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p. 348 - Iron Gwazi POV!

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Isn't it always going to fall roughly the same acceleration (9.8 m/sec^2 or 32 ft/sec^2)? At least until it hits the brakes?

 

Edit: fixed m/sec to m/sec^2.

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This is magnificent. I'm hoping its not like match towers and breaks 2/3 of the way up the tower. What if they give you a choice of having some seats stay normal and some 90*. I'm almost certain that most of the GP will see this and go 'HELL NO!' But that won't stop me from rideing!

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So from my quick timing.

 

Assuming breaking begins at the yellow section, drop time is ~3 seconds.

 

V=at or v=(9.81m/s/s)(3 seconds) gives you a speed of 29.43 m/s or 65.83mph.

 

Then a conservative estimate would be about 60mph when you hit the brakes.

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So from my quick timing.

 

Assuming breaking begins at the yellow section, drop time is ~3 seconds.

 

V=at or v=(9.81m/s/s)(3 seconds) gives you a speed of 29.43 m/s or 65.83mph.

 

Then a conservative estimate would be about 60mph when you hit the brakes.

 

Compared to an ARM/Larson tower which reaches 47mph or Intamin's Giant Drop at almost 80pmh (according to their site).

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It's all just a function of height. The 80+ mph Intamin free falls are all in the ~400ft range. This is only a 310'ft drop. That being said it likely will have a higher drag coefficient doe to ride carriage design associated with this type. When KD's has. A 272 ft drop and hits 72mph.

 

And I was correct in my math, the published top speed of FF is 60mph.

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^Well the car seems pretty heavy, and the heavier it is the less significant the drag will be, which means acceleration closer to the 9.8 m/s^2

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It looks really clear to me that it stops accelerating well above the yellow portion. It doesn't necessarily slow down, but it isn't speeding up, either. I would assume that's where we'll see it flip back to horizontal, in time for the full brakes to start when the yellow portion is hit.

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It looks really clear to me that it stops accelerating well above the yellow portion. It doesn't necessarily slow down, but it isn't speeding up, either. I would assume that's where we'll see it flip back to horizontal, in time for the full brakes to start when the yellow portion is hit.

Well what matters here is, like you said, where it stops accelerating because that's where the freefall feeling ends (or when the acceleration goes well below 9.8). It looks like it will deliver a nice punch and it will be for sure intimidating facing down, but it just doesn't seem like it will be actual freefall for a long time. I guess we'll just have to wait for someone to ride it.

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It looks really clear to me that it stops accelerating well above the yellow portion. It doesn't necessarily slow down, but it isn't speeding up, either. I would assume that's where we'll see it flip back to horizontal, in time for the full brakes to start when the yellow portion is hit.

The acceleration due to gravity means absolutely diddly squat when the drop is controlled, as Falcon's Fury appears to be.

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It looks like it will deliver a nice punch and it will be for sure intimidating facing down, but it just doesn't seem like it will be actual freefall for a long time. I guess we'll just have to wait for someone to ride it.

 

I think that even if it's not as crazy as their other towers in terms of the time you're actually dropping, I think the fact that you're facing the ground will more than make up for it (as you pointed out). Plus it's still testing so it may be operating much differently on opening day.

 

Compared to an ARM/Larson tower which reaches 47mph or Intamin's Giant Drop at almost 80pmh (according to their site).

 

ARM/Larson towers defy the laws of physics.

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ARM/Larson towers defy the laws of physics.

God I have to go on one of those soon! Are they that awesome?

 

Of all the drop towers I've been on (Lex Luthor, Mach Tower, the Gyro Drops at KD and KI, the 2nd gens at SFA and Carowinds, the 1st gens at SFMM, SFWOA, Dorney and CP, a ton of S&S towers and a ton more that I'm forgetting) that little drop tower at Knoebels puts them all to shame. None of them are even close.

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^Agreed. StratosFear @ Knoebels is an ARM 148' model. S&S towers don't do it for me. Intamin 1st and 2nd generation are great but the most airtime I've experienced is on ARM and Moser drop towers.

 

ARM 105' portable model.

 

Moser Mega Drop. This is what the OC fair has here In Southern California has I believe. Joey can correct me if I'm wrong as he's the fair ride expert around here.

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I came here to comment on the test video that was shared.

 

I... don't know what to say. It looks like there is a free fall for about 1.5 seconds, maybe covering 100 feet, then a 100 foot speed stabilization phase, a 50 foot break run, and then the car coasts down another 50 feet before coming to a halt. Compare this to Giant drop at Great America, and the second generation intamins free falls, which falls for 3-4 seconds at free fall and decelerates right into the station, only coasting about 10 feet to its final resting place. It seems like this thing is just 100 feet taller but not any faster or longer. I understand there are limitations because of the vertical drop and this is just a test run that could be very different from the final product, but still.

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It looks really clear to me that it stops accelerating well above the yellow portion. It doesn't necessarily slow down, but it isn't speeding up, either. I would assume that's where we'll see it flip back to horizontal, in time for the full brakes to start when the yellow portion is hit.

 

The acceleration due to gravity means absolutely diddly squat when the drop is controlled, as Falcon's Fury appears to be.

 

Right, and what I mean is that once you're no longer accelerating either with gravity or faster than it (i.e. Tower of Terror), the drop itself is worthless. It'll be interesting to be flipping forward and whatnot during that time, but as far as a freefall goes, you're only going to get that for the first third of the way down - though I'm definitely not knocking it, because the thrill factor of falling face-first might very well be enough to make this the best tower out there.

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I have faith this ride will deliver. Busch Gardens has had a great track record for delivering the goods. Gwazi may be the only major ride there that has been a bust for them. I think the layout might have been too ambitious causing the track issues.

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I'm totally not going to speculate and instead wait for the information that the park promised.

Although.....

I wonder if it has anything to do with the ride or instead the Pantopia area.

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