pgathriller Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Check out these cool pics that were emailed to me. That is a huge motor! Never seen anything like that being so big. I didn't realize Kingda Ka needed this massive engine to launch you. Does Top Thrill Dragster have one of these? * I had the wrong link before. Here is the new link. Sorry. http://themeparks.about.com/od/photoandvideogallery/ss/KingdaHydraulic.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maliboomer Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Seen before.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllisonY2K Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 looks almost as big as the room Hulk has for it's launched lift hill motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishyBrewer Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I have a motor like that on my Harley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazan Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 im still confused how it works. does anyone have an animation or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterlicious Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 dragsters looks the same right?... Ive seen into the engine room before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stew560 Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Good synopsis of the hydraulic launch on PointBuzz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallean Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 For those interested in technical details: An article from Kissling & Co. AG, Zürich, Switzerland, the manufacturer of the drive gear (page 4 of this PDF file, the document is also available in German and French): www.kissgear.ch/fileadmin/user_upload/Kissling_Firmenzeitung_80jahre_E.pdf There are also several technical articles in U.S. engineering magazines. Technically there aren't that many options for high power launching systems. Electrically powered linear drives draw a lot of peak power (although generators with very large flywheels would be possible to store most ot the required launching energy), require complex drive power electronics and fast real-time digital regulation systems but are mechanically very simple. From an engineering POV I'd tend to consider the hydraulic launching solution as reliable but the whole drum and cable system is challenging, especially as it's not usual tu use cables at such high speeds. Edit: Those interested in eddy-current brakes and linear drives for roller coasters can visit the website of Intrasys GmbH (mostly in German): www.intrasys-gmbh.com A 17-pages article about linear drives for roller coasters can be found here (in English): www.intrasys-gmbh.com/at/LSM_0205.pdf BTW the patent # indicated in some article linked above is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBannedKid Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Looks like PointBuzz just copy and paste the patent for the hydraulic launch and added simpler terms...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verticalzero Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 All non-air powered "Rocket" coasters have these big motor's, "Stealth", Rita" and TTD etc, of course the smaller ones have 1/2 the size of KK and TTD. A "Glass or Perspec" shed should be built so everyone can see the motor's. "Rita" has 1 motor, KK uses 2 Motor's back-to-back. The fins pop up when the cars goes over them so the train does not speed back into the station. aka "roll-back" I wonder how fast KK and TTD can really go if the motor's are turned up to "full speed". Superman at 6FMM uses magnets to move the train down the track, the cars have a + magnet and the fin's are - magnets. This is what pushes the train forward and the park's electric doubles when the cars are braked. Hope I'm right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stricklandCC Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 AllisonY2K wrote "looks almost as big as the room Hulk has for it's launched lift hill motors" Actually, there is no "motor room" for HULK. Each [small] motor is directly connected to the actual wheel(s)\(tires) that propell HULK up its launched lift. Each wheel is individually powered my its dedicated motor, located JUST underneath of the actual tire. Dan "U.S.O. should have chosen lockheed-martin to develop the launch system for hulk" Strickland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougstanton Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 If Kingda Ka had a motor room made out of glass, it would just be like those doughnut stores. You would always be watching people working on the broken motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verticalzero Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 As well as the building being made of mega thick glass / perspec's, you could backlight or under-light some of the parts to a great effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 ^ add some neon, and while we're at it, how about a couple nitrious tanks for some extra boost. -James Dillaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxman47 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 here's another pic, really shows you how big it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas2 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I remember seeing it on NGC's Megastructures and thinking 'man that's huge!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyrider06 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 That is one big motor, very cool pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayjay719 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Thats one big freaking motor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBannedKid Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Actually, thats one big hydraulic motor system. The motors themselves aren't extremely large. The hydraulic launch consists of many hydraulic motors that work together at one motor. It looks to be about 17-18 motors on each side of the spool...meaning there are around 35 motors running the launch.[/u] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayjay719 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 It's still freaking huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArchfiend Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 I wonder what it sounds like in that room when that puppy launches. I imagine it sounds like a really big toilet flushing. Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxman47 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 ^ It actually doesn't get much louder when the coaster launches, but it is loud basically all the time. The motors run in between launches to compress the nitrogen-filled accumulator tanks, and when it launches, the nitrogen is released and forces hydraulic fluid out to turn the huge cable spool. Check out one of the TPR video's for Stealth, they have a shot of the motor room during a launch! Seems to sound just like it does from the outside, only much cooler I would assume! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastermaster07 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 That really is a big motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGiles Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 No wonder these rocket coasters break down the whole time; they're a complicated mess! Why is this launch system so complicated? I remember the simple launch mechanism with a weight falling down a tower (like Thunder Looper at Alton Towers). You would think that coaster technology would get simplified, not more complex with time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBannedKid Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Its actually not as complicated as it looks. Each motor has its own system, and there are 30-40 motors so there are a lot of random systems all over the place to run each one. The principle behind running one motor is very simple, but when you make that one motor into 30+, then you have what looks like a mess on your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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