Yes, their trio of B&M's are better coasters, but I have come to really appriciate the lesser intense coasters that are just pure fun. Also my tolerance for re-riding intense coasters has been somewhat reduced over the last few years, and then coasters like Cheetah Hunt are perfect. I can understand if it was marketed as the star coaster of the park, but it's not and with the other coasters that BGT have it helps balance the offerings of the park.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I love Cheetah Hunt just for its all out fun. I took my parents to BGT for the Christmas buffet at Crown Colony , (which was fantastic for only 16 bucks btw. )But the real story here is that right afterwards we went to Cheetah Hunt. My father is 81 and mom, well, you dont ask a lady her age, absolutely loved it. It has all the right elements for just a fun and very re-rideable coaster. My partner and I wanted to do the drop tower but the line was too long and Mom said no way.so we skipped it. But to my surprise Mom and Dad went back 2 days later just to ride the drop tower but by the time they got there it was down for the day. So they just did Cheetah again . It goes to show, one is never too old and a fun ride is just fun.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It isn't even "for what it is supposed to be" thing. It is, as close in my mind as exists, to an objectively good ride. If you don't enjoy barreling through the canyon portion at high speed, swinging through those banked curves, what are you doing continuing to pour money down the black hole of theme parks? If this is directed to you and you find that insulting, it only is if you want it to be. But do something else. Ski. Whitewater rafting. Scuba. Get a old Mazda Miata and drive recklessly at a club track. Something with a higher adrenaline threshold than roller coasters, because obviously this isn't for you any more.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This just in from Busch Gardens Tampa...

 

LAST CHANCE TO RIDE GWAZI

 

Tampa, Fla. (Jan. 9, 2015) – February 1 is the last day for thrill seekers to ride Gwazi® at Busch Gardens® Tampa as the park prepares to permanently close the wooden rollercoaster.

 

Gwazi opened in 1999 as Florida’s first dueling wooden rollercoaster, providing guests with thrilling and memorable experiences for more than 15 years.

 

“No decisions have been made about what lies ahead for Gwazi or for the future plans of that area of Busch Gardens,” said Park President Jim Dean. “But, we are always looking for ways to enhance guests’ experiences, so stay tuned for more news.”

 

Plus, be the first to know about future announcements by following the park’s blog at BuschGardensTampaBlog.com, or “Like” the Busch Gardens Facebook page and follow @buschgardens on Twitter and Instagram.

image.jpg.3c0bb0f6c8bc2e46162b3ead961cdda7.jpg

image.jpg.9eb799c3a8c52d02fd6de5c96c445859.jpg

Edited by jedimaster1227
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use https://themeparkreview.com/forum/topic/116-terms-of-service-please-read/